Guild Wars 2

So, I join an AC group on my LvL 65 elementalist, there are 4 LvL 80s, a warrior, 2 guardians, and an engie. They have no issue with me being under level, yet they try to tell me how to do things, like collecting scepters for hodgins, when I’ve already completed it, telling me what utilities to use, etc.

So then we get to the Howling King. Two of them say, “We can get on the ledge using a portal gun”

I say, “What is that?”

“A safe spot, can’t get hit, stand here and…”

The Howling King was already upon us, aggro-ed by one of the smarties, his scavengers were spawning and knocking down the would be exploiters. Cursing at the stupidity of Anet, they kept trying. I took the howling king to the main battle ground while they tried to do this, while frantically typing, “Guys, it will be easier to just do it normal, and a lot more fun. Should be super easy because your all LvL 80 too.” No response, they are now being killed by the scavengers. One more player and I are up, while I kite the king, he raises the others, and I say, “Just do it normally, this is a waste of time, stop being chickens.” I guess they finally got it after wasting 10 mins trying to exploit. The king fell around 2 mins later.

I don’t understand Anets intention on allowing portal guns in dungeons, if they are not going to fix areas where people can exploit and /afk bosses.

Portal guns should be removed fullstop imo. Did a fractal the other night with a french canadian team who had a bot in the team. The bot couldnt do the jump puzzle bit of the harpy fractal so they used the portal gun to move it up the level till it got stuck just before the boss.

Really peeved me off because it ended up taking nearly an hour for us to get to the top. Only reason I stayed was I dont like to quit as I was party leader and wasnt about to lose out on my fractal rewards. As soon as that fractal was done though I was off like a shot and reported them.

How on earth would the bot know to use the portal?

Lerysh.8173:

How on earth would the bot know to use the portal?

It didnt thats the point, the french people had to leap all over the level to get portals to open up on the off chance it would “use” it. Thats what took all the time. And as I said it got stuck on the lower zone below the boss.

If it’s a true bot program it would have a loot ticking, right? Isn’t that what the bots were about in other games, run circles killing and looting? I know my loot and interact hotkey are the same key. Seems that would be the way they make it use the portal.

Whats the point of selling these fun items if you can’t find novel ways to use them?

Folk.2093:

Whats the point of selling these fun items if you can’t find novel ways to use them?

Novel? Using them to further exploits and glitches is not “novel”. But I agree with the first point you made. What is the point of selling these? None, its simply a gold sink. This one though needs to be looked at again, as its allowing for exploitation of the game.

Well you can “parkour” around random maps with them and get on top of the LA bank with them which isn’t an exploit of anything. They are just neat places to find throughout the game and is something you can do at the end game.

There was a bot in fractals and you didn’t leave right away?! Don’t get me wrong. I congratulate you on your selfless nature of staying with them to the end so they don’t lose out of their progress but there are some things you just don’t put up with. Bots are one of them. Anet’s policies aside, they don’t belong in any dungeon, especially the fractals.

I wasnt aware it was a bot at first, as the harpy fractal was #2, and since they were chattering in french I wasnt able to keep up with who said what when to whom. The first fractal was underwater (dolphins), so it completely masked the bots behaviour. As I said though I did leave directly after that fractal.

…what? No where in your OP is a portal gun even mentioned, except to request that it be removed from dungeons altogether. Presumably, since the mechanics are identical, you also want Mesmer’s portal ability removed. I don’t even see an argument for this, though. Perhaps you’re trying to say that any ability that facilitates exploiting should be removed (?). If that’s the case, then all abilities should be removed, since any and all abilities will facilitate exploiting a boss since you have to kill it with attack skills, etc.

/reductio

Sure, make the problem the portal guns. Let’s ignore the players who are purposefully cheesing the game, it’s the portal guns’ fault.

Cheesing the game is wrong. Lets all run guardians and face tank 90% of all fights.

Anet may now consider a nerf to mesmer portal, thanks to some people’s concerns about exploitation of GW2 dungeons and bosses. Goodbye to COF 1 Speed runs and easy Swamp mode.

I have an idea: lets nerf warrior damage since a lot of people are complaining about it too. I am sure that OP and others in this thread will agree.

Dang, people who use this sure are defensive; do you find finding safe spots fun and exciting? Do you really believe that using a consumable item to MAKE A BOSS COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS is not an exploit? And what’s with this “Oh all warriors/guards?” I ran a 65 ele in the dungeon. The 2 guardians and 1 warrior were to focused on cheesing the fight to face tank anything, which I assure you they could not do. Also, I run thief/necro in a lot of dungeons and have no need to cheese fights.

I would love to rid of people who exploit using the portal gun, but you know what? doing that would annihilate a large portion of the player base instantly. So yes, sarcasmic, in this case, it is the portal guns fault and it is Anets fault that they leave areas where people can teleport to and /afk the boss, then go on the forums and complain about it.

Also, edited the OP due to the fact that I forgot some people haven’t learned how to infer yet.

If your going to remove portal guns, you may as well also remove (or ban from use in dungeons) warrior 1-hand sword leap, guardian greatsword leap, engineer rifle jump, the jumping mechanic, mesmer blink, thief blink, mesmer portal, ele blink, ride the lightning, ele hammer. While your at it might as well remove necro summon heal, necro spectral walk and about 10 other things that I’m not going to bother mention.

Point: You had a kittenty experience with a couple pug kitten doesn’t mean they should remove anything from anywhere.

Nah, I’ve had plenty of experiences, it’s just that they NEED to fix these and it seems that it is not coming to their attention. At. All.

Levistis.8356:

Dang, people who use this sure are defensive; do you find finding safe spots fun and exciting? Do you really believe that using a consumable item to MAKE A BOSS COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS is not an exploit? And what’s with this “Oh all warriors/guards?” I ran a 65 ele in the dungeon. The 2 guardians and 1 warrior were to focused on cheesing the fight to face tank anything, which I assure you they could not do. Also, I run thief/necro in a lot of dungeons and have no need to cheese fights.

If they aren’t cheesing the encounter, they would be tanking / DPSing it. Class imbalance with regards to certain dungeons make it hard for casual / inexperienced players. A necro in AC is survivable, but really not fun since you have long CD break stuns etc. And one more time, AC is the starter dungeon for people to L2P.

As for eliminating much of the player base, I am sure that is exactly what some people want if this didn’t shut down GW2 , which is why they keep posting stuff like “pls make all dungeons harder” and “omg, ppl are cheesing/cheating at a video game”.

Lets get good looking gear and never learn the fights.

Everyone uses this spot.

We won’t get banned or lose anything.

Do it or you are not a team player and we will kick you.

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In the back of my head I really hope every time I screen shot and report in a dungeon the cheesers are getting, in the very least, suspended. Talk about ruining a game.

Bots in dungeon sounds pretty horrible. As for the portal gun, thats just emergent gameplay, if it can be used intelligently, why not.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. If you see or find an exploit, please report it by sending a mail to exploits@arena.net and providing as much evidence as possible. We will forward this to the team anyway so they can evaluate it and fix it as soon as possible.

Thanks for helping us make the game better.
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