Guild Wars 2

One thing that I wanted to bring as a concern is people in a group being cheated from final boss loot. Yesterday i was in a pug group for COF explorable path 1. The battle took some time and was not easy, however near the end I was killed. One individual in the group ran over to rez me before opening the chest. While he was rezzing me the person that started the group left which effectively kicked us all out of the dungeon.

Everyone in the group was upset, I felt bad the person tried to help me but was cheated from the chest as was I.

Could there be an option for all dungeons like the end of a fractal where it asks if all are ready or something?

Another one was while in AC explorable path 2 we finished the second battle then the person that started the dungeon was not there (most likely dc) we rushed to get to the final but were kicked out because it finally timed him out.

Just seems like the group was cheated because of one person.

Or just have it so that if the person who entered the dungeon first leaves, it doesn’t kick everyone else.

It’s a stupid mechanic.

ah yes, the more equals than the equals …. sounds like if you enter first in dungeon, you are king

They know about the problem of ‘instance ownership’ and have been looking into solutions to the problem for a while now. Hopefully, one day, a fix will come along.

Being denied the boss chest because the owner kicks then calls in friends/guildies has happened a few times. If they cant sort out instance ownership then there needs to be a clear report in game messages log of who kicked and who seconded- if its a dc issue from the owner then the log needs to say dungeon failed. owner timeout after xxtime.

There should really be a way to see who is the Party/Dungeon leader and there should be a way to promote someone else to be the Party/Dungeon leader to prevent this kind of thing happening. Having only one person assigned to the instance makes it simple to reset and all but simpler and clearer would be having everyone tied to the current instance and having a “Reset current party instance” option as long as everyone is outside the dungeon. These are things that are common in other MMOs I’ve played. I’m not entirely sure why they’ve set the current awkward system to be as it is… Devs! Hear our pleas, please! :P

This can be quite annoying, as people can just run to the chest and leave. I’m seeing more and more how people rush to the chest before ever considering reviving other party members.

And you can’t really blame the opener, they may have forgotten they were the openers, skipped all the cinematics so they didn’t see themselves on them, and the warning before leaving the dungeon didn’t tell them that they’ll mess up things for the rest.

All I can do myself is also run to the chest, then go revive the others and hope the opener won’t leave, or open the dungeon myself, knowing I won’t do that to them.

so there’s ninja looters in this game too for the dungeons? Good to know in advance

If you are being kicked because a couple of friends are booting you to call in their buddy to get free rewards, that is a reportable offense.

If the dungeon leader leaves or disconnects then the instance closes and everyone is booted. That is just a flaw in the system, and they are looking into ways to fix it such as passing on ownership of the instance.

Gargant.6457:

so there’s ninja looters in this game too for the dungeons? Good to know in advance

It’s not ninja looting. Everyone gets loot from the boss. The issue here is that the instance owner doesn’t wait for everyone else to grab loot before leaving.

I don’t understand? The party leader can leave the instance without booting everyone, it’s only if he leaves the party that people are booted. But really, if he can leave instance, load screen, then leave party before you’ve even gotten to the chest, hurry up. I’ve never seen party leaders instantly leave the party after they grabbed the chest, ever.

Well tbh i have experienced some situations where the party disbanded literally less than a second after I got the chest. If I wasn’t the instance owner, leaving the party within the instance will also return me back to the overworld without affecting the rest of the party (unless there are only 2 left in the party). A shortcut of sorts.

I believe that some impatient instance owners do this without the knowledge that they will cause others to lose their loot (although I also believe there are intentional trolls out there). So if you are the instance owner, do not be in such a hurry to leave the party.