Ascended w/ Force or Exotic w/ Slaying Sigil?

Ascended w/ Force or Exotic w/ Slaying Sigil?

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Posted by: Tripzter.8623

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Hey there,
First of all sorry about this, I’ve been looking for the answer to this for some time but I couldn’t find it so I decided to post it here.
I’m a min-max freak, I just feel like with the state of this game’s dungeons, a player has to create his own goals or the game will drop to the point of the uninstal button starting to seem appealing..

So, I’ve been wondering, for speedclear / record attempts, some ppl would run the usual Force / Night Sigil combo for Night dungeons and Force / Slaying for Day dungeons. But Is that really the best option?

Let’s stay reasonable for a sec.. Most ppl can’t afford 1000000x Ascended Weapons (at least I don’t) so that Force / Night combo should be the most used.. But is an Ascended with Force Sigil an increase over an exotic weapon with a Slaying Sigil?
Because for Night dungeons, Night / Slaying combo should be better and since the ascended weapons seem to have a problem when doing dungeons below level 80 (or was that fixed?) the usual exotic weapons should be able to get an advantage with Slaying sigil over the Ascended with Force, but this ofc is just a thought, maybe even a fail one.

So, what do you guys think / know about this?

Thanks

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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Exotic sword: 952.5 × 1.1 = 1,048
Ascended sword: 1,000 × 1.05 = 1,050

Ascended has more raw stats too so imo there isn’t much to debate (for lvl 80 at least).

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Posted by: Tripzter.8623

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Exotic sword: 952.5 × 1.1 = 1,048
Ascended sword: 1,000 × 1.05 = 1,050

Ascended has more raw stats too so imo there isn’t much to debate (for lvl 80 at least).

Yea well that’s what I meant.. I agree that for lvl 80 dungeons, sure Ascended got the upper hand.. But since we only have 2 dungeons for lvl 80.. What about the rest? Is it worth it to stick with the same weapons for all of them?

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Posted by: Azrael.4960

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three, HoTW, CoE and Arah. Fractals is like 9 dungeons or something. I just go Force/Night on my great sword for everything. It’s not I really pay attention to the numbers any way.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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Exotic sword: 952.5 × 1.1 = 1,048
Ascended sword: 1,000 × 1.05 = 1,050

Ascended has more raw stats too so imo there isn’t much to debate (for lvl 80 at least).

Yea well that’s what I meant.. I agree that for lvl 80 dungeons, sure Ascended got the upper hand.. But since we only have 2 dungeons for lvl 80.. What about the rest? Is it worth it to stick with the same weapons for all of them?

Tbh, it is. If this was pre-ferocity I’d say it matters more but it’s not. If you had the option to try soloing CM back then to compare what it feels like now it’s almost depressing how easy everything is/overpowered you feel. The scaling of ferocity in the lower dungeons makes it so that in a group setting the difference between ascended equipment and exotic is non-existent. To notice the difference with night+slaying and night+force you’d have to pay close attention.

If it helps, this is what I do:

Eternity – force+night
Zojja’s Greatsword (transmuted to Eternity) – force+undead slaying (for Arah)

I carry on me about 30 sigils of undead slaying, 7-10 sigils of frailty (if I plan to duo FotM 50 or something, but in groups I don’t bother to change the sigils most of the time), and I currently have a few sigils of justice (+10% against outlaws) because I was attempting a CM P1 solo the other day so that I could compare the difference between now and when I last did it many months ago.

I don’t think making a ton of weapons with night+slaying is worth it unless you not only have loads of money to blow but plan to solo everything because once again, in groups nobody will notice the difference.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

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Exotic sword: 952.5 × 1.1 = 1,048
Ascended sword: 1,000 × 1.05 = 1,050

Ascended has more raw stats too so imo there isn’t much to debate (for lvl 80 at least).

Yea well that’s what I meant.. I agree that for lvl 80 dungeons, sure Ascended got the upper hand.. But since we only have 2 dungeons for lvl 80.. What about the rest? Is it worth it to stick with the same weapons for all of them?

For sub 80 content your ascended weapon has same weapon strength as your exotic weapon.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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Yeah, that’s the same conclusion I came to from my tests. One thing I’m still not 100% sure is whether its ascended getting scaling down to exotic, or exotic scaling up to ascended weapon strength. Or both scaling to somewhere in the middle.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

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Wow that is huge. Exotic weapons are affordable, looks like Im going to increase my gear

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.