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CoF Farm - Dps Warriors Only Out of Hand
I think, you should go ahead and read the other 5 exactly similar topic right in the front page of this sub forum.
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I think people are allowed to play how they want and that you don’t have the right to stop them from doing so. Just make your own LFG and take all the people not running in the warrior group.
I think this is gonna get the kitten nerfed out of it. All this is going to lead to is diminishing returns lasting several hours instead of 30 minutes.
I think this is gonna get the kitten nerfed out of it. All this is going to lead to is diminishing returns lasting several hours instead of 30 minutes.
Either this or the path gets buffed so that full glass cannons receive greater punishment.
thats like saying nerf healing eles because they heal too much. thats what warriors do, DPS. without their DPS, i dont think id want to play mine. it just so happens that DPS is the key to 1 path in 1 dungeon out of the entire game. sounds normal
Yes, people should be allowed to play how they want. Why not set up your own group and invite everyone and not exclude anyone?
I find it weird other class isn’t even trying to form a speed run group. I tried looking around on gwlfg, and there’s only memser/warrior.
There are 6 other class. Even if they do it a bit slower, shouldn’t they at least try to form a group?
I want to do speed run on my other character too, but apparently there isn’t any available most of the time.
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ive seen a group without a heavy class do p1, and Slave Driver rips everyone to shreds.
ive seen a group without a heavy class do p1, and Slave Driver rips everyone to shreds.
Warriors only take 16% less damage than scholar professions, just so you know.
If you guys use gw2lfg you would notice that more and more people only look for full dps warriors and a mesmer for CoF path 1. To me I find this not only irritating but it ruins the whole dungeon experience for everyone else.
I’d say most people are happy with that. Also you missed the part, where you tell us what gives you the right to decide how others should play.
Agree, they should nerf this path to smithereens or at least make it more difficult for those pro speed running teams.
Agree, they should nerf this path to smithereens or at least make it more difficult for those pro speed running teams.
Why though?
its not the path…
Heavy armors have reserved spots in almost any pug Group…
Be that because its easier to survive even if you are not good, be that for any reason, the fact is warrior are overefficient in PVE…or just other classes (xcept guardians) cannot keep up as easily…..
Skill is still a factor, but at a mid level of skill some professions are clearly over the top.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Why though?
Because 6 minutes path is a joke.
Make all cutscenes unskippable. This will solve 6 min runs :P
I believe path 1 AC could compare to CoF path1 but people drag it out. CoF p1 is a very sophisticed tactical run, with multiple skips.
In AC the following CAN be skipped but are commonly fought, if these were skipping like CoF, the run would be signifiicantly shorter. Not the same as CoF, but still a decent time.
Skippable:
1. Spider Queen
2. Gravelings in the Trap Hallway
3. Kholer
4. All the gravelings heading to the boss
Id guess Spider Queen adds about 5 mins. Gravelings add like 3 minutes. Kholer adds 5 minutes or more if fail and the mini-champ gravelings add like 2 minutes. All in all, these little bosses probaly take around the same time the actual path takes.
CoF is just more organized and pre-set. If it were randomly pugged, the times would be significantly longer. People will just pick a new dungeon if its nerfed, this is just the most convienent. However, I believe AC would still fall under peoples defintion of speed farming
I believe path 1 AC could compare to CoF path1 but people drag it out. CoF p1 is a very sophisticed tactical run, with multiple skips.
In AC the following CAN be skipped but are commonly fought, if these were skipping like CoF, the run would be signifiicantly shorter. Not the same as CoF, but still a decent time.
Skippable:
1. Spider Queen
2. Gravelings in the Trap Hallway
3. Kholer
4. All the gravelings heading to the bossId guess Spider Queen adds about 5 mins. Gravelings add like 3 minutes. Kholer adds 5 minutes or more if fail and the mini-champ gravelings add like 2 minutes. All in all, these little bosses probaly take around the same time the actual path takes.
CoF is just more organized and pre-set. If it were randomly pugged, the times would be significantly longer. People will just pick a new dungeon if its nerfed, this is just the most convienent. However, I believe AC would still fall under peoples defintion of speed farming
Sophisticated run? Get me those mushrooms. CoF p1 can be done in 9 minutes without skipping anything. Spider Queen 5 minutes? Kholer 5 minutes? Please tell me you’re throwing arbitrary numbers. You kill lupicus faster.
CoF p1 is a very sophisticed tactical run, with multiple skips.
You skip the bridge event. So not really multiple skips. Also I wouldn’t find “dps the boss until it dies” a sophisticated tactic.
You skip the bridge event. So not really multiple skips. Also I wouldn’t find “dps the boss until it dies” a sophisticated tactic.
Taking stability for final boss makes it sophisticated, aye?
You skip the bridge event. So not really multiple skips. Also I wouldn’t find “dps the boss until it dies” a sophisticated tactic.
Taking stability for final boss makes it sophisticated, aye?
Haven’t seen a lot of people who do that. It’s more like “wait for first kd before casting time warp”
The problem is – this path got nerfed TOO HARD.
Last boss used to be 20 times harder, however tactic remained the same – simply dps the kitten out of him.
In my experience looking at the lfg site, only speed farming groups request certain professions. There are usually also plenty of lfg/lfms out there to do the run at a regular pace. If you don’t see such a post, start one. I do both speed farming and regular runs and have never had a problem finding either one when the mood strikes me.
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Just saw this post for CoF recently:
“LF4M MASMER GURDAN WARIOR ONLY FOR FARM REQUIREMENTS R ZERK GEAR 5000 ACHIEVEMENT POINTS U MUST UHAVE DONE COF AT LEAST 100 TIMES!!!! NO NOOBS WARIOR NID HIGHEST DPS POSIBLE FIRST BOSS VRY HARD”
To top it off, the poster’s name had a bunch of “decorative” X’s in it….
There’s a good reason people are telling you to ignore these groups looking for specifics and create/join more welcoming groups, if that’s what you’re after.
working as intended. Anet loves warriors and they are the most OP and unbalanced class in game. I dont blame people for asking that only certain people apply.
Blame Anet and their crap management and balance of the game.
PS
Please ban thieves from dungeons and make the monthly never include dungeons.
thankyou.
" but it ruins the whole dungeon experience for everyone else"
Why? What prevents you from doing it your way?
Stop worrying about what others do and focus on yourself.
Anet make Rev great again.
if you looking for speed runs… war/mes is the best of course there will be more people
running those. however if u want to do it with mixed group look for those posted
p1 and p2 runs.
I think this is gonna get the kitten nerfed out of it. All this is going to lead to is diminishing returns lasting several hours instead of 30 minutes.
Either this or the path gets buffed so that full glass cannons receive greater punishment.
Punishing glass cannon is functionally the same as also punishing newer players without all exotic gear. They need to consider all the consequences before going in that direction.
Reminds me of old GW1 IWAY groups. You could spend an incredible amount of time constructing a build that synergizes well and pressures effectively, or you could all roll W/R and faceroll the keyboard.
Reminds me of old IWAY groups. You could spend an incredible amount of time constructing a build that synergizes well and pressures effectively, or you could all roll W/R and faceroll the keyboard.
IWAY build had a note of synergy!
I think speedruns with full dps teams are the option to earn good money with dungeons. If you aren’t skipping and doing as much damage as possible, the reward given for a 1 hour dungeon is simply a joke. Also for this reason exploits will always be used to skip content. Second reason could be the missing difficulty in the game, even solo’ing CoF Path 1 without the Event where you need 4 players to break through the door is easy, just as many other dungeons. Its always hit, hit, hit, hit, see boss using a skill, dodge, hit, hit, hit..
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Just start a group saying “LFM CoF, everyone welcome” on gw2lfg and I’m sure all those non warrior/mesmers that want to play will join you instead.
If you guys use gw2lfg you would notice that more and more people only look for full dps warriors and a mesmer for CoF path 1. To me I find this not only irritating but it ruins the whole dungeon experience for everyone else. I feel this situation is taking the dungeon community in the wrong direction. Idk maybe I’m just stupid, let me know what you guys think.
It’s only for speed runs, with 4 warriors and a mesmer it takes like 6 minutes to do it.
You can definitely find a group that don’t do the most efficient speed runs.
Even with my full dps guardian I was able to do it in 6 mins tho.
If you guys use gw2lfg you would notice that more and more people only look for full dps warriors and a mesmer for CoF path 1. To me I find this not only irritating but it ruins the whole dungeon experience for everyone else. I feel this situation is taking the dungeon community in the wrong direction. Idk maybe I’m just stupid, let me know what you guys think.
Let them do what they want and you do what you want… I’ve no idea how this ruins the whole dungeon experience for “everyone else”; play with friends, guildies, or create your own group and ask for other professions….and just taking a look at gw2lfg now, I see quite a number of posts where people aren’t specifying warriors and mesmer only….