Q:
Cliffside fractal (hammer) - give advice pls
It’s surely possible, you just have to keep one side active, so they cant heal the seal, you should have about 3 people constantly fighting and pulling the mobs into the hallway on 1 side, the other 2 people should take the hammer and run from side to side while charging the hammer at the location of the other 3. For the running it would be smart to choose either guardians or thieves, but on your level its fine as long as there is 1 person who can distract the mobs when the other runs in. This way you’ll take one seal down slowly, while the other remains getting healed. after 1 is down its a piece of cake.
1st get rid of your friend – it is not even close to imbossible it is just a bit more challenging.
Actual tip: leave 1 Enchanter on 1 side alive, so this seal doesnt regenerate health fast and it is actually easy to kill. Once you are done with this seal bother with the other one.
Personally is this stage much easier on high lvl than that one stupid seal where you have those firecircles and all the veterans spawning…
[SWAG]Izze
Frostfang, Howler, 2x Sunrise, Predator, Kamohoali’ Kotaki
1st get rid of your friend – it is not even close to imbossible it is just a bit more challenging.
Actual tip: leave 1 Enchanter on 1 side alive, so this seal doesnt regenerate health fast and it is actually easy to kill. Once you are done with this seal bother with the other one.
Personally is this stage much easier on high lvl than that one stupid seal where you have those firecircles and all the veterans spawning…
It cant be done because after wipe the mobs are constantly spawning so maybe after 30 sec the new mobs will come to the 1 alive.
1st get rid of your friend – it is not even close to imbossible it is just a bit more challenging.
Actual tip: leave 1 Enchanter on 1 side alive, so this seal doesnt regenerate health fast and it is actually easy to kill. Once you are done with this seal bother with the other one.
Personally is this stage much easier on high lvl than that one stupid seal where you have those firecircles and all the veterans spawning…
they’ve already taken down all chanters on both sides, and if its a guildrun it would be kinda mean to get rid of someone if he’s just a bit less experienced/competent, but yes next time they start they should try and keep 1 alive.
2nd advice after you broke the 1 rule there:
stack on the right seal behind the wall, keep aggroing the chanters and hit the seals after it is done. Takes it bit more time than usual because the seals will regenerate health a bit more so you need 5-6 hits instead of 3-4 but it is still a walk in the park.
[SWAG]Izze
Frostfang, Howler, 2x Sunrise, Predator, Kamohoali’ Kotaki
It is very possible to do. It just takes a bit more organisation.
You set up at the corner of the corridor, and you pull the mobs from that side constantly into the corridor. You will need one person that is really good at agroing mobs and getting back to safety, I normally do this job when I’m on my Tanky D/D Ele as if I make a mistake and go down, I can still mistform back to the group. They will need to keep an eye out for mobs spawning and run in there to pick them up before they start repairing the seal.
So you have one side which is being constantly agro’d and pulled into the corridor. Therefore will not fix the seal. You have most of the team just behind the corner DPSing down mobs that come in. What you now need is two people that can take it in turns to run the hammer to the other end.
I have done it 2 or 3 times at level 38 when teams mess up. You can normally do it first time if people Keep Calm.
It is very possible to do. It just takes a bit more organisation.
You set up at the corner of the corridor, and you pull the mobs from that side constantly into the corridor. You will need one person that is really good at agroing mobs and getting back to safety, I normally do this job when I’m on my Tanky D/D Ele as if I make a mistake and go down, I can still mistform back to the group. They will need to keep an eye out for mobs spawning and run in there to pick them up before they start repairing the seal.
So you have one side which is being constantly agro’d and pulled into the corridor. Therefore will not fix the seal. You have most of the team just behind the corner DPSing down mobs that come in. What you now need is two people that can take it in turns to run the hammer to the other end.
I have done it 2 or 3 times at level 38 when teams mess up. You can normally do it first time if people Keep Calm.
1) D/D ele is uberbad here.
2) S/F somehow works (DT, swirling, earth 4-5)
3) you probably had some guardians/warriors
4) if you die you lose time, and thus at lvl 38 with both sides alive seals almost resets each single deaths.
5) at 38 a “tanky” elementalist is not a good choice…knight/zerker are way better.
i.e. you can do it but you need guardians and warriors…and 0 room for mistakes and fast execution:
1 mistake = seal almost resets
Thus impossible for pugs
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Good technique to learn is LoS pulling.
The concept of LoS pulling is to aggro an enemy, then turn into a corner where he can’t range you, so he has no choice but to run up around the corner where he can see you again. When you aggro multiple enemies like that, they will naturally stack up at the point where they reach the corner.
Keep this technique in mind and focus on LoS pulling 1 side of the Seal (The side where you killed both starting Chanters.) Have 2 designated runners (people who can take some hits or people who can stealth) to handle running hammers back and forth. Whenever you hit a seal, run back to where the group is stacked and drop the hammer for the next person, they will then get the Hammer proc off one of the LoS enemies that are constantly being killed.
1) D/D ele is uberbad here.
2) S/F somehow works (DT, swirling, earth 4-5)
3) you probably had some guardians/warriors
4) if you die you lose time, and thus at lvl 38 with both sides alive seals almost resets each single deaths.
5) at 38 a “tanky” elementalist is not a good choice…knight/zerker are way better.i.e. you can do it but you need guardians and warriors…and 0 room for mistakes and fast execution:
1 mistake = seal almost resetsThus impossible for pugs
Well, obviously it must be bad for this. I mean it’s not like I’ve done it with pugs multiple times with this set up. it does the job very well. The teams were not all Zerk Warriors, they were a real mix. It’s important to pick up the mobs from the platform, this means you have to get onto the platform, pick up agro from all the mobs and get back.
A tanky Ele can do this well, it has multiple ways of blocking mobs, and keep it self up. Being downed is bad, but I rarely get downed doing this. Having a Mistform if you do go down means that no-one needs to come onto the platform to get you up (which is generally death and leads to a failed attempt), you can just fly back to the team and get rezed. Scepter/Focus is not a bad choice, the extra Invulnerability and Swirling wind is nice. But personally I just find it a bit less responsive, it’s doesn’t feel as good for rounding up mobs, it can’t cleanse the vulnerability stacks as well, and it’s lacking the mobility of D/D. I think it’s more a matter of taste both work OK here. I definitely wouldn’t run Staff.
Doing this job with a Warrior or a Guard is so much harder. What does a Zerk Warrior have to keep him alive when he is trying to round up these mobs (you do have to get quite far onto the platform to get mobs that spawn on the other side of the seal), a Guard has better chances. But if either goes down it’s a failed attempt most of the time.
BUT I obviously don’t know what I’m talking about. It’s not like I’ve had to do this with pugs multiple times, (I’ve had to come in a few times to help friends whose pugs have failed this, and normally we do it 1st time). I mean low betide anyone that suggests any class has something to offer that a Zerk Warrior doesn’t.
(Oh. yeah by Tanky I don’t mean full P/V/T. I run Knights gear, Zerk Weapons and Celestial Jewels, but I do run tank/support traits.)
(edited by Ratty.5176)