Guild Wars 2

why is this path so easy?

can we make this super hard please. Thanks

How about a hostile Legendary Defender spawning on you every time you enter COF? That’s a great way to make it hard for you!

How about no. Dungeons aren’t even fun as it is right now.

I’ve been wanting that for months now.
I won’t even say the reasons for it because it’s obvious and everyone knows.

The issue is these dungeons become a virtual tug of war between players. Take Arah p4 Simin, pre patch. “Too hard please nerf”

Same with p1, pleas to buff it, will result in less people doing it, and more forums posts resulting in a forever see sawing of players wanting it changed.

Why do you feel your way should be implemented over everyone elses? Should all easy dungeon modes be nerfed? SE p3. This could be a snowball effect.

Because Simin was nerfed, doesnt mean all hard dungeon paths should be nerfed

Dungeons are tug of war because we don’t have normal mode/hard mode like in GW1.

Normal mode – easy, low reward
Hard mode – tough as nails, good rewards.

That should please everyone outside of those who will complain HM is too hard but they still want the rewards…which I’m sure there will be many.

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it. There are a ton of other dungeons you can do. Alot of people enjoy taking a very easy very fast dungeon, and trying to do it as fast/efficiently as possible to make it more of a challenge. So these people should no longer be able to do that in cof1 because it’s too easy for you and it bores you? Live and let live, and if you aren’t having fun/don’t feel rewarded doing something, there is always something else you could be doing. Once it’s nerfed it will just be another dungeon path whose reward isn’t nearly worth the time spent in it, and it will be abandoned. All the people who complain about how badly it needs to be nerfed will do it once post-nerf and probably never do it again. Just because you aren’t enjoying a certain aspect of the game and other people are, doesn’t mean it should be changed to what you want.

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

This.

I also think it’s too easy at the moment. But I do appreciate that by runing CoF p1 and p2 daily on all 4 toons I have, allowed me to deck my mes in exotics, get a second (and currently working on a third p/v/c set) for my thief. Once I get all the gear I need, I don’t think I’ll keep running it that much.
The main problem is that it’s too profitable. You get exo gear/or rares (ectos) and you get 1gold per path. It’s a win win situation. But from my experience only a small portion of players only do that. So I don’t see a major problem with it.
By a fix, I don’t mean to make it longer, just make it impossible to do with only a zerker party.

If it was made impossible for a zerker party, it would be impossible for the entire game. I cant think of one instance where you need “Tanks” or “non zerkers”. Care to come up with the mechanics?

hellokittyonline.7532:

why is this path so easy?

can we make this super hard please. Thanks

Go do Arah p4

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

Dude, you took the exact words out of my mouth. I hate people kittening about how the stuff in the game is too easy or too hard.

As you said, “if it’s too easy, don’t play it. There are 2 more paths.”
And well, if “it’s too hard, learn to play. Because other people do it, why not you?”

I think that should be the mentality of everyone. However, I know, nothing is perfect in this world so this would be asking for a lot.

Zardis.1745:

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

Dude, you took the exact words out of my mouth. I hate people kittening about how the stuff in the game is too easy or too hard.

As you said, “if it’s too easy, don’t play it. There are 2 more paths.”
And well, if “it’s too hard, learn to play. Because other people do it, why not you?”

I think that should be the mentality of everyone. However, I know, nothing is perfect in this world so this would be asking for a lot.

It’s not just this, people will always complain no matter what Anet does. People should just start worrying about themselves and what they are doing in all aspects of the game. The only time there should be any complaining is when the actions of others are directly affecting their gaming experience, which is not as often as the number of complaints posted on these forums. As others have said, if you don’t like it, do one of the 10 other dungeons…..

Zardis.1745:

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

Dude, you took the exact words out of my mouth. I hate people kittening about how the stuff in the game is too easy or too hard.

As you said, “if it’s too easy, don’t play it. There are 2 more paths.”
And well, if “it’s too hard, learn to play. Because other people do it, why not you?”

I think that should be the mentality of everyone. However, I know, nothing is perfect in this world so this would be asking for a lot.

The issue isn’t that it’s so easy, it’s that it’s so fast and easy at the same time that there’s no better way to get gold.

Do you guys remember the effigy before it got nerfed? When crystals were much more important and the final boss wasn’t a pillowfight because of the DPS it caused? Bring back the pre-nerf effigy and the problem will disappear

Main problem with cof 1 is just that it’s too short because you need to kill literally 1 champion and one boss, 2 silver mobs and couple of normal mobs (acolytes).
Probably making bridge event mandatory would help a lot (because now nobody do it). Gate event imo has balance issue. It was made for normal party but for warriors and thieves with good setup it’s just too easy to burst it down in couple of seconds. This make all this “survive” part just a joke.

It all depends what anet think about dungeons and whats should be the clear time for them. First champion in p1 could be made harder. Maybe give him quickness at start, to counter those push on wall and burst down tactic. Gate event should be imo redesigned, for now its too simple when we have gate specialist and quite hard when some other classes are trying to do it. Maybe they should change it to some “hack” event focused on survival not on gate burst.

Burn.5401:

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

This.

I agree in theory, but in practice this doesn’t really hold water. Given that dungeon running is a group required activity, you aren’t just making the decision yourself. You have to make the decision of which dungeon to run based on what the other available and interested players are wanting to run as well as what you want. If 90% of the dungeon running players want to run once specific path of one specific dungeon, it’s not always about what you personally want to do. Either you run it too, or you are forced to potentially spend hours scratching together a party to do something else.

Ethics.4519:

hellokittyonline.7532:

why is this path so easy?

can we make this super hard please. Thanks

Go do Arah p4

Arah p4 is not “hard” by any stretch of the imagination. Just those 4 silver mobs at Grenth are perilous.

gw2lfg is full of ‘LF 4 ZERK WARRS’. Clearly the reward you gain for running this dungeon day and night is completely unfair on those who just like to play the game. I’m probably hundreds of gold behind these people because they grind it infinitely like machines.

timecookie.8570:

Ethics.4519:

hellokittyonline.7532:

why is this path so easy?

can we make this super hard please. Thanks

Go do Arah p4

Arah p4 is not “hard” by any stretch of the imagination. Just those 4 silver mobs at Grenth are perilous.

I really don’t think P4 Arah is that hard at all, save for Simin/priestess of dwayna, which require good coordination. Were it not for her, I’d rate it as easy if not more so than Arah P3 whish is the favourite arah farming path.

On the OP however, perhaps CoF 1 does need tweaking to make it harder. I certainly hope that won’t happen or at least not for a long time. Just because I’d rather not see “elites” invading other, more (personally) preferable, dungeons :P

..yeah I’m not a big fan of CoF

Please don’t…..cause I just started farming it for gold and ultimately my legendary…..(I know I jumped on the wagon a bit late….)

Please leave at least one route for farmers….

Afya.5842:

Please don’t…..cause I just started farming it for gold and ultimately my legendary…..(I know I jumped on the wagon a bit late….)

Please leave at least one route for farmers….

Worry not, there’s still a few other easy dungeon paths around. there will likely still be options for farming other than cof1, and this forums will definitely point the way

generalraccoon.3857:

Afya.5842:

Please don’t…..cause I just started farming it for gold and ultimately my legendary…..(I know I jumped on the wagon a bit late….)

Please leave at least one route for farmers….

Worry not, there’s still a few other easy dungeon paths around. there will likely still be options for farming other than cof1, and this forums will definitely point the way

What he said ;D Most likely if they nerf CoF P1 the farmers will just move to HotW P1.

StriderShinryu.6923:

Burn.5401:

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

This.

I agree in theory, but in practice this doesn’t really hold water. Given that dungeon running is a group required activity, you aren’t just making the decision yourself. You have to make the decision of which dungeon to run based on what the other available and interested players are wanting to run as well as what you want. If 90% of the dungeon running players want to run once specific path of one specific dungeon, it’s not always about what you personally want to do. Either you run it too, or you are forced to potentially spend hours scratching together a party to do something else.

The only reason it is easy to find a group to run CoF path 1 is cause it’s so easily farmable. Take that away and it becomes the same as you are talking about, hard to find a group.

Turgut.4397:

gw2lfg is full of ‘LF 4 ZERK WARRS’. Clearly the reward you gain for running this dungeon day and night is completely unfair on those who just like to play the game. I’m probably hundreds of gold behind these people because they grind it infinitely like machines.

Who cares how much gold you or anyone else has? Just enjoy playing the game. If someone wants to waste hours and hours doing the same thing over and over like a machine, that is their loss by not enjoying the rest of what the game has to offer.

If your spending hours to form a party for any dungeon, must be something wrong like saying level 50 lfg Arah. Or making the mistake of putting a GW2Lfg.com ad saying “LFG Dungeon” Vs just inviting the people already forming.

TBH rather than buff/nerf paths. I would much prefer looking at the paths, the average time to complete, number of deaths etc, and then a rebalance of rewards. The issue is not P4 Arah being long or hard, but the fact the rewards are no better than a path that takes a 1/3 of the time. Same with Path 3 CoF. Up the tokens to 100, add a bit better loot on the later bosses, final chest.

If the rewards matched the difficulty, time invested, I don’t think some paths being easier would be an issue.

If what you care about in this game is making gold and buying nice stuff, suck it up and farm cof or orr. If you don’t care about gold but instead just want to have fun, do what you enjoy and the people who are off making money will be having less fun and won’t be bothering you. I’m not sure why it would be anyone’s prerogative to ruin someone else’s experience of the game because they are spending their time making money rather than doing something more enjoyable. It’s not like if you walk into cof path 1 you are just showered with gold and legendarys. It takes hours and hours and hours, day after day after day to grind up enough money to buy something nice. Just because it isn’t incredibly challenging doesn’t mean it isn’t hard work. If you want the nice stuff then either put in the work for it, or stop complaining that other people are.

As other people have said its not like people are getting something special because they choose to do CoF 1. The fact is that their will always be something in the game that is the most profitable. And as such people with the time will do this one thing as much as they can. I believe it is rather ludicrous to say that it is not fair that they are spending hours doing something and are rewarded more then you who only plays causally. Lastly its just a game play it for fun. Yes FUN you can still do this. If someone wants to make money as fast as they can (as their form of fun) then it will be impossible for a casual to match them get over, it i did a long time ago. I run CoF a few times but i just started recently so i would say i am more of a causal player.

great if u nerf cof path 1 runes means more more and more leaver and the way the system of nerfs works ad memend is stupid nerf stup but not but in any ting helping it out and if u ding soom new dungeons is cone help take log and fractals people ad sec are leaveing becous of the stupid loot from there what has as goten from lvl 30+ runs worses(blues mosly 1-2 greens and memby memby a core) and bigs leave was avther AC path buffs now no one rus AC soo who ever made this post most liky is forum troll who love to make people guite game

why is this path so easy?

can we make this super hard please. Thanks

Only if they put an NPC at the entrance that gives you 60 CoF tokens and a couple of gold each day when you interact with him. Otherwise, leave well enough alone because it’s the only hedge against the hedgefunders.

u thing u are dangerous ? go to arah)

If you want it to be hard because you want a challenge, go do other dungeons and paths, or do it without running pass the bridge or using other common tactics.

If you want it to be hard because you don’t like people that farm it... Well whats the problem? I think its lame too, but let them do it, it doesnt change how you play.

BTW, I did CoF P3 a few days ago and had fun!

look at all the BAWW on this thread from farmers. As if Anet doesn’t already know your “SUPER SECRET MONEY MAKING MACHINE”.

It doesn’t matter though, if players like it, IT SHOULD STAY. A game’s about having fun, if you’re not having fun, go do something else.

Even if it’s nerfed, dedicated players will either find a new place for you to whine about or quit the game.

Are you on crack dude? Cof p1 is one of the best ways to make gold in Gw2. Making it harder would enrage tons people.

Shotty.1902:

Are you on crack dude? Cof p1 is one of the best ways to make gold in Gw2. Making it harder would enrage tons people.

So you are gonna get enraged on april 30?

Do you guys crave so much for a path that is so hard only the most hardcore of hardcore players(and i am sure its you) can pull it off?

Do you want the challenge?feel the terror?..do you want to give some meaning to your life by finishing an extra hard path?

Well..i didn’t think so.All this threads and posts about CoF P1 getting nerfed just show how stuck up oppurtunistic loot craving jealous motherkitteners you all are.

It bothers you so much that people do not get you in P1 that you want it nerfed so other people cannot get their gold/loots/tokens.

Did you actually know that this path is so god kitten easy and enjoyable you can do it in 10min and maybe less with every god kitten class..All you need is to fix your spec and gear correctly.

Get your guild together and get in the dungeon and make money like everyone else.
Even if this gets nerfed from all of your complaints don’t you already know crafty players will find another way to make money as fast as now?
I am already placing my bets as to who will be complaining again.

The difficulty isn’t want bothers me, its that it can be farmed over and over so easily and dumps a ton of gold into the game which isn’t healthy.

In my opinion they should increase diminishing returns rather than making the dungeon itself harder. Make it so bag and pure coin drops from the bosses, as well as the coin reward for finishing the dungeon, takes hits the more you complete (or continually fail to prevent people from going through, getting the drops, this quitting at the end) it in a set time period. This should probably be done for all dungeons to prevent people from just moving to another like HotW.

JJBigs.8456:

The issue is these dungeons become a virtual tug of war between players. Take Arah p4 Simin, pre patch. “Too hard please nerf”

Same with p1, pleas to buff it, will result in less people doing it, and more forums posts resulting in a forever see sawing of players wanting it changed.

Why do you feel your way should be implemented over everyone elses? Should all easy dungeon modes be nerfed? SE p3. This could be a snowball effect.

Because Simin was nerfed, doesnt mean all hard dungeon paths should be nerfed

you just contradict your self, cause “Why do you feel your way should be implemented over everyone elses?” :P and COF1 should get a buff, as now it is just people farming it for easy money

Zardis.1745:

Syn Sity.5826:

If you think it’s too easy and you don’t enjoy it, don’t play it.

Dude, you took the exact words out of my mouth. I hate people kittening about how the stuff in the game is too easy or too hard.

As you said, “if it’s too easy, don’t play it. There are 2 more paths.”
And well, if “it’s too hard, learn to play. Because other people do it, why not you?”

I think that should be the mentality of everyone. However, I know, nothing is perfect in this world so this would be asking for a lot.

Well, i would like to see them reduce the reward after ever completion of the same dungeon per day, :P then you would be here crying cause they removed your easy money

haxi.9038:

Shotty.1902:

Are you on crack dude? Cof p1 is one of the best ways to make gold in Gw2. Making it harder would enrage tons people.

So you are gonna get enraged on april 30?

CoF stayed the same sooooooo.