Guild Wars 2

Please fix the cliffside fractal chanters on the two seals that need to be hit back and forth. Even after a party wipe, the chanters that were not suppose to respawn, spawn anyway and that prevents a lot of groups from finishing that fractal. Instead of having the 2 normal chanters at a seal, after a wipe, there are about 8 chanters at each seals. Too many chanters, they heal the seals too fast, they respawn faster than we can run to the other side to charge the hammer to hit the opposite seal. This is just a total mess and it’s frustrating just to fail at cliffside, because the chanters are overwhelming.
I remember reading a patch note saying that the chanters at the seals will be reset to normal after a party wipe, but it failed to do what it was intended and instead of resetting the amount of chanters to 2 it becomes 8 chanters and that makes it impossible to finish. Having waste hours to get here just to wipe and fail makes fractal not even worth doing. It’s just a complete waste of time.

actually its worse.
If you wipe everywhere you trigger full nomber of chanters spawning due to a bug.

A dev is working on the fix and while at it, said that he will change chanters so they reset at 2 per side on party wipe…

So we just need to wait to be fixed.

lol I rather have this stay in so I can find pugs who can’t do it on 3rd fractal and carry them through. however they should make sure that it spawns 8 by default, not after a wipe. are you even 48 op?

pullnointer.1476:

lol I rather have this stay in so I can find pugs who can’t do it on 3rd fractal and carry them through. however they should make sure that it spawns 8 by default, not after a wipe. are you even 48 op?

Being able to carry pugs through this fractal at 48? Please spread your OP method with 8 chanters on each side because I would love to have it. Thanks.

use 3 warriors and 2 guardians

people just can t see the difference between easy professions with easy instances since release…when people started to complete dungeons nobody could with only guardian and warriors.

That only works assuming every pug has a spare warrior or guardian to use. That’s not always the case. Plus, guild wars 2 was designed to be able to use any professions and clear it without the idea of having a tank and healer in a group.

Those chanters just doesn’t follow along with this because they heal the seals too fast for some combination of groups, especially in the higher level fractals.

LordByron.8369:

use 3 warriors and 2 guardians

people just can t see the difference between easy professions with easy instances since release…when people started to complete dungeons nobody could with only guardian and warriors.

2 thieves works too, 2 to perma blind, the other to blind in while invis and beat the seal, shadow return without drawing aggro. After 2 swings, they swap. Back when fractals was new me on thief and my guardian friend were basically duoing 48 since the pugs were generally so bad and would freak the f out if the last chanter died.

Can’t believe people are still crying about this.
If you have one good thief or mesmer, you can easily do this part.

If there’s volunteers, i’d like to record a video from a mesmer’s point of view for the arm seals with respawning chanters.
It takes 5 to 10 minutes depending on how good the rest of the team at preventing the chanters from regenerating the north seal with “my” method.

It’s really fool proof and works even at FotM 50++. It basically involves the Mesmer/Thief to use portal or shadowstep with stealth.

No thank you don t waste your and our time

Its unintended and not even interesting depending on profession spcific mechanics.

Is getting patched anyway….
And i think those sort of posts are more for personal glorification than actual to help, or people would be a little more objective on instances rather than suggesting how to use stuff to avoid mechanics that are not working well.

LordByron.8369:

No thank you don t waste your and our time

How is this “wasting time”? Failing on arm seals and (rage)quitting is wasting time. I’ve seen threads about people not being able to get past the arm seals, no matter what, on and off for close to 9 months now. How’s that wasting time showing people to get past that part without much problems? I’ve probably “wasted” hundreds of hours in and out of the game helping people with different things, be it dungeons, builds and whatever on a rather unrelated note. Also, you don’t speak for everyone, do you?

LordByron.8369:

Its unintended and not even interesting depending on profession spcific mechanics.

If it was unintended, it wouldn’t have been ignored for over 7 months or am i missing things? They fixed a lot of bugs more or less quickly like the svanir boss rock camping, several dredge teleport bugs, mossman tree/underwater cheesing etc.

LordByron.8369:

Is getting patched anyway….

Cool, saves me 10 to 30 minutes in crappy fractal pugs.

LordByron.8369:

And i think those sort of posts are more for personal glorification than actual to help, or people would be a little more objective on instances rather than suggesting how to use stuff to avoid mechanics that are not working well.

I’m sorry, are you implying i made my post only to collect e-fame and make myself look good? Instead of finding ways to get past hard content by using different profession mechanics, you’d rather want to cry enough so that the devs change it to make it more 3/4 war+2/1 guardian friendly? <- This is what i understood from your post

Emanuel.9781:

LordByron.8369:

Its unintended and not even interesting depending on profession spcific mechanics.

If it was unintended, it wouldn’t have been ignored for over 7 months or am i missing things? They fixed a lot of bugs more or less quickly like the svanir boss rock camping, several dredge teleport bugs, mossman tree/underwater cheesing etc.

You are missing lot of things.
Mostly you judge Others without knowing anything about them.
I have 300+ pristines and 1,5 bank slots full of skins…. i m not telling anyone not even level 1 players to L2P and stuff.

I have a mesmer to bypass dredge yet i am the first to say the stage should be changed asap.

I’m sorry, are you implying i made my post only to collect e-fame and make myself look good? Instead of finding ways to get past hard content by using different profession mechanics, you’d rather want to cry enough so that the devs change it to make it more 3/4 war+2/1 guardian friendly? <- This is what i understood from your post

No? really?

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

The posts above are correct, the entire group of chanters is respawning after a wipe at any point. I’m going to change it so that only the 2 initial chanters will respawn on a wipe, and the larger group will spawn once the first 2 are killed. (As it used to work, except that the 2 chanters will reset after a wipe.)

don t accuse people of whining if you are clueless on something please….
We found the issue and obtained a fix making the game better for everyone

You accused me of QQ instead.
And a big “L2P i m pro” post……

LordByron.8369:

No thank you don t waste your and our time

Its unintended and not even interesting depending on profession spcific mechanics.

Is getting patched anyway….
And i think those sort of posts are more for personal glorification than actual to help, or people would be a little more objective on instances rather than suggesting how to use stuff to avoid mechanics that are not working well.

Sounds like something someone who doesn’t want to learn would say.

I just wish they would fix this soon, so pug groups (they already take forever to finish in some cases) would come to cliffside and be content knowing that they will not worry about failing and wasting their time.

Wicked Rin.1972:

I just wish they would fix this soon, so pug groups (they already take forever to finish in some cases) would come to cliffside and be content knowing that they will not worry about failing and wasting their time.

actually I’d like more of this please. you can already cp if you wipe, how much more pugfriendly do you want this game to be?

randomfightfan.4091:

LordByron.8369:

No thank you don t waste your and our time

Its unintended and not even interesting depending on profession spcific mechanics.

Is getting patched anyway….
And i think those sort of posts are more for personal glorification than actual to help, or people would be a little more objective on instances rather than suggesting how to use stuff to avoid mechanics that are not working well.

Sounds like something someone who doesn’t want to learn would say.

don’t bash lord byron, he has 300+ pristines!!! :<

LordByron.8369:

depending on profession spcific mechanics.

it isn’t.

pullnointer.1476:

Wicked Rin.1972:

I just wish they would fix this soon, so pug groups (they already take forever to finish in some cases) would come to cliffside and be content knowing that they will not worry about failing and wasting their time.

actually I’d like more of this please. you can already cp if you wipe, how much more pugfriendly do you want this game to be?

This is more about saving the time of people that do fractal than to be pugfriendly. Fractal is not even pug friendly at all. Pug groups take longer than well organized guild/friend groups. Not everyone has the option to ask guildies to come do fractal with them and they’ll have a party going.

Having to run this fractal for 2-3 hours just to reach this point and wipe with an almost impossible task to finish cliffside afterwards is ridiculous. I’ll rather be able to finish a fractal I started than to be thinking 2 hours later that I could’ve done something else. I’ve wiped a decent amount of time on this fractal and ended my run enough time for me to get to the point where I have to post this. I’m tired of the patch that never worked.

The best part is pretending this has something to do with “skill”.

Its not.
And i can t see what an high level fractal player would gain from pugs failing at 10-20 because of this….

nobody will fail at 30-48….

LordByron.8369:

nobody will fail at 30-48….

You haven’t seen true horror yet.

LordByron.8369:

The best part is pretending this has something to do with “skill”.

Its not.
And i can t see what an high level fractal player would gain from pugs failing at 10-20 because of this….

nobody will fail at 30-48….

Lol ya right, all it takes is one mistake and a few bleeding heart players to rez at the wrong time and now the party is wiped. All it takes is one party wipe before arm seals to trigger this bug AFAIK. It’s such a risk that we do not PUG fotm now.

Wicked Rin.1972:

pullnointer.1476:

Wicked Rin.1972:

I just wish they would fix this soon, so pug groups (they already take forever to finish in some cases) would come to cliffside and be content knowing that they will not worry about failing and wasting their time.

actually I’d like more of this please. you can already cp if you wipe, how much more pugfriendly do you want this game to be?

This is more about saving the time of people that do fractal than to be pugfriendly. Fractal is not even pug friendly at all. Pug groups take longer than well organized guild/friend groups. Not everyone has the option to ask guildies to come do fractal with them and they’ll have a party going.

Having to run this fractal for 2-3 hours just to reach this point and wipe with an almost impossible task to finish cliffside afterwards is ridiculous. I’ll rather be able to finish a fractal I started than to be thinking 2 hours later that I could’ve done something else. I’ve wiped a decent amount of time on this fractal and ended my run enough time for me to get to the point where I have to post this. I’m tired of the patch that never worked.

it’s actually very easy. I’ve done it 4man, I’ve done it in the most braindead pug ever, what are you complaining about?

pugs take longer than organized groups = not pugfriendly? are you for real? 2-3 hours?:D

pullnointer.1476:

it’s actually very easy. I’ve done it 4man, I’ve done it in the most braindead pug ever, what are you complaining about?

pugs take longer than organized groups = not pugfriendly? are you for real? 2-3 hours?:D

I don’t care how you do fractals. Chanters still need to be fixed, because anet’s patch didn’t work the way they thought it would.

Wicked Rin.1972:

pullnointer.1476:

it’s actually very easy. I’ve done it 4man, I’ve done it in the most braindead pug ever, what are you complaining about?

pugs take longer than organized groups = not pugfriendly? are you for real? 2-3 hours?:D

I don’t care how you do fractals. Chanters still need to be fixed, because anet’s patch didn’t work the way they thought it would.

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