Change to party kicking.
well I would say force the whole party except for the one being voted about to vote and ask for a success ratio of 3/4. If you ask for 4/4 (the person in question not voting), then a buddy of that person could vote “no”, if you ask for 2/4 like it is now,2 friends kick the other 3 members to prevent anyone from getting rewards just to be mean to people. I do agree with you though – from what has happened to me and from how many posts about it I see it really, REALLY needs to be changed.
keep it as is. there’s times you need it, which far outweigh the trolling/griefing done with it. as it stands you can rid the group of leeches and kitten. don’t kitten with it.
I am not really a victim of this happening. Alot of the times even when I don’t start a party I will take the lead and do alot of the talking since everybody is a mute sheep in most parties these days.
But, I do read the forums alot and I repeatedly see threads of somebody getting booted right at or before a last boss etc.
Now from my understanding it seems like you literally only need one other person to click agree to boot somebody from a party. And from my experience in all mmos that have a party kick feature, sometimes people just click it instantly with no reason just because, ‘hey, at least it’s not me, right?’
This leads to absolutely no questions, no helping others solve a problem or just downright abusing a system for your own personal reasons.
I propose that this should be changed to make at least 3, but preferably all 4 of the other party members agree before a person gets kicked.
I don’t want to toot my own horn or anything, but I am pretty good at games, I learn quickly and play very actively. It is why I can win most pvp fights even when undergeared/leveled, barring some cheap class matchup/hard counters etc.
I have 4 lvl 80s and am working on the other 4, so when I join an AC exp group on my 40 engineer, and within a fraction of a second the party leader says ‘Oh no way" and im instantly kicked. I just have to message that guy and laugh in his face, as I have been running ac explore on that engi since 31 (below the recommended lvl) and constantly spend time reviving lvl 80s. I swear half or more of all my deaths in dungeons are because im reviving somebody. Point is I didn’t even get a chance to say anything. it was instantaneous. I could have been typing, brb on my 80 warr, or anything. But I didnt even want to be in that group at all anymore, so i just spoke my mind in a whisper to the guy and promptly put him in my block list.Now if it had required the full party to kick me, I could have probably gotten a sentence out before it happened. This irked me, but i shrugged it off. If I had, like alot of other seem to, get kicked at the end of a run, I would be substantially more upset. Now like I said this has not happened to me, usually you don’t kick the guy leading the charge and helping the slow folks with revives and tactics. But you get my point I hope.
TL/DR – Make the whole party accept a request to kick a party member, not just one other person. People click before thinking in most cases.
Couldn’t agree with you more. This happened to me the first time the other day for no legitimate reason whatsoever. It really bothers me that they waited right after the final boss was killed. They need to change the system or I won’t feel comfortable doing dungeons with random players anymore.
keep it as is. there’s times you need it, which far outweigh the trolling/griefing done with it. as it stands you can rid the group of leeches and kitten. don’t kitten with it.
if you need to get rid of a bad player I’m sure that you would be able to get 3 votes as well.
Also, what if there is 2 people kittening up your group? A 4v1 vote won’t work because their friend will just keep hitting decline, 3v2 makes sense and it is a majority vote rather than 2 friends who just decided to kick any member to take the group or make someone miss out on dungeon rewards because it is funny.