Guild Wars 2

Hello guys, I have had some problems avoiding this attack with lots of circles. I made a short video to show my problem: http://youtu.be/WqUmrzVmQps

Could someone please explain what I’m doing wrong?

Looks like it was some sort of instantaneous lag problem or a legitimate bug somewhere, because that shouldn’t happen. That particular attack was going to be damaging the inner ring out of the two that formed, so you should have been perfectly fine, dodging or not. That said, I’ve done the exact same thing as this and have had no problem. Don’t know what’s going wrong :/

So, if I’m reading that right, your getting hit during WW’s invulnerable frames is the issue? I realize your character is showing as being outside the circles, but I’m willing to attribute that to either lag or the circles themselves not being the right size. If I’m responding to the right issue, I’ve heard some warriors complaining about WW being buggy lately. I know I’ve seen warbanner acting up, and I don’t even play warrior. . .

It’s definitely not anything to do with circle size. The damage was going to occur in the middle, with the ice forming on the ground. You could have stood inside the bigger circle without any damage at all. I’ve done this fight enough times to know that the circles themselves don’t have anything iffy about them.

It happens quite often if I rally during that attack.

And I’m not using WW.

Auesis.7301:

Looks like it was some sort of instantaneous lag problem or a legitimate bug somewhere, because that shouldn’t happen. That particular attack was going to be damaging the inner ring, so you should have been perfectly fine, dodging or not. That said, I’ve done the exact same thing as this and have had no problem. Don’t know what’s going wrong :/

I was about to say you were misreading the attack—that it was an outer circle attack, but then I rewatched the video and saw you were right. It just shows with different graphics in the video than I’m used to. . .

That being said, perhaps the game is tracking you as still being at the starting point until the WW ends? I’ve noticed on GL the last few days that my attacks go to his starting point in his tunnel move until he surfaces, and I’m pretty sure I’m doing damage to him the whole time. Could be related? If it still thinks you’re in the inner circle because WW hasn’t finished yet. . .

On the other hand, my CoE group seems to keep running into issues with being hit mid-dodge (or mid-distortion, in my case), so who knows?

Next time, can you show the combat log too?

@Ayrilana: The combat log says he was hit by teeth of Jormag, which is the AoE.

@Wethospu: I agree that looks like it shouldn’t have hit you; I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong.

I think situations like this can happen due to temporary lag, although that may not be the only explanation. Since the client calculates movement while the server calculates damage (as far as I can tell based on when I’ve disconnected), it could end up with you taking damage on the server in a situation that seems impossible on the client.

If this is reproducible, it may be a bug, although I expect we’d see more complaints about it if it was. Either way, that sucks.

I see. I was watching it from my phone so assumed it was regular chat since I couldn’t make it out.

@DelOnasi: I doubt many people get downed all the time, and if they do they are too clueless to complain about anything.

Fair enough; that’s probably true. Most people do the “stack here and dodge” thing for every path now, even path 2, so you wouldn’t even notice it if you’re doing that.

I didn’t notice it when doing the before the lasers part, and I was in path 3 for quite a while, but (a) I’m only one person, and that’s still a really small sample size, (b) I wasn’t on path 2, and © I wasn’t past the lasers, which based on the crystal, you were. It is definitely possible there’s a bug.

And yeah, it has happened to me about 5 times. Pretty much whenever I rally during that attack.

I had this a long time ago : if I started to jump while inside of the red circle and the AoE exploded while I was mid-air and (clearly) outside, I would still get hit.

Dunno if it’s similar or not but maybe those stairs are not so innoncent.

I have always joked that the stairs are the real enemy when fighting alpha, but in your case it may actually be the room. Does the same thing happen in the centre of the room as well?

Alpha just having his revenge since he got nerfed.

Wethospu.6437:

And yeah, it has happened to me about 5 times. Pretty much whenever I rally during that attack.

I agree that sounds much more like a bug than lag.

:(

It does look like Lag to me. Your screen showed you moving out.. the game thought you were still inside. All damage got applied when your game caught up with the server. I’ve had that quite a few times with large lag spikes where I will be fine then 1-2sec of damage will catch up with me all at the same time.