Cliffside - Arms Seals

Cliffside - Arms Seals

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Posted by: PainShot.7154

PainShot.7154

This specific part of fractals and the Grawl boss are the ONLY moments when my party know they lose, and when you know that your party never will do that fotm. 100% of my party disband are because this two specific reasons (DC don’t count).

Im not saying that everytime i play this parts i fail. I completed both several times, even in fotm 20+. What im saying its all the other parts can do it with a few tries with ANY competent party. The grawl boss its not the post topic, but…

The arms seals have a weird mecanic. If you fail the first time (4 normal mobs whitout respawn), you automaticaly will do all the other tries with a LOT more dificulty (7+ mobs with at least 2 vets in every arm with perma respawn).

I try to keep it simple. Please devs, put a “full reset” in this fotm stage. If your party kitten this part and all party members die, reset ALL the stage at the start (4 normal mobs).
Right now, if all party members die, the seals (both…) are healed to max HP and, if you broke one, this one will respawn. BUT both will have the perma 7+ mobs…

Its a simple request, if your party fail the “easy way” dont make this fase (noticeably) harder, keep at same dificulty so we can try some few times and do it eventualy.
To note, I have done this fase in the “hard way”, but if the party its not really good and all (5 members, all of them) know what to do, this fase it’s literaly imposible.
I’m not asking you make easier nothing, just please make this fase reset all its mechanics if party die, not just half of them.

If other players agree with me (reset all fase if you fail) post it so we show the devs this is a legitim claim.

PD1: sry for my english >_<
PD2: by the way, great job in the Cliffside final boss fix. Now it’s a enjoyable and fun fight.

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Posted by: zuldzin.7219

zuldzin.7219

agree with that!

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Posted by: Ari Kagura.9182

Ari Kagura.9182

That particular part of the Cliffside Fractal is quite annoying if the group wipes considering that adds upon adds spawn on top of each other; and if the seal on the Colossus’ right arm is the shielded one, it becomes a hassle to bumrush through the adds, through the tunnel, and to the vulnerable left arm seal so that you can return back for a second attempt.

In short, I agree all those adds should despawn and the right-arm seal should be unshielded like it was in the beginning if the party ends up wiping. That way, it’s much easier to start from scratch if there’s too much of a mess that has been made.

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

I thought this was the entire concept behind checkpoints – the fact that it’s left in the state it was before a wipe is just silly in any situation, IMO.

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Posted by: Strifey.7215

Strifey.7215

Arms seals are so easy if your group uses the proper strategy like you mentioned. Half the battle is communicating to your pug how to do it so you don’t fail the first time. But yes, resetting completely would help when you get those people who can’t follow directions and are terrible.

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Posted by: PainShot.7154

PainShot.7154

Arms seals are so easy if your group uses the proper strategy like you mentioned. Half the battle is communicating to your pug how to do it so you don’t fail the first time. But yes, resetting completely would help when you get those people who can’t follow directions and are terrible.

Totaly agree. If ONE of your party members cant do something as simple as DON’T KILL THE 4ยบ GUY i dont understand why we need to make this fase a lot more dificult in the next tries, AND with at least one player that will never coordinate with the group…
EDIT: i just see the video. A must see to all pugers that don’t know how to pass this part in higher fotm levels.

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