Just did some maths. Assuming Ascended stuff ist 100%, white gear offers roughly 57-58% of the stats and damage.
Now that there are groups that 5 man raids (at least I’ve seen this for Vale), I wouldn’t be surprised if they can beat it with 10 man in whites aswell (assuming they use proper runes, sigils, buff food and ascended trinkets).
Your weapon damage is lower, your power is lower, your crit chance is lower, and your ferocity is lower. (and your armor is lower so you have to heal more)
those things all multiply each other, so you’ll probably be doing 1/4 the damage or less
That said! Condi is the way to go. Just have the entire team running condi builds, and it’ll be almost as easy as in full exotics
edit: Actually, do whites even come in condi? I don’t think they do, so nvm, it’ll be really hard no matter what. But condi is probably STILL the way to go.
Kind of doubt people wouldn’t manage it. If you can finish VG with almost 5mins left on the clock, why not this as well?
It comes down to readjusting your party composition, min/max’ing your builds accordingly and therefor making up for the lack of stats with proper utility/trait choices.
Your weapon damage is lower, your power is lower, your crit chance is lower, and your ferocity is lower. (and your armor is lower so you have to heal more)
those things all multiply each other, so you’ll probably be doing 1/4 the damage or less
That said! Condi is the way to go. Just have the entire team running condi builds, and it’ll be almost as easy as in full exotics
edit: Actually, do whites even come in condi? I don’t think they do, so nvm, it’ll be really hard no matter what. But condi is probably STILL the way to go.
Condition builds will suffer greatly from the lack of proper stats and runes. You need to maximize condition duration which you can’t do in whites. The lack of runes hurts.
Condition builds will suffer greatly from the lack of proper stats and runes. You need to maximize condition duration which you can’t do in whites. The lack of runes hurts.
White gear can hold runes.
Unless we are saying the runes need to be white as well? and there are no white runes, so we get no runes?
I either case, condi builds suffer, but not as much as power builds do.
Anyway, I don’t believe trinkets come in white rarity, so we’re working with only armor and weapons. I’ll run the numbers in a sec and repost.
k yeah, full whites does about 31% as much power damage as full ascended
meanwhile (assuming runes/sigils are allowed), condi duration can still reach 100%, and burning with no condi damage from gear does 60% as much damage as it does with full sinister
this is all of course assuming banners and 25 might and spotter etc
if runes and sigils are not allowed, condi duration takes a hit, but power builds take an equally large or larger hit. Condition duration can still reach 50-80% with just traits and consumables. So yeah, condi is the way to go if you’re going to do a run in whites only.
k yeah, full whites does about 31% as much power damage as full ascended
meanwhile (assuming runes/sigils are allowed), condi duration can still reach 100%, and burning with no condi damage from gear does 60% as much damage as it does with full sinister
this is all of course assuming banners and 25 might and spotter etc
if runes and sigils are not allowed, condi duration takes a hit, but power builds take an equally large or larger hit. Condition duration can still reach 50-80% with just traits and buffs. So yeah, condi is the way to go if you’re going to do a run in whites only.
Was confusing myself there. Last time I actually used anything other than exotics must have been right after the release. Interesting question whether runes or sigils should count, though.
If we let people use max runes and max food (which we probably should) then you are certainly right. Condition damage seems a much better choice here.
They could run groups like burntempest+burnzerker+sun spirit condition druid, chronomancer and something else. Even might can be done without PS.
A raid has been done by one of the top guilds in Exotics, took a heck of a lot to achieve that. I doubt if anyone could actually pull off doing a raid in whites.
