Guild Wars 2

I’ve been pugging dungeons recently and it seems every single ele that I find has frostbow and is permanently using it.

Now I get that it does great damage vs structures and a decent amount against enemies with large hitboxes but really?

I’m seeing people use it all the way through the dungeon, even just spamming the 1 skill at bosses.

I recently leveled my ele to lvl 80. Can’t say I use frostbow much outside of AC. FGS skill 4 however has been very nice.

The icestorm is crazy! Seems to crit everytime (but maybe it’s luck), good AoE, bleeding… add a poison cloud and a ethereal field and you’re done
And, yes, you may not notice since no one does a healing power char, but on my elementalist the auto-attack is the best heal I have (1000+ AoE, fast as hell!)

Tetriandoch.6145:

The icestorm is crazy! Seems to crit everytime (but maybe it’s luck), good AoE, bleeding… add a poison cloud and a ethereal field and you’re done
And, yes, you may not notice since no one does a healing power char, but on my elementalist the auto-attack is the best heal I have (1000+ AoE, fast as hell!)

What?

deSade.9437:

Tetriandoch.6145:

The icestorm is crazy! Seems to crit everytime (but maybe it’s luck), good AoE, bleeding… add a poison cloud and a ethereal field and you’re done
And, yes, you may not notice since no one does a healing power char, but on my elementalist the auto-attack is the best heal I have (1000+ AoE, fast as hell!)

What?

Oh no…..

Every single friend i have that tried the ele has tried to build it as a cleric, and every single one of them quit the class because it was useless.

Ugh…. Still, people, stop with the frost bow!

Lightning hammer is fun too ya know.

You totally got me at hammer. I like hammering stuff.

deSade.9437:

You totally got me at hammer. I like hammering stuff.

Lol!

I have been noticing this as well. Is there a new meta we are missing??!!???11

maxinion.8396:

I have been noticing this as well. Is there a new meta we are missing??!!???11

Play how you want is the new meta. The frost bow just looks shiny!

Though, I’m not sure who would pick the frost bow skin over mjolnir. HEhe

deSade.9437:

You totally got me at hammer. I like hammering stuff.

I guess you could say you are…

*puts on shades *

Totally hammered.

LittleLepton.8915:

maxinion.8396:

I have been noticing this as well. Is there a new meta we are missing??!!???11

Play how you want is the new meta. The frost bow just looks shiny!

Though, I’m not sure who would pick the frost bow skin over mjolnir. HEhe

Mjolnir is fugly. I’d much rather put wintersbark on my thief.

That is, if I ever get the motivation to make one. x_x

maxinion.8396:

I have been noticing this as well. Is there a new meta we are missing?

Meta is still s/f LH. Builds are in my sig.

As for these frost bow AA spammers…. they’re just noobs. FB is good for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: 4 attack, usually used only once and then dropped, except for certain parts of AC.

They want to be bearbows too.

lol come do any dungeon with me, especially stack on a lvl 50 fractal no matter which path and I’ll show you why frostbow is awesome, even the new ele heal skill. Sometimes I’ll run and not cast one skill to see how the party does, ele’s are awesome. And this “heavy” only in fractal party searches is pathetic. I’ve been in parties and ran Fractal lvl 50 in less than 30 minutes the whole way through.

Shiva Dragons Heart.5203:

lol come do any dungeon with me, especially stack on a lvl 50 fractal no matter which path and I’ll show you why frostbow is awesome, even the new ele heal skill. Sometimes I’ll run and not cast one skill to see how the party does, ele’s are awesome. And this “heavy” only in fractal party searches is pathetic. I’ve been in parties and ran Fractal lvl 50 in less than 30 minutes the whole way through.

wat

Are you that shout heal warrior who streams?

Anierna.6918:

As for these frost bow AA spammers…. they’re just noobs. FB is good for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: 4 attack, usually used only once and then dropped, except for certain parts of AC.

I agree with that and I’m a big fan of your guides (which I follow on another ele), but why call “noob” someone who still tries to be a good healer in a game where the system discourages it? Icebow AA is far better that my main water AA on staff, even if it’s temporary: just saying that as it seems it is the most powerful/fast direct healing in the game (to my knowledge, actually: if there’s something else, please tell)

Best regards and merry xmas!

LittleLepton.8915:

deSade.9437:

Tetriandoch.6145:

The icestorm is crazy! Seems to crit everytime (but maybe it’s luck), good AoE, bleeding… add a poison cloud and a ethereal field and you’re done
And, yes, you may not notice since no one does a healing power char, but on my elementalist the auto-attack is the best heal I have (1000+ AoE, fast as hell!)

What?

Oh no…..

Every single friend i have that tried the ele has tried to build it as a cleric, and every single one of them quit the class because it was useless.

Ugh…. Still, people, stop with the frost bow!

Lightning hammer is fun too ya know.

Oh yeah target the boss and press autoattack, that’s soo funny.

Tetriandoch.6145:

Anierna.6918:

As for these frost bow AA spammers…. they’re just noobs. FB is good for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: 4 attack, usually used only once and then dropped, except for certain parts of AC.

I agree with that and I’m a big fan of your guides (which I follow on another ele), but why call “noob” someone who still tries to be a good healer in a game where the system discourages it? Icebow AA is far better that my main water AA on staff, even if it’s temporary: just saying that as it seems it is the most powerful/fast direct healing in the game (to my knowledge, actually: if there’s something else, please tell)

Best regards and merry xmas!

basically, a “healing” built character will not be able to contribute lots of might/vuln/high fury uptime/weakness/blind/block/cc/reflects/raw dps…

generally, a person who plays such a build will not be doing things like using dps food, stacking bloodlust/perception, proper rotations, slaying potions… as well as NOT doing the other things mentioned above which directly DECREASE the potential dps of their party members.

also, because of the multiplicative nature of the many damage modifiers that dps builds/rotations have (which obviously includes power/crit chance/crit damage, so this includes armour/trinkets/weapons as well, not just traits/utilities) the “healing” oriented character will be doing like 20% of the damage than the optimized characters are, while also directly decreasing the other party member’s potential dps output.

why is this important? when there are 3-4 people at least that know what they are doing and optimized in the dungeons, then basically it will not matter if the “healing” oriented character is afk or not in the whole dungeon run, because of literally negligible contribution to the team.

why is this important? because you are in a TEAM, going in an INSTANCE, which can only hold up to FIVE people. people do not get that this is NOT open world, where you can have a zergfest of 20+ sub-optimal builds pressing 11111111111111111

happy holidays!

swiftpaw.6397:

deSade.9437:

You totally got me at hammer. I like hammering stuff.

I guess you could say you are…

*puts on shades *

Totally hammered.

I vaguely recalling posting a lot yesterday while out of my mind, but now I can’t find the posts… I wonder if I was dreaming or what. Didn’t get infracted either.
Ugh. I indeed feel like someone bashed my head with a hammer.
Someone should throw a frost bow heal at me so I can recover. Plox?

You may or may not have wanted to make out with me.

swiftpaw.6397:

You may or may not have wanted to make out with me.

What.

deSade.9437:

swiftpaw.6397:

You may or may not have wanted to make out with me.

What.

Things were said and then thread deletion ;D

Anierna.6918:

maxinion.8396:

I have been noticing this as well. Is there a new meta we are missing?

Meta is still s/f LH. Builds are in my sig.

As for these frost bow AA spammers…. they’re just noobs. FB is good for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: 4 attack, usually used only once and then dropped, except for certain parts of AC.

Oh boy, wrong again.

This thread went off topic quickly…

I just wanted to say, while the AA of frost bow is terrible, frost bow 5 can be useful in some situations as it freezes bosses for 5 seconds if they didn’t have the defiant stopping it.

kokiman.2364:

LittleLepton.8915:

deSade.9437:

Tetriandoch.6145:

The icestorm is crazy! Seems to crit everytime (but maybe it’s luck), good AoE, bleeding… add a poison cloud and a ethereal field and you’re done
And, yes, you may not notice since no one does a healing power char, but on my elementalist the auto-attack is the best heal I have (1000+ AoE, fast as hell!)

What?

Oh no…..

Every single friend i have that tried the ele has tried to build it as a cleric, and every single one of them quit the class because it was useless.

Ugh…. Still, people, stop with the frost bow!

Lightning hammer is fun too ya know.

Oh yeah target the boss and press autoattack, that’s soo funny.

Hey now, my feelings are hurt easily. Be nice!

:)

omg. picked up two separate pug eles for CoF p1 and p2— both were using frost bow everywhere tonight! Can’t believe this.

Is it because of Tequatl that people think ice bow is so powerful recently, or something? Whyyyyyyyyy

frostbow is decent in some situations as it slows some enemies to maintain high aoe damage. i usually pick one up if i have most skills on cooldown. press 4, target champ or prio mob press 5, press 2 then drop and continue again being productive. it defintitely is not worth holding on to for the full recharge of its skills or even using all the charges of the bow itself outside of particular instances. it’s good situationally in AC and can be good in CM for slowing/AoEing down the larger mobs, like the ambush, the fear spamming doggies, the mobs of riflemen/bombers in the different paths, can be useful in SE in p1 and p3 in certain areas. it is by no means meta and outside of these certain areas should be swapped out for something more useful. healing aside, its a ranged weapon so how many 1k heals do you actually need? O.o

Any time you can hit a large area (a boss with a large hit box, or a big pack of trash) is can do decent burst damage. The problem is that burst has a pretty long cd, and it’s taking up a utility slot that could have lh, fire signet, arcane shield, etc. I don’t really fault people for experimenting with it, I only get annoyed when I see them ice-storming human sized bosses and continuing to auto attack with the bow. It’s pretty obvious when someone understands what makes an icebow powerful, and when they don’t.

It’s situational. Sometimes the group has no synergy at all, and it’s risky to go melee when getting aggro. I also use #4, #5 and #2 to get to the harpies in fractal while my wind is up.

I’ve found the source of the ticking! It’s a pipe bomb!

But no seriously. I’m apparently not a true elementalist.

Excuse me while I cry myself to sleep.

That’s! Right! you’re not an Ele

You’re a Wizard!
(Rumor has it math wizards can detect low dps specs and stay away from them)

OIIIIIO.7825:

That’s! Right! you’re not an Ele

You’re a Wizard!

Hahahahaha be my friend PLOX