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Posted by: ICEing.9237

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I was wondering what I can do to solo lupi without signet of stamina? It seems like I NEED this. I can get by phase 1 and 2 without it but phase 3 is near impossible. He aoe life steals into the single target life steal and that’s so many dodges In a short amount of time I don’t have enough stamina even with a sig of energy on off hand sword.

Is there a rotation you guys do that helps? And using adrenaline for a dodge back doesn’t give u a whole lot of stamina either and I see that as a dps loss.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

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Use Greatsword 3 for the third dodge, and bring OH Sword for the blocks on 5. You have more than enough to sustain his attacks assuming you don’t waste your dodges/evades/blocks.

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Posted by: Grok Krog.9581

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Can use burst skills to get 15% endurance back. Not alot but it helps. I’ve fully soloed him though. When I try I run Greatsword and Sword/Sword so I have an extra leap to get out of his rising AoE

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Posted by: TheKillerAngel.3596

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When he does AoE lifesteal, GS3 out of it and dodge once. Switch back to your axe/sword and you will have full endurance. As soon as he does the single target lifedrain, dodge twice, then switch back to greatsword. Repeat.

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Yeah I can solo lupi no prob with stamina sig. But without it I seem to run out of dodges. And I don’t want to use endurance food since it’s a dps loss and then I might as well use stamina sig.

I just want to replace it with FGJ

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

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When he does AoE lifesteal, GS3 out of it and dodge once. Switch back to your axe/sword and you will have full endurance. As soon as he does the single target lifedrain, dodge twice, then switch back to greatsword. Repeat.

That seems interesting ima try it. Any other tips?

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Have an energy sigil on your offhand sword. You can actually almost do the entire solo with just base dodges and ww (greatsword camping). You may need the block or energy sigil proc for some of the aoe lifesteals though.

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

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When he does AoE lifesteal, GS3 out of it and dodge once. Switch back to your axe/sword and you will have full endurance. As soon as he does the single target lifedrain, dodge twice, then switch back to greatsword. Repeat.

That seems interesting ima try it. Any other tips?

Try using WA only to dodge during single target drain (you still need to dodge second time manually). Then only to dodge the AoE lifesteal during a different run. Then try to combine accquired knowledge. Just surviving after getting those two timings down should be easy but you need to think forward keeping your cooldowns and possible upcoming Lupicus attacks to be able to do optimal dps rotations along with saving WA dodges.

Phase 3 was the easiest for me without stamina signet since you’re a lot less reliant on WA to not get one-shotted and have more windows to get WA after like a GS second autoattack.

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Posted by: IvanTheGrey.2941

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Phase 3 is all about rotations imo. For the single target life drain, dodge forward, then back and get on gs. AA until he does his barrage (if off wall) and gs3 through it. Switch to axe/sword and do axe2, sword 4 and AA until he does his Aoe life drain. Dodge back once and sword 5 until out of the aoe. Bid your time w/ axe 3 and walk in and eviscerate him (unless you’re going for speed). That’ll give you back most of your bar.

If you’re camping gs, dodge once and wwa out of the aoe. Gs4 when out and when he touches down, gs 5 to rush him. When you get to him, weapon swap and you’ll have almost, if not completely, full endurance. Rinse, repeat ad nauseaum. This hasn’t failed for me yet.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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Using gs3 to evade from the big aoe is quite a huge dps loss but it makes it a lot easier.
Just dodge once and swap to sword to block.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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Are you using an energy sigil? If so there shouldn’t be any problems as long as you aren’t wasting dodges. However, are you off wall? Sometimes RNG can make things tricky.

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

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http://www.twitch.tv/eco_r_i/c/4516811

if you go to phase 3, i use every trick in the book to evade all his different attacks

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“every trick in the book” is not helpful advice when talking to someone who does not know every trick

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

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I did it successfully but messed up a couple times.
Any feedback?

http://youtu.be/wpQplhIzuok

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

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You stayed too close to lupi when you were trying to push him to the wall during phase2. The best way to do it is back up a little bit and walk around him where he only turns and not walk. Keep doing that until his back is facing the wall and then you go back into melee range.

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ICEing.9237

You stayed too close to lupi when you were trying to push him to the wall during phase2. The best way to do it is back up a little bit and walk around him where he only turns and not walk. Keep doing that until his back is facing the wall and then you go back into melee range.

Yeah i was getting a little frantic with pushing him back to the wall.
What do you recommend for faster times? Is fighting him off the wall faster?
I know I was missing bloodlust stacks too

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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I watched it and have some specific advice for ya.

First of all your best phase by far was phase 1, good job. There’s not a whole lot that I can say for phase 1 other than this:
1) try to dodge into him instead of outwards, as it’s noticeable that you have to spend a second or two repositioning yourself before attacking again. Because of this, you aren’t able to begin a hundred blades channel without interrupting yourself with a whirlwind or dodge.
2) Try to stand outside of his red circle when the swarms appear because you’ll be able to hit them with your GS autoattacks along with lupi but without draggin lupi left & right. Ideally you’ll be able to take care of them quickly with 100b+WWA but sometimes it’s not the case when you get more than one.

Phase 2:
You started getting a little shaky with pushing him back into the wall, which is understandable because it takes a lot of practice to do. I understand that the main reason you were autoattacking with GS so much and not doing 100b is because you were struggling to get him on the wall, but the reality is that the phase went pretty slow because of it. Practice pushing him— there are a few awkward spots in the arena where he doesn’t move properly because the terrain is uneven. You’ll get a feel for it and it’ll become second nature at some point.

Phase 3:
This phase I think you need to work on a lot more than 1 & 2. You spent a lot of time autoattacking with GS which is actually really slow damage. You didn’t use hundred blades much at all which is your main source of damage along with whirlwind. Remember that if you click on whirlwind, it’ll go in the direction your camera is facing so you CAN use it as an evasion instead of a dodge roll. If he’s against the wall, you should never ever eviscarate. Unless you accidentally waste all of your dodges, it’s never needed and will hurt your damage.

I guess that’s all the specific things to mention. For reference, I’ll link you to one of my best kills with the least amount of mistakes in it so you can watch and try to see what I do. Hopefully it helps!

http://www.twitch.tv/purpleishawt/c/4510594

EDIT:
I’ll point out some mistakes that I made for you. In phase 1, I wasted 1 dodge roll. In phase 2, I tried to bait out his swipe at the start assuming he was going to, where I should have simply began a 100b channel + WWA instead. In phase 2, the second frenzied blast (AoE barrage) I was a little clumsy with because he did it a little earlier than expected. Phase 3 I caused him to heal 4 ticks total excluding the very final life drink that I went all-out on to finish him.

By the way, it might be really helpful for you to try to find each of the mistakes of mine that I outlined here by watching the video. It will be helpful for you to learn the rotations and figure out what to do… at least I’d think so. Let me know if it helps.

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

ICEing.9237

I watched it and have some specific advice for ya.

First of all your best phase by far was phase 1, good job. There’s not a whole lot that I can say for phase 1 other than this:
1) try to dodge into him instead of outwards, as it’s noticeable that you have to spend a second or two repositioning yourself before attacking again. Because of this, you aren’t able to begin a hundred blades channel without interrupting yourself with a whirlwind or dodge.
2) Try to stand outside of his red circle when the swarms appear because you’ll be able to hit them with your GS autoattacks along with lupi but without draggin lupi left & right. Ideally you’ll be able to take care of them quickly with 100b+WWA but sometimes it’s not the case when you get more than one.

Phase 2:
You started getting a little shaky with pushing him back into the wall, which is understandable because it takes a lot of practice to do. I understand that the main reason you were autoattacking with GS so much and not doing 100b is because you were struggling to get him on the wall, but the reality is that the phase went pretty slow because of it. Practice pushing him— there are a few awkward spots in the arena where he doesn’t move properly because the terrain is uneven. You’ll get a feel for it and it’ll become second nature at some point.

Phase 3:
This phase I think you need to work on a lot more than 1 & 2. You spent a lot of time autoattacking with GS which is actually really slow damage. You didn’t use hundred blades much at all which is your main source of damage along with whirlwind. Remember that if you click on whirlwind, it’ll go in the direction your camera is facing so you CAN use it as an evasion instead of a dodge roll. If he’s against the wall, you should never ever eviscarate. Unless you accidentally waste all of your dodges, it’s never needed and will hurt your damage.

I guess that’s all the specific things to mention. For reference, I’ll link you to one of my best kills with the least amount of mistakes in it so you can watch and try to see what I do. Hopefully it helps!

http://www.twitch.tv/purpleishawt/c/4510594

EDIT:
I’ll point out some mistakes that I made for you. In phase 1, I wasted 1 dodge roll. In phase 2, I tried to bait out his swipe at the start assuming he was going to, where I should have simply began a 100b channel + WWA instead. In phase 2, the second frenzied blast (AoE barrage) I was a little clumsy with because he did it a little earlier than expected. Phase 3 I caused him to heal 4 ticks total excluding the very final life drink that I went all-out on to finish him.

By the way, it might be really helpful for you to try to find each of the mistakes of mine that I outlined here by watching the video. It will be helpful for you to learn the rotations and figure out what to do… at least I’d think so. Let me know if it helps.

I see, thanks for your honesty. It’s what I need right now. For phase 3 I get very nervous I’m going to get bubbled or blasted so I feel the need to evi for the dodge just “to be safe” but I’ll try not to next time.
Would you recommend I focus more on hundred blades or axe auto?

Thanks for the advice!

And ima go watch the video now.

I see warriors killing him in 5-6 minz I want to get to that time

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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Focus more on camping GS, but ideally you want to use hundred blades + whirlwind as soon as you can (within reason). Something else that I could have done to improve my own time is get in the rotation of using whirlwind first then hundred blades, as it stacks might quickly for more damage output. The problem with that is that if you get unlucky RNG, it’s less reliable to break out of a hundred blades channel to dodge than it is to break out if it to whirlwind. I’m sure you’ve figured that out yourself.

When you swap to axe/sword it should pretty much only be for the block/extra dodge, however using impale (and rip) and cyclone axe before swapping back is a good way to make the best of the 5 seconds you have without GS.

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

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You stayed too close to lupi when you were trying to push him to the wall during phase2. The best way to do it is back up a little bit and walk around him where he only turns and not walk. Keep doing that until his back is facing the wall and then you go back into melee range.

Yeah i was getting a little frantic with pushing him back to the wall.
What do you recommend for faster times? Is fighting him off the wall faster?
I know I was missing bloodlust stacks too

You want to wall him because he attacks a whole lot less in phase 3 and swarms get stuck inside walls, and u have a wall to WWA on. Also walling him makes the fight 10 times easier, as well as reckless dodge not moving him to weird places when u dodge into him.

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Posted by: maha.7902

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I would honestly swap out rending strikes for furious speed if you’re practicing so that you never have a reason to eviscerate – and if you do use a burst skill, cast your signet of fury to regain your berserker’s power.

my opinion is:

don’t be afraid to hundred blades more (like, a lot more, hb/ww is the whole reason camping gs is a thing), and don’t use burst skills for endurance, deal with your situation as if lupicus is doing nothing (so canned, vacuum dps rotations) until he actually does something – then take evasive measures. that’ll cut your kill times by like half – speeding up your kill speed is literally all in your rotations – barring the force and night sigils, we are all playing with exactly the same gear and build, just some people do it better.

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

ICEing.9237

I would honestly swap out rending strikes for furious speed if you’re practicing so that you never have a reason to eviscerate – and if you do use a burst skill, cast your signet of fury to regain your berserker’s power.

my opinion is:

don’t be afraid to hundred blades more (like, a lot more, hb/ww is the whole reason camping gs is a thing), and don’t use burst skills for endurance, deal with your situation as if lupicus is doing nothing (so canned, vacuum dps rotations) until he actually does something – then take evasive measures. that’ll cut your kill times by like half – speeding up your kill speed is literally all in your rotations – barring the force and night sigils, we are all playing with exactly the same gear and build, just some people do it better.

Should I take out dual wielding too since I’ll be camping gs? And won’t the loss of rending strikes be a dps loss?

But yeah ima try to HB more. My prob is I think : “I have to wait for him to do a claw swipe, or life drain before I HB, otherwise Ima just have to interrupt it then auto attack”

I need to stop that thinking

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

ICEing.9237

When you swap to axe/sword it should pretty much only be for the block/extra dodge, however using impale (and rip) and cyclone axe before swapping back is a good way to make the best of the 5 seconds you have without GS.

What’s the best way to make use of impale>rip? Should it be impale, let it sit for torment?

I usually impale, Axe auto, rip

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

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There’s nothing to pick up in place of dual wield. And taking it off only because you use greatsword more doesn’t make too much sense to begin with.

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Posted by: ICEing.9237

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Oh last question I have is what to put bloodlust on? Since now you lose the stacks if you swap your wep out.

I guess axe?

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

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I have soloed Lupi on wall as a warrior with green gear and without energy sigil. Not sure how that will pan out in terms of one trying to get record kill since I have to use my wwa to run out of the aoe life drain ring.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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Yes axe for bloodlust stacks, and ideally you want to wait as long as possible before using Rip, but since you have only a few seconds before swapping back to GS, you may as well use it immediately because you want to do a cyclone axe as well.