Can we stop the ascended armor madness?
Personally I avoid full ascended players (unless they are in speed running groups or use expensive stat sets like vipers), cause who in his right mind would think ascended armor is worth it? Usually they use bad rotations and kitten up
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No disrespect, but the logic…just is not here…
Sure, they can buy their Ascended Gear with $$$ and call it skill, but any player can buy an exotic set off of 60 minutes worth of playing. This is why I do not deal with pugs. Ascended Gear != automatic skill. It merely indicates it over a broad spectrum of players. It’s an advantage, however small. There is literally no reason to avoid a full ascended player. There is literally no reason to not set a goal to be in full ascended gear in regards to raiding. (If buying cool transmogs and dyes is your thing have at it outside of raiding)
You naturally accumulate gold from playing this game. I think i’ve put about 1400 hours in and my account worth is around 13,000 gold. (This includes skins and such that I’ve simply unlocked and such but it is still considered gold gained) I don’t farm gold, I don’t go out of my way to do content because the gold gain is high. I just play. With this logic I’ve potentially about 9g/Hour. So, perhaps if you are new to this game with <500 hours then Ascended Armor is far out of your reach, assuming you have the worst RNG in the world and can not get chests to drop for you. (I’ve gotten 8 armor chests and maybe 10 weapon chests.)
If not, I don’t see why your goal wouldn’t be to optimize your character regardless… Unless you don’t play this game?
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Cyninja – I mean ascended armor does provide a stat boost however small. Saying it isn’t worth it is a matter of perspective, but mathematically wrong…
Actually if you look at the cost to stats ratio of Exotic and Ascended gear, I think it’s not mathematically wrong at all. In fact, it’s even more evident that Ascended gear is not really worth the cost. It’s a luxury and luxuries are only ‘worth it’ if the cost doesn’t mean much to you.
Sure, but I view 600g +- chests as worth it for the gain in stats as many players do. It’s all perspective and really not up to the player to dictate what groups require. What you are arguing has been discussed above. What I was saying is the gain in stats with always be mathematically beneficial for a group that is progressing.
Personally I avoid full ascended players (unless they are in speed running groups or use expensive stat sets like vipers), cause who in his right mind would think ascended armor is worth it? Usually they use bad rotations and kitten up
Met this ranger once in a fractal group, he had full ascended armor and weapon (visible skins). All he did was camp longbow and autoattack. I think he was using celestial stats, at least the longbow skin was celestial, and he soaked damage like nothing. Just made me wonder how that is even possible.
First I tought that it must be some kid playing on a parent’s account or meybe he is drunk but after seeing so many afwul players with asc gear I don’t really know anymore.
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Cyninja – I mean ascended armor does provide a stat boost however small. Saying it isn’t worth it is a matter of perspective, but mathematically wrong…
Actually if you look at the cost to stats ratio of Exotic and Ascended gear, I think it’s not mathematically wrong at all. In fact, it’s even more evident that Ascended gear is not really worth the cost. It’s a luxury and luxuries are only ‘worth it’ if the cost doesn’t mean much to you.
Sure, but I view 600g +- chests as worth it for the gain in stats as many players do. It’s all perspective and really not up to the player to dictate what groups require. What you are arguing has been discussed above. What I was saying is the gain in stats with always be mathematically beneficial for a group that is progressing.
Yes, but that’s not an objective measure of worth; cost/stats ratio is.
There is no objective measure of worth. Worth is subjective.
To someone with ten million gold a 3% increase in power for the cost of a measly ten thousand gold, a negligible one tenth of one percent of his total wealth, might very well be worth it. Others might consider ten grand for such a minor power increase to be excessive. Yet another millionaire might decide that he did not work his tail off earning such a fortune only to waste it on gear that provides a measly 3% power increase.
Completely subjective.
OK but the ratio of cost to stats increase is itself an objective measure. Don’t get lost in the pedantic arguments of what it’s called, then turn around and claim it’s a subjective measure.
Cyninja – I mean ascended armor does provide a stat boost however small. Saying it isn’t worth it is a matter of perspective, but mathematically wrong…
Actually if you look at the cost to stats ratio of Exotic and Ascended gear, I think it’s not mathematically wrong at all. In fact, it’s even more evident that Ascended gear is not really worth the cost. It’s a luxury and luxuries are only ‘worth it’ if the cost doesn’t mean much to you.
Sure, but I view 600g +- chests as worth it for the gain in stats as many players do. It’s all perspective and really not up to the player to dictate what groups require. What you are arguing has been discussed above. What I was saying is the gain in stats with always be mathematically beneficial for a group that is progressing.
Yes, but that’s not an objective measure of worth; cost/stats ratio is.
Only if you view worth as purely a monetary thing. Which is the point that was being made, is that worth is not strictly a monetary thing.
Sure, but if you’re not just here to argue with me over definitions, then even you can see that cost/stats ratio is an objective measure for armor.
Sure, the ratio is objective. The subjective part is the decision by the individual player as to whether that ratio represents value to them or not.
Since this is a thread about Asc. armor requirements by raid PuG’s, I think we can safely say that the players making those groups consider the investment worthwhile, and those complaining about the requirements don’t.