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Posted by: Curo.2483

Curo.2483

Even if you are not abusing some game mechanic, controlling aggro is always a good thing. Stacking in a corner assures that you know exactly where all the mobs will be and where your attacks will push them. It’s easier to concentrate fire, and you don’t risk them spreading out and being difficult to cleave/AoE. It also means that you can reliably use wall of reflection to lock out all projectiles because they are all coming from the same direction. Also there are certain places where pushing mobs into a wall changes their behaviour and they become less threatening. As well, corner stacks are very reliable for pulling ranged mobs into the stack with melee mobs (due to line of sight). Finally, an open field stack is never as tight as a corner stack, making it harder to use small-size AoE’s.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

Even if you are not abusing some game mechanic, controlling aggro is always a good thing. Stacking in a corner assures that you know exactly where all the mobs will be and where your attacks will push them. It’s easier to concentrate fire, and you don’t risk them spreading out and being difficult to cleave/AoE. It also means that you can reliably use wall of reflection to lock out all projectiles because they are all coming from the same direction. Also there are certain places where pushing mobs into a wall changes their behaviour and they become less threatening. As well, corner stacks are very reliable for pulling ranged mobs into the stack with melee mobs (due to line of sight). Finally, an open field stack is never as tight as a corner stack, making it harder to use small-size AoE’s.

No one argues that LOSing mobs isn’t a good idea.

They are arguing that LOSing a single boss or pushing them against walls is pointless with some obvious exceptions such as Bridgette in CM p2.

It’s about pugs who were completely oblivious to why people used to want things on the wall, which was for fgs’s fiery rush.

The fact that people are still using the same outdated tactics that don’t even work anymore is what this thread’s topic is about.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Why should Bridgette be pushed to the wall?

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- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Why should Bridgette be pushed to the wall?

I think it’s more the using the house and rotating back and forth to the different sides to get her to follow you out of her damage field. I think you taught me that one

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

She shouldn’t.

“LOSing a single boss or pushing them against walls”

She can either be pulled out of, pushed out of, or LOSed out of her retal symbols. Pugs don’t typically burn her down before she has the chance to do it twice or more times.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

erm, that means LoS, not “pushed to the wall”. I’m curious about “pushing to the wall” tactic tho :<

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

One good example of pushing bosses to the wall is the troll in HotW. But then again, if your group can burn him fast enough or dodge properly, it shouldn’t be a problem.

For LoS stacking, the first boss in HotW p3 and second in p2, Andal with his cute twin quaggans and the mofo with geyser that knocks back also need to corner stack properly.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

That moment when you try to temp curtain her out of the retal symbol and she gets stuck on a tree. >.>

I think the pushing to the wall is for bosses like slaver driver in cof p1. Where people still push him onto the wall for absolutely no reason. Would be better to icebow 5 him.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

That moment when you try to temp curtain her out of the retal symbol and she gets stuck on a tree. >.>

I think the pushing to the wall is for bosses like slaver driver in cof p1. Where people still push him onto the wall for absolutely no reason. Would be better to icebow 5 him.

Well, that tree is a good los spot tho :o

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Also corner stack to cleave Kayi and his minions is a valid tactic.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Well, that tree is a good los spot tho :o

Was referring to the piddly twig of a tree right next to where she spawns. The symbol was covering that.