Ascalonian Catacombs difficulty

Ascalonian Catacombs difficulty

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Posted by: Getefix.9150

Getefix.9150

this may sound like one of the countless ‘[enter dungeon here] is too hard’ posts but as a group of level 80s, me and some friends decided to do path 1 of the ascalon catacombs since we hadnt tried it in a while (from before the changes were done to it) and we found it REALLY hard and only just made it after about 5 tries at the final boss

Ascalon catacombs is the lowest level dungeon and in my point of view, it should be a bit easier to help new players with understanding how dungeon raids work etc, if I was a new player, just hit 35 (recommended for the catacombs) and decided to get a group of level 35 friends together to try it, I don’t think I could have completed it

and its strange because some higher level dungeons (eg honor of the waves, a level 80 in explorable) is MUCH easier to complete

if its over-farming that you’re worried about, please reduce the reward at the end and not increase the diffculty

[Rant over]

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Posted by: SkyChef.5432

SkyChef.5432

I’ve ran it w/ my family guild members couple days ago and they are as newbie as they can be in GW2. 2 of them are under 600s AP, level 60s and 40s, brand new players, squishy classes and hard to play as a newbie: thief & ele. The other 2s haven’t seen any dungeon before. Worst one of them is a wrong bow ranger. I told her to go to practice sword/war horns/dagger and change to those weapons.Traits & skills to them are as foreign as Mars to Earth.
But there is a key of difference from this group and many struggling groups. I gave them very good info about boss animation before attacks, strategies use to melee, pull adds together to kill them faster and especially resisting the urge to kite, staying together to use their skills to help others doing their parts. Wiped by the queen poison when we stacked so I abandoned that stacking part. Killed her the normal way then clear Kholer the next try. Wiped at the boss 2 times before melee him down on the 3rd try.
It’s an coordinated group even though it’s the 1st time they learn it. Info I provided to my group you can also find everywhere in internet but groups not running like headless chickens or playing the content as one on each own is a different story.

People are too serious of their knowledge.

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Posted by: Dog.1472

Dog.1472

The introductory dungeons are the story modes. AC Explore is not too difficult. This topic was already beaten to death and put to rest once a group of 5 people made level 35 alts and cleared it with ease.

The idea, at least at some point, was to revamp several more explore modes the way that they did with AC in order to make them less stupid. I think they’ve been busy with the living world thing though.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

If it really is a level35 dungeon, it won’t give level80 reward.

If you think about it, new people do have ac story to run.

I do think however, making AC easier might be a better game design. As it is the first dungeon for new player. But on the other hand, I think too many people are abusing AC to fast level.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

This topic was already beaten to death and put to rest once a group of 5 people made level 35 alts and cleared it with ease.

Funny thing is if they actually bother to check. A level35 alt have almost the same stats as a level80 character in AC.

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Posted by: wolfpaq.7354

wolfpaq.7354

I think too many people are abusing AC to fast level.

Uh, running level appropriate dungeons to gain experience is not abuse.

Swapping to your low level character and taking him into a max level dungeon just before the final boss goes down on the other hand…

Arenanet just really doesn’t know what they are doing when it comes to dungeons. Opener able to dump the party at any time, only 2 votes for a successful party kick, terrible loot rewards, ridiculously imbalanced explorable paths which they are now cementing as such with the variable reward system. I could go on but it’s just depressing how many great examples of dungeon systems there are that they just tossed out the window and went with their special home grown clusterkitten which is an awful experience for the vast majority of the playerbase.

And instead of fixes and improvements we get this temp festival fluff content that no one cares about except for the AP it gets them. I’m terrified of what’s going to happen to dungeons with this August 6th update & the eventual lfg tool.

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Posted by: PainShot.7154

PainShot.7154

This topic was already beaten to death and put to rest once a group of 5 people made level 35 alts and cleared it with ease.

Funny thing is if they actually bother to check. A level35 alt have almost the same stats as a level80 character in AC.

And same traits. And the experience. And several utilitys to select. And all elites to select.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

This topic was already beaten to death and put to rest once a group of 5 people made level 35 alts and cleared it with ease.

Funny thing is if they actually bother to check. A level35 alt have almost the same stats as a level80 character in AC.

And same traits. And the experience. And several utilitys to select. And all elites to select.

Ya I understand. The trait probably make the biggest different. Take a level80 warrior probably have sweet vengence, heightened focus, berserker’s might etc etc.

But everything else won’t make that much difference. If you are an experienced level35 alt you probably picked all the right skill.

All I’m saying is if people dont’ have problem running AC on their level80, they wont’ on their level35 too. So people dont’ need to make a video to prove their level35 character with 5000 achievement point can do AC easily.

On the other hand, I saw a few video on level35 claim they are noob. But they used all the right skill, ice bow, etc etc, and know how to dodge… I don’t believe they are newbie at all. At least I know when I’m level35, I’m quite terrible. I’m not sure how they are so pro at level35.

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Posted by: nightwulf.1986

nightwulf.1986

This topic was already beaten to death and put to rest once a group of 5 people made level 35 alts and cleared it with ease.

Funny thing is if they actually bother to check. A level35 alt have almost the same stats as a level80 character in AC.

And same traits. And the experience. And several utilitys to select. And all elites to select.

Ya I understand. The trait probably make the biggest different. Take a level80 warrior probably have sweet vengence, heightened focus, berserker’s might etc etc.

But everything else won’t make that much difference. If you are an experienced level35 alt you probably picked all the right skill.

All I’m saying is if people dont’ have problem running AC on their level80, they wont’ on their level35 too. So people dont’ need to make a video to prove their level35 character with 5000 achievement point can do AC easily.

On the other hand, I saw a few video on level35 claim they are noob. But they used all the right skill, ice bow, etc etc, and know how to dodge… I don’t believe they are newbie at all. At least I know when I’m level35, I’m quite terrible. I’m not sure how they are so pro at level35.

No, no, no, no. You see, you don’t understand. People needed to see. Really. When a group of people get it in their head that something can only be done a certain way, it’s really hard to break that mentality. I can assure you that so many people just started entering dungeons when they were level 80 that it was just assumed that the dungeons were impossible at level.