Guild Wars 2

grabs a very long stick and softly pokes the beehive

This post is not meant to start a whole argument between newbies (me mostly) and the experienced raiders, but it is something on my mind that I wanted to toss out there.

My apologies in advance for my spelling, but I am Dutch and not always that good at english :p
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Ever since the raids came out in GW2 I was very interested in joining in on the fun and doing a raid here or there, but quickly found out that I was waaaay below the level required for it. I have tried several times now to join a raid, but found out in my personal experience that it is very hard to get into as you need to have a specific type of armor and build in order to run along. I have even tried hosting several raids myself just with random people and found out that we failed a lot of times.

Seeing that story is now being mixed in with the raids it makes me want to raid even more, but I don’t feel like having to force myself to a specific playstyle JUST so that I can join a raid to see a kill or a vid that has story information.
I came to GW2 from another mmorpg where raiding was completely different and the higher the toughness the better, but in GW2 that off course is different.

So my question to make a long story short is the following:

Will there ever come a baby raid mode, just like the challange motes for people who want to raid, just in their normal gear to see the story and get less rewards then normal raiding, just to see if they are ready for it and want to do it?

I have no clue how much work this would be for the devs, and if it is even possible at all to scale everything down to a baby mode, but it would inspire me a lot more to give raiding another go, then to have to force myself into a specific state of play just to fit in with the big boys.

Sorry for the long post with such a simple question, but it are just my 2 cents that i needed to get off my chest

Greets,

Tj Tyler
The bloodstone crazed

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/A-Suggestion-For-Raids/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Raid-Normal-Hard-Mode/first

Crystal Reid.2481:

This comes up a lot so I’m going to jump in quickly since it’s a new post.

Tier systems for Raids come up a lot as a result of what Fractals did. I worked on the original Fractals team and a tiered system with increased difficulty scaling was always part of the original plan for that team. It was never a plan for Raids. They are, and should remain, the most difficult content in the game.

Accessibility in terms of difficulty is something we talk a lot about internally. We’ve made efforts to help players get in by delivering entry level encounters that ease you into the content (STK) and you’ll see more of that in the next release. You’ll still see encounters that live up to previous raid expectations for mid tier and final bosses. And if you think Matthias is a chump then we have something for you as well.

Accessibility in terms of “Hey, my 5 man Fractal group wants to try raids, but we can’t find 5 other players!” is also something we talk about. It’s just a much more difficult problem to solve.

Also, assuming you’re on EU servers you should look into RTI (Raid Training Initiative) as i hear (can’t validate being on NA) that they frequently do training runs. They should have a reddit post or thread somewhere on the forums.

Thank you for the tips and links I hope one day I will get it and can call myself a raider. Just wanted to get my thoughts out :-)

No.
Raids aren’t meant for babies.

Not to mention playing with random gear in instanced group content never yielded any results in any game whatsoever. You either play for the team or you are dragging the team down.

Tj Tyler.9521:

Ever since the raids came out in GW2 I was very interested in joining in on the fun and doing a raid here or there, but quickly found out that I was waaaay below the level required for it.

That’s exactly what makes raids unique from the plethora of average Joe content we already have – the skill level required. So no, we can’t have baby mode. If that’s what you want, you can play literally everything else in the game.

This entire game is a stupid 11111 brainless zergfest, you should be glad we have at least some content that is actually fun and engaging.

Sigmoid.7082:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/A-Suggestion-For-Raids/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Raid-Normal-Hard-Mode/first

Crystal Reid.2481:

This comes up a lot so I’m going to jump in quickly since it’s a new post.

Tier systems for Raids come up a lot as a result of what Fractals did. I worked on the original Fractals team and a tiered system with increased difficulty scaling was always part of the original plan for that team. It was never a plan for Raids. They are, and should remain, the most difficult content in the game.

Accessibility in terms of difficulty is something we talk a lot about internally. We’ve made efforts to help players get in by delivering entry level encounters that ease you into the content (STK) and you’ll see more of that in the next release. You’ll still see encounters that live up to previous raid expectations for mid tier and final bosses. And if you think Matthias is a chump then we have something for you as well.

Accessibility in terms of “Hey, my 5 man Fractal group wants to try raids, but we can’t find 5 other players!” is also something we talk about. It’s just a much more difficult problem to solve.

That wasn’t a definitive “no” to the idea. Merely an info that it wasn’t planned originally.
Plans are often subject to change.

TexZero.7910:

Also, assuming you’re on EU servers you should look into RTI (Raid Training Initiative) as i hear (can’t validate being on NA) that they frequently do training runs. They should have a reddit post or thread somewhere on the forums.

RTI is one of the best guilds for beginning raiders in EU. But you need to apply by form: RTI.enjin.com

My advice is to try to work on a ranger and make them a full magi armor druid with runes of the monk. They are in demand for training groups and have the least expensive gear setup. They don’t even need ascended jewelry/weapons to be good since damage isn’t their goal.

Thanks, Sigmoid, for the links.

Hope not and if so, no insights or shards should be givin.