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Posted by: Flyinghotpocket.5201

Flyinghotpocket.5201

Me and a group of friends started up guild wars all together. we explored and had a very good time together in the early noob stages. A few other friends from work we found out also played guildwars and told us how amazing and fun dungeons are. We of course wanted to try it all, dungeons, pvp, wvw, exploration, story.

We played a few dungeons together in our group, and had a good time even though we didnt have the equipment to complete the dungeon we set out to get better gear for them. As time went on, we werent all able to play on at the same time, and we had to fill empty slots in our 5 man dungeon stack with LFG people.

This is where our experience started to go downhill. We first encountered troll players who would refuse to help clear the dungeons and just run past enemies. These extra players would often start a vote kick, in an attempt to remove one of us from the party and fail.

At a particular point when we needed 3 other people to fill our slots for running a dungeon we put out a LFG saying ‘full clear dungeon, no speed running’ or something to that effect. We started clearing the dungeon and soon enough our public players got impatient and started to run to the next sections leaving 2 of us to fight off the whole dungeon.

After they waited a prompt 4 minutes for us to clear the next section, (we were about half way through this dungeon) We proceeded to fight one of the champion bosses in order to advance to the next section. All was going well, the boss was dying team work was there.

Right as the boss was dipping into probably less than 10% health, these 3 pubs initiated a vote kick, on both me and my friend and succeed. We both sat on teamspeak completely kittened off. We created our own group, got halfway through it, and kicked because of impatience people right before we all took down a boss. We didnt get a single piece of loot that we literally worked for. It took us an hour to get to this half way point in one of the dungeons.

Me and my friends we all work for a living and dont have the time to neckbeard for suits of armor, we just want to run dungeons in the way we DEEM fun and to us that was running it like a normal player vs computer. No running through sections (we view that is cheating)

After a long few months haitus from those of us that were involved in being kicked from our OWN PARTY. We have finally came back to guildwars looking for people who wanna do what we wanna do. In order to not completely ruin the noobs experience in this game by a few TROLLS i suggest that something be done about this. You shouldnt be able to be kicked from your own party that you create. Our intentions were clear in LFG.

I’m pretty sure no action was taken on these trolls. my faith in the guildwars 2 punishment system is quiet lacking especially after that.

My thing here is don’t let an incredibly negative experience like this happen to your new players EVER. Let the speed runners run the dungeons by running through the whole thing in their own search section. let traditional dungeon runners have their piece.

I wont be responding to any posts from this thread, unless its to a dev of the game. and my 10+ years of gaming experience tells me you wont be responding to this. I hope you get this story arenanet, and share it with your coworkers about how incredible negative this kind of game play is to some of us. If you a player and you wanna run dungeons the way we do, feel free to shoot me a mail in game.

And it looks like for some reason hiatus work is censored idk why its not even profanity. so some of this text is a bit garbled or intentionally misspelled.

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Posted by: DonQuack.9025

DonQuack.9025

I wont be responding to any posts from this thread, unless its to a dev of the game. and my 10+ years of gaming experience tells me you wont be responding to this. I

Sooo then why ma…..? Actually dont worry.

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Posted by: bladex.9502

bladex.9502

Little word of advice :
If you want a dev to read your post, don’t post it in the dungeon subforum.
They don’t even know this place exists

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Thing is, they aren’t trolls. Those are just regular PUGs. There was nothing unusual about your experience in this game.

These dungeons are legacy farming content. No one runs dungeons for fun anymore — with one minor exception, there have been no new themed dungeons added since launch.

The way dungeons are run today are to skip all mobs/bosses possible and DPS bosses down as quickly as possible, and people expect things to go quickly. If they don’t, they’ll start kicking you.

This used to just be confined to speedclear groups (which is fine, if you join a speedclear group and can’t keep up, you should be kicked, lol), but it’s disheartening to hear that this is happening in “full clear” advertised groups. Sorry you had that experience, but I do have a couple recommendation — maybe try to get a full group of friends together or join a laid-back guild that runs dungeons.

Other than that, this isn’t join to change. The PUG environment in this game is a cesspool more often than not. You can find gems in the rough, but there’s a lot of crap to sift through.

I like your suggestion for a separate LFG section for speed groups. We’ve asked for a hard-mode / normal-mode system to help keep these player groups separated, but one of the few replies we’ve gotten from ArenaNet concerning dungeons is that hard-mode will never happen. I can dig up the link if you’re interested — they also said they don’t plan to make more. Quite an informative thread….

(edited by dlonie.6547)

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

If dungeons are what you’re primarily interested in when it comes to GW2, I highly recommend you either:

  • play dungeons as a duo/trio team as it’s much more fun than 5-manning them anyway… you will get a lot of fun out of this, or
  • quit the game as the game mode is pretty much abandonware at this point, with the only changes being side effects of bugs created when Anet works on other parts of the game.

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Posted by: Satenia.9025

Satenia.9025

At a particular point when we needed 3 other people to fill our slots for running a dungeon we put out a LFG saying ‘full clear dungeon, no speed running’ or something to that effect. We started clearing the dungeon and soon enough our public players got impatient and started to run to the next sections leaving 2 of us to fight off the whole dungeon.

First of all, it is important to understand that skipping mobs and speed-running are not the same. Speed-running does include skipping mobs, but it goes far beyond that, for example by including build/class compositions and generally minimizing time as much as possible.

Skipping mobs on the other hand is simply the community’s reaction to unrewarding (trash) mobs found in dungeons. Killing them is not required for path completion and they drop nothing worth the extra time investment. Add to this the fact that dungeon content has remained largely stale since launch. As such, “skipping” is pretty much an established standard approach you will find even in the most average of PUG’s.

LFG-advertisement or not, it will be quite difficult to get random players to kill ALL mobs. I think you would have to explain this explicitly at the beginning of the run and will have to expect leavers over it.

As a final note: You mentioned the limited time available to you and your friends. Personally, I believe that once you ran the dungeons a few times and are done looking at the scenery, you will come to understand the benefits of minimizing completion times. Till then, good luck with finding like-minded players, you’ll need it.

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Posted by: Veydar.5017

Veydar.5017

… the time to neckbeard for suits of armor…

Today I learned a new verb: “to neckbeard for something”
This is a good day.

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Posted by: doddbox.8153

doddbox.8153

… the time to neckbeard for suits of armor…

Today I learned a new verb: “to neckbeard for something”
This is a good day.

I totally tumblr-feminist this post

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

This is sad. Personnally, I wouldn’t join your group because that’s not what I want when i go into a dungeon. But this is freaking stupid when people join a LFG and don’t read or ignore them or something like that. Meta group have the same problem. When we ask for something specific, we rarely get it. But at least we don’t get kicked out.

People are asking for a party leader system for a very long time. We are still waiting.

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Posted by: stachekiller.2591

stachekiller.2591

The good news is that if you can get just two other friends with you then you should be protected from getting kicked in the majority required kick system now. The one recommendation I would make as well is when people join to verify that they read the LFG completely (i.e. say something to the effect of “we will be killing everything in here and it may take a while. Are you sure you are up for that?”).

In general the LFG is a complete crap shoot which is why you see things like “ping gear” as people are doing whatever they can to filter in/out people for their groups. Don’t give up on the game yet, it is fun and while the dungeons are old and abandoned by devs there is still a lot of fun to be had in them.

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Posted by: WUSSUPHATERZ.9512

WUSSUPHATERZ.9512

Me and a group of friends started up guild wars all together. we explored and had a very good time together in the early noob stages. A few other friends from work we found out also played guildwars and told us how amazing and fun dungeons are. We of course wanted to try it all, dungeons, pvp, wvw, exploration, story.

We played a few dungeons together in our group, and had a good time even though we didnt have the equipment to complete the dungeon we set out to get better gear for them. As time went on, we werent all able to play on at the same time, and we had to fill empty slots in our 5 man dungeon stack with LFG people.

This is where our experience started to go downhill. We first encountered troll players who would refuse to help clear the dungeons and just run past enemies. These extra players would often start a vote kick, in an attempt to remove one of us from the party and fail.

At a particular point when we needed 3 other people to fill our slots for running a dungeon we put out a LFG saying ‘full clear dungeon, no speed running’ or something to that effect. We started clearing the dungeon and soon enough our public players got impatient and started to run to the next sections leaving 2 of us to fight off the whole dungeon.

After they waited a prompt 4 minutes for us to clear the next section, (we were about half way through this dungeon) We proceeded to fight one of the champion bosses in order to advance to the next section. All was going well, the boss was dying team work was there.

Right as the boss was dipping into probably less than 10% health, these 3 pubs initiated a vote kick, on both me and my friend and succeed. We both sat on teamspeak completely kittened off. We created our own group, got halfway through it, and kicked because of impatience people right before we all took down a boss. We didnt get a single piece of loot that we literally worked for. It took us an hour to get to this half way point in one of the dungeons.

Me and my friends we all work for a living and dont have the time to neckbeard for suits of armor, we just want to run dungeons in the way we DEEM fun and to us that was running it like a normal player vs computer. No running through sections (we view that is cheating)

After a long few months haitus from those of us that were involved in being kicked from our OWN PARTY. We have finally came back to guildwars looking for people who wanna do what we wanna do. In order to not completely ruin the noobs experience in this game by a few TROLLS i suggest that something be done about this. You shouldnt be able to be kicked from your own party that you create. Our intentions were clear in LFG.

I’m pretty sure no action was taken on these trolls. my faith in the guildwars 2 punishment system is quiet lacking especially after that.

My thing here is don’t let an incredibly negative experience like this happen to your new players EVER. Let the speed runners run the dungeons by running through the whole thing in their own search section. let traditional dungeon runners have their piece.

I wont be responding to any posts from this thread, unless its to a dev of the game. and my 10+ years of gaming experience tells me you wont be responding to this. I hope you get this story arenanet, and share it with your coworkers about how incredible negative this kind of game play is to some of us. If you a player and you wanna run dungeons the way we do, feel free to shoot me a mail in game.

And it looks like for some reason hiatus work is censored idk why its not even profanity. so some of this text is a bit garbled or intentionally misspelled.

why brain damage?

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

seriously guys?

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

pdavis.8031

  1. reason this thread won’t get a dev response:

Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.

thanks for playing!

“You know what the chain of command is?
It’s the chain I beat you with until you
recognize my command!”

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

  1. reason this thread won’t get a dev response:

Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.

LOL yeah.

That’s why they won’t reply.

xD

seriously guys?

Eh, after reading the wall of text, this isn’t really a bingo post in my opinion. OP had a kittenty experience that seems to be becoming fairly commonplace. They did everything right by our standards — they made their own group, clearly advertised what they wanted, but had a series of dongs join that didn’t read the description and tried to force their playstyle on a differently-advertised group.

We can relate to a lot of that, methinks.

Also, as Veydar pointed out, the verb ‘to neckbeard’ is pretty kittenin’ great. OP is alright in my book

(edited by dlonie.6547)

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Posted by: savacli.8172

savacli.8172

Claims to have 10+ years of gaming experience
Places thread in worst possible area to get attention.

+1 on Neckbearding for verb of the day

(edited by savacli.8172)

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

NikeEU.7690

10 years gaming experience.

Apparently never encountered gamers before.

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Posted by: thrag.9740

thrag.9740

seriously guys?

Did someone make an actual bingo sheet? Or are we all pretending to have bingo sheets. Because I am up for this if its real.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

seriously guys?

Did someone make an actual bingo sheet? Or are we all pretending to have bingo sheets. Because I am up for this if its real.

We got sheets

Attachments:

“We have now left Reason and Sanity Junction. Next stop, Looneyville.”

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

EcoRI.9273

wow reading is an exploit must be hard to get a bingo on.

http://www.twitch.tv/eco_r_i
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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

seriously guys?

Did someone make an actual bingo sheet? Or are we all pretending to have bingo sheets. Because I am up for this if its real.

There is an actual bingo sheet, I don’t have it though.

//Well kitten me I’m super late.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

That sheet needs to be updated. Raise condi cap isnt relevant anymore. Also fgs is on there.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

That sheet needs to be updated. Raise condi cap isnt relevant anymore. Also fgs is on there.

Yeah, I don’t even remember who made that one.

“We have now left Reason and Sanity Junction. Next stop, Looneyville.”

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Posted by: Tarasicodissa.7084

Tarasicodissa.7084

That sheet needs to be updated. Raise condi cap isnt relevant anymore. Also fgs is on there.

Exactly what I was about to point out. Also they’ve added build diversity with healer revenant. winks

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

That sheet needs to be updated. Raise condi cap isnt relevant anymore. Also fgs is on there.

Yeah, I don’t even remember who made that one.

Wasn’t it Lucas who used to make those? They went through a few iterations.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

My bingo sheets

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

I like the remove stacking case. Do people complain about that a bit

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Never saw the PUG bingo before. Good stuff

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Posted by: SlyDevil.3952

SlyDevil.3952

Can someone give me a description of neckbearding, or like, multiple examples?

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

Can someone give me a description of neckbearding, or like, multiple examples?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Neckbearding

I kinda like the 2nd definition better than the first.

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Posted by: Steve.4218

Steve.4218

<<I’m pretty sure no action was taken on these trolls. my faith in the guildwars 2 punishment system is quiet lacking especially after that.>>

Well did you report the trolls ? There is a report section called “LFG abuse” and this would seem to fit. No cries, no justice.