Guild Wars 2

Ok can someone explain what were ANet thinking when designing this fractal. How are we supposed to do this on higher lvls.
The players have this chance to leave one mob alive in one room and if this one mob somehow gets killed by accident the party is screwed. We just went with a thief, engi, guardian and two wars on lvl28 and could do it cos the mob from room 1 chased us all the way to room 2 and died there cos we lost the mark on him.
How the kitten are we supposed to do this fractal. I’ve never seen a party finish this if the strategy with leaving a mob alive fails.
Does anyone has any tips what to do to make this fractal actually possible cos right now i feel that if we dont exploit the “leave one mob alive” we cant win no matter what classes we have in the party.
Should we try 5 mesmers with portals or what?

Don’t let one live: let the two of them.

If you still fail, focus on one side and farm it by always aggroing all the mobs of that side, reducing the heal they perform on the seal. While you aggro one side, continue hitting left and right normally. The other side will heal but after a while, the chosen side will be destroyed and then you can focus on the other side completely.

Yes but if we focus one side and we all kill mobs there the other seal regens. If we stay behind to kill the mobs and one man runs to the other seal to hit it with the hammer he dies cos of the OP mobs that wait for him. How do we focus and side and continue working on the seals?

That’s the point, let the other seal regen. And the hammer runner must be good enough to avoid most of the attacks (dodge, stability, invisibility, etc.)

That’s the way. I once tried 30+. It wasn’t pretty, but it can be done. Let a guardian run hammer, with more defensive gear if possible to change.

I did a legit 28 run recently.

Tell your team to STOP being wussies with PVT gear, bring zerker, bring speed boosts, and just run left and right from each seal.

I’m pretty sure ANET tested this out the legit way on level 38 FoTM.

Really gear is not an issue with this part. PVT or zerker. Its not difficult to kill the chanters on a stack in the hallway. I do it on my own its so easy. The squishies all stand behind me and drop aoe or boons. Fror’s strategy is the most common when teams fail with the original plan.

Ok so one thing I get is we need to plan our party. Not any class combo can beat this fractal on higher lvls. So balanced party is something I should look for.
Now lets talk gear. What is zerker gear? I gues that PVT stands for Power Vit and Toghness.
My armor set is full Berserker’s with Ruby Orbs in the slots and my jewellry is with power toughness and vit.
I have a total of 2100 Power 1400 Precision 1300 Toghness 1470 Vit and 47 Crit Dmg on my Granade engi. So are those stats ok for fractals lvl 20-30. I have 20 AR and planing to get more in the future.

I went the opposite direction. All my trinkets and rings are either celestial or zerker with PVT armor. My opinion is 3000 plus power is something to go for without losing too much from your defense. My defense is at 1400. Build 20/30/0/0/30

with only 20 on my explosives my grenade dmg would go down by alot. And by defense at 1400 do you mean your armor or your toghness?

I’m not sure if this is still in the game but there’s a thief build thats more or less perma dodge. Worked in spvp so why not fractals? Let him distract the mobs so they don’t heal seal.

You need to pick a side and line of sight them to pull them together. This is a concept that only 1% of players seem to grasp. We got stuck and were able to beat it.

We had a guardian LoS one side a d focus on keeping them away from the seal. This was the one we were trying to burn down. The four of us would charge the hammer and go from side to side breaking the seals. We were not concerned if the other side healed. We would aid the guardian if needed. You also must protect whoever is running the hammer.

This just requires more coordination that your average pug isn’t capable of.

I dont think I understand what the guardian did. Are you talking about the strategy where you pull the mobs in the corner of the coridor?
And how was the guardian taking all the dmg while the other four went from side to side. All guardians I’ve seen die as quickly as I do

Don t worry

There is a huge worse bug in this fractal.

some weeks ago a dev noticed and said that while he is at it he would change it so on wipe arm seal reset to 2 chanters.

The question is only one now:
When?

(when its ready)

LordByron.8369:

Don t worry

There is a huge worse bug in this fractal.

some weeks ago a dev noticed and said that while he is at it he would change it so on wipe arm seal reset to 2 chanters.

The question is only one now:
When?

(when its ready)

Just do it right the first time and it wont matter

I just hope that it doesnt get from close to imposible to very easy

The cliffside fractal is quite easy to complete, I have done it at least 2 dozen times at 48 and 3 times at that level where someone messes up and kills the target. You just have to have a few zerker wars and be quick.

pugs, both side killed, 2 heavies, done it multiple times, 38 48

I don’t really get all the fuss about this, I’m level 28 and actually like it when I get this fractal but it’s a little bit too long, other than that it’s very easy, I also pug all the time.

zerotwo.4731:

LordByron.8369:

Don t worry

There is a huge worse bug in this fractal.

some weeks ago a dev noticed and said that while he is at it he would change it so on wipe arm seal reset to 2 chanters.

The question is only one now:
When?

(when its ready)

Just do it right the first time and it wont matter

if you die at ANY part of the stage currently. all adept at arm seals spawns even if you never killed any.

considering the 1st boss that can oneshot you through reflect at 1200 with an invisible attack, at higher levels its quite an issue.

You had a thief. Smoke Screen + Black Powder wins that part if your thief isn’t redundant.

Stay on one side, keep luring the mobs with 4 players behind the pillar and blindspam them to death. One runs to the other seal and stealths back with Shadow Refuge to drop mobs. Did it while accidentally killing the 2 chanters at L38. If you can keep the mobs on only one side from repairing the seal (by luring them as they spawn), that seal will go down eventually and the rest is easy.

LordByron.8369:

zerotwo.4731:

LordByron.8369:

Don t worry

There is a huge worse bug in this fractal.

some weeks ago a dev noticed and said that while he is at it he would change it so on wipe arm seal reset to 2 chanters.

The question is only one now:
When?

(when its ready)

Just do it right the first time and it wont matter

if you die at ANY part of the stage currently. all adept at arm seals spawns even if you never killed any.

considering the 1st boss that can oneshot you through reflect at 1200 with an invisible attack, at higher levels its quite an issue.

Look at his animations and dodge at right time.

Wethospu.6437:

LordByron.8369:

zerotwo.4731:

LordByron.8369:

Don t worry

There is a huge worse bug in this fractal.

some weeks ago a dev noticed and said that while he is at it he would change it so on wipe arm seal reset to 2 chanters.

The question is only one now:
When?

(when its ready)

Just do it right the first time and it wont matter

if you die at ANY part of the stage currently. all adept at arm seals spawns even if you never killed any.

considering the 1st boss that can oneshot you through reflect at 1200 with an invisible attack, at higher levels its quite an issue.

Look at his animations and dodge at right time.

it hits before animation….

Also why on earth should i be hit at 1200 from an invisible attack?
Does the animation suggest i should be hit? not at all

So why on earth should i evade?

Its a bug…so we should not accept it.

It will probably easier if you just dodge it. You need to actually watch Archdiviner and what he does, when purple projectiles are in the air it’s too late.

it doesn t hit 360° it has target and its a melee range possibly messed UP to 1200 range.

Should be fixed….not justyfied :|
With little lag is just IMPOSSIBLE to evade.
Expecially if somehow servers are involved.

Either the game uses US servers (thus is harder for EU players) or it works in istances hosted by players then you are in the hands of the host.

It just need to be fixed.

LordByron.8369:

it doesn t hit 360° it has target and its a melee range possibly messed UP to 1200 range.

Should be fixed….not justyfied :|
With little lag is just IMPOSSIBLE to evade.
Expecially if somehow servers are involved.

Either the game uses US servers (thus is harder for EU players) or it works in istances hosted by players then you are in the hands of the host.

It just need to be fixed.

I think we have different definition of word impossible.

I can dodge Arches spin attack. You have a small window to avoid it but it is not impossible.

zerotwo.4731:

I can dodge Arches spin attack. You have a small window to avoid it but it is not impossible.

As a guardian, I do love putting a wall of reflection right on him when he does that, watch that damage goes. Justice is served.
p.s. Shield #5 also useful in this case.