Guild Wars 2

Hello Adventures,

I know there may be a gnashing of teeth if you just read “CoF Farm runs”, but since it’s the best way to get money, I’m doing it atleast an hour a day. It’s fun for me, but those groups drive me crazy.

You always read “Gear Check, No noob or else kick, Speedrun” and that Stuff. Of course 4 Zerker Warriors and a Mesmer is a must have, but does it have to be so serious that I feel like I’m in a military academy?

No! I want to have fun, fun with other people just farming a bit, and for that I search People with:

Time and Patience, I don’t want anybody get flamed for a mistake they made and
Humour, I want to have fun as I said, so bring a good bottle of it.
After all it’s a game, and a game shouldn’t be treated like it’s work, so we won’t do speedruns, we will do it as fast was we are able to.

If you find yourself suitable and also searching for a group like this, You have a warrior skilled on berserker or a mesmer, feel free to contact me ingame, EU only since it doesn’t work over continents (sadly).

Looking forward to see you mighty adventures on the fields of Fireheart Rise!

I agree with you on most of your points. 4 zerk wars and a zerk mes is the optimal build for this dungeon atm, but I dont agree that it is a MUST. Any group can run cof with ease and only slightly less fast than a full zerk group.

In gw1 the elite areas were almost always made up of a set team of classes that worked well in unison to complete the area and were able to do so because of their (mostly) unique class skills and skill categories. It was accepted because mismatched teams simply couldn’t compete with the speed of these specifically formed teams at all.

But in gw2 this isn’t the case. All classes can mostly perform the same duties as the others (of course some classes are better at some things than others). In gw1 the speed clear groups were almost completely dependent on everyone fulfilling their role correctly, or it could cause a chain reaction that would fail the whole team, which was the source of nearly all the ‘raging’ and quitters in those runs.

Gw2 works differently though, if someone fails the team you can all just res and take a small setback but still continue with little consequence (no death penalty is much more forgiving as well).

What I’m trying to get at is while dungeons can be difficult if you’re not 100% sure what to do, its so much easier and quicker for people to always work WITH the team rather than against, which is what Justdeifyme is saying too. Would you rather kick someone who’s died a couple times, or didn’t use an exact skill at exactly the right time (seriously?? this has happened to me) and find someone to take their place who may have to warp over and load the dungeon, run to the group if wp isn’t available, etc?

People need to ditch their elitist attitudes and realize it’s just a dungeon (and a very quick one no matter what group you run) and focus on making it fun as well as profitable instead of just the latter.

Nikaido.3457:

Me Kill You.9035:

People need to ditch their elitist attitudes and realize it’s just a dungeon (and a very quick one no matter what group you run) and focus on making it fun as well as profitable instead of just the latter.

But it is fun and profitable to do speedclear inside optimized groups. That’s why I joined a guild dedicated to that in the first place when I got the opportunity to.

What is not fun is running in groups with a lot of people wearing full PVT and some other trash builds that have no place in PVE. CoF is the only dungeon that is even remotely fun to pug, because even if you’re pugging with bad players chances are they’re running better than average builds and gear and the runs are like clockwork.

Let me give an example in Ascalonian Catacombs, optimized vs PVT kittens :
The very few times I’ve had optimized groups running full berserker, we killed the boss in the new AC before the new mechanics introduced even started to matter. In path 1, the boss dies before the adds attack you.
Join any random pug, do path 1, be ready to kite adds toward the circle of fires.

I hate CoF – the dungeon. I don’t find running it fun. I do like the pugging culture around it though, and wish it would spread to other dungeons, particularly AC since it’s one people in my guild and friendlist aren’t running much (we mostly do CoE/Arah/FOTM).

CoF has the best pugging culture in the game. It’s just too sad that these players are not seeing the potential of having an actual pugging culture for other dungeons.

Ya you are right, if you can fill an optimal role and do it well while having fun, more power to you. I was just in a CoF run on my mes and after 3 of the not-so-great zerk wars died on the last boss and me and the last war managed to bring him down from 20% health in under 3 mins, I do consider that fun and pretty exhilirating (also bringing shouts of how OP mesmer is ofc, as well)

And I agree people need to take the popularity of these speed runs in CoF and apply it to other dungeons as well. Some like to run CoE and while I dont have as much exp on that one, I understand its comparably profitable to cof assuming you have good luck with chests/drops.

Unfortunately anet made the difficulty of different dungeons/path wildly out of sync which is unfortunate and I / we can only hope that they are adjusted in the future so that people like to play them all

I didn’t want to start a discussion here, but as it already started, I may take part in it aswell.
I’m not into the mechanics of the game, so I can’t tell what build is most efficient, what you have to pick and what you need to do, to be fast and efficient. But I don’t even want to be that. Of course I don’t want to spend most of the time reviving People at the bossfight because they can’t dodge, but also it isn’t fun for me to run with a group full of “Pros” who sucked out the last bit of strategy out of the mechanics to create the most efficient way to solve the problem. I want to do it my way. Fast and Fun. Being as efficent as a fun group can be.

This applies on other dungeons too. If I wouldn’t get groups for my first time dungeons who skip everything to save time, I would kill all monsters, explore everything and solve bossfights without a guide. With the current community I have to read guides to not get flamed in groups, skip the cutscenes and run as fast as I can, because I have to be “efficient”. It’s like every player is a little asura, Efficiency over all. But Efficiency isn’t fun for me.

But after all it is fun melting down boss in a few minutes, even if it shouldn’t be, CoF is a great way to get newcomers started for dungeons because it is that easy.
I am not expierenced enough to have a solid opinion about the dungeons, they are fun to me, but even more fun with the right people, thats why I’m searching.

Well, in most dungeons groups are not as strict as to what classes they want to bring in, if you are good at your class and can play/dodge well then you will be accepted by most groups, CoF is a great exception.

And the fact is you can still play any class in CoF because not all groups are the zerker ones, they’re just the majority. I agree that running with people who know what theyre doing and aren’t dying much but are cool about people making mistakes and aren’t elitist is the way to go

Me Kill You.9035:

I agree that running with people who know what theyre doing and aren’t dying much but are cool about people making mistakes and aren’t elitist is the way to go

If you’re still dying in CoF path 1 at this stage of the game you deserve to be given a hard time.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Me Kill You.9035:

I agree that running with people who know what theyre doing and aren’t dying much but are cool about people making mistakes and aren’t elitist is the way to go

If you’re still dying in CoF path 1 at this stage of the game you deserve to be given a hard time.

There are still a lot of new players. It seems many of them are getting their warriors to 80 and jumping straight into the CoF farm. I’ve been seeing a lot of warriors with 1000 or less achievement points lately. Can’t say I blame them at all. But it’s ending up with worse pug runs lately. My warrior and the mesmer have been duo’ing the Effigy more times than I care to count lately. It’s not a good sign when Time Warp and Warbanner are both off cooldown for the Slave Driver every run. I’m glad they’re finally starting to bring axe though.