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Posted by: Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

I’m alone, thankfully. I say this because I have a reasonable sized Hawaiian pizza and somewhat of an appetite today since I spent the afternoon shifting a few tonnes of turf. I would not appreciate if people were contesting my right to eat pizza.

Anyway, I happened to stumble upon a very nice chap who had never completed a single dungeon in the game. He was a warrior, a casual player, learning as best he could, level 80 with karma exotics.

So, we talked a while and I suggested he join me for a CoF run to get acclimated to dungeon play. We duly went to the nearest WP as CoF was contested, formed a group and my new friend was happy at the prospect.

2 hours later, despite having a group for almost all of that time, we never did enter CoF, not once.

The reason, it is contested. Constantly.

Before I get told to stop QQ, can I point out that some people, perhaps not many, but some people, are casual players who work long hours and perhaps come online at midnight. This leads to a bit of difficulty.

Whilst i myself am “reasonably” free to run a dungeon each day (I set my own working hours), my newly found friend is not. Due to work he is only able to log on at midnight UK time for maybe 2-3 hours. Sadly for him, nobody is available to help clear the events needed to access CoF.

Therein lies the problem. This chap has paid the same for the game as everyone else, yet is unable to access content due to the times he plays. CoF was simply inaccessible tonight. We tried guesting but with the same result on all servers.

Despite having understanding group members prepared to guest for his benefit, my newly found friend still did not get to experience a dungeon.

My question is simply, to Anet staffers, is this an acceptable situation?

Im aware that some people farm dungeons (particuarly CoF P1) to excess, I’m aware that there are diminishing returns on certain rewards within dungeons. It just seems highly unfair that a casual gamer is unable to access a regular area of content at all due to restrictions designed to impede progress of the “hardcore gamer” element.

We are not talking about him gaining a legendary (he realises it requires too much commitment), certainly dedicated players do deserve rewards which set them apart, that is par for the course, but in situations like this, is it fair to effectively exclude players from certain content due to personal circumstances?

In my view, no.

I could be wrong, but CoF has been showing as contested far more frequently as of late. The NPC text being out of sync is a dead giveaway to the apparent “entry nerf”.

The question is, can anything be done to address the above. For those of us who play outside peak times, its essential. A dungeon is regular end-game content, it should be accessible to all unless part of a chain of progression, but that is not the focus of this text as CoF is a standard level 80 dungeon.

I hope Anet can help here.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

So, this might be a rude question, but did you have a 5 man group during all of that? I’m not entirely familiar with the events leading up to CoF, but I thought a single 5-person group could clear it.

Mixing insults with your post is like pooping in a salad.
It’s pretty obvious, and nobody’s impressed.

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Posted by: Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

So, this might be a rude question, but did you have a 5 man group during all of that? I’m not entirely familiar with the events leading up to CoF, but I thought a single 5-person group could clear it.

It’s not rude. People came and went. I think the point is more that people playing on limited time simply cannot undertake precursor events and thus the dungeon remains closed if its “out of hours”. Instead of a 30 minutes dungeon run, you’re looking at what, 2 hours for the timers and so on? I’m not entirely sure, but it isn’t 30 minutes.

Also, it means everyone has to know the precursor encounters before they even look at a dungeon. That may be acceptable though, I guess.

I suppose I’m just trying to make a point for those that are not sure what to say themselves, the silent minority…or perhaps majority.

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Posted by: Dolan.3071

Dolan.3071

Just guest to a server that is open? Kaineng’s CoF is never open, but somewhere one will be…

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Posted by: Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

Yaaxo Keenblade.1263

Just guest to a server that is open? Kaineng’s CoF is never open, but somewhere one will be…

Would be fine except not everyone had completed story mode. Those that had tried different servers and all were closed. A player like my new friend would encounter the same issue trying to complete story mode as we all did in Exp mode….it comes back to the same thing.

Does make me want to QQ a bit. I’m happy enough with my dungeon runs usually, I’m no crusader but it just doesn’t seem fair that a person cannot level to 80 over time, then log on and play a standard dungeon in the 1 hour the get following dinner and before putting their children to bed….!

Thanks for the replies.

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Posted by: Siv.4351

Siv.4351

Not getting to do a dungeon is punishment for putting pineapple on a pizza.

You monster.

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Posted by: Isaac.6041

Isaac.6041

Casual players enter CoF regularly. There are sites like gw2bear.com that show you when the entrance is uncontested on which servers. If you can’t be bothered to use sites like this and gw2lfg.com to help you enter CoF fast, well that’s your problem.

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Posted by: randomfightfan.4091

randomfightfan.4091

If it was such a big deal to get it open then open the event yourself. It takes 1 person to start the event and to get it to the bridge. It takes 2 good people or 4 average people to beat the bridge event. The entire event takes about 10-15 minutes. If no one had story mode finished, do story mode. You’ll never have that problem ever again.

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Posted by: x per fection x.2096

x per fection x.2096

Google is your friend, or you can use sites that just tell you what servers are open and you can just guest. With the new API there should be zero posts like this.

http://jsfiddle.net/KoxAlen/cCfTL/embedded/result/

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Posted by: Player Character.9467

Player Character.9467

If it was such a big deal to get it open then open the event yourself. It takes 1 person to start the event and to get it to the bridge. It takes 2 good people or 4 average people to beat the bridge event. The entire event takes about 10-15 minutes. If no one had story mode finished, do story mode. You’ll never have that problem ever again.

^this

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Posted by: RedCobra.7693

RedCobra.7693

yes i agree with the above, dont blame the game because youd thought u’d be sneaky and skip the story mode, thats all your teams fault, i know 3 servers that literally have the event open 24/7, who doesnt do the story???

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Posted by: Cymric.7368

Cymric.7368

The average player shouldn’t be expected to know websites like http://jsfiddle.net/ and gw2bear.com. OP’s group should have guest to one server together to open it, however, to expect a pug to be kind enough to do that is really doubtful.

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Posted by: hamsteak.1368

hamsteak.1368

hold up

you waited 2 hours for someone else to do the event?

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Posted by: Ethics.4519

Ethics.4519

There are several dungeons that do not have pre-events. Feel free to do AC or TA anytime of the day.

The CoF pre-event is easily done by a 5-man team that isn’t lazy.

The pre-event for CoF is easily searched for on-line if you are unfamiliar with it.

RIP in peace Robert

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Posted by: backsnap.1937

backsnap.1937

http://www.gw2eventstate.com/cof

Park there and just check before u guest

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Posted by: ilr.9675

ilr.9675

^that^ … failed a really routine Path3 arah last night b/c team had 2 necros.
get off mah lawn, holloween aint for 2 more months

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Posted by: Sera.6539

Sera.6539

hold up

you waited 2 hours for someone else to do the event?

This is what I’m confused about as well. The meta event doesn’t take that long to complete (I often leave Razen dead right before the take over/defense event so anyone who needs it can finish the rest). The contested thing in my opinion is just to show the tug of war between the Flame Legion and others (forget if there’s an exact faction) in the area. 2 hours seems like a long time to have waited and not run the dungeon.

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Posted by: DungeonDaughter.7391

DungeonDaughter.7391

Hawaiian pizza, sub bacon for ham, add onions = the best.

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