Guild Wars 2

I’ve done 6 attempts today at 26 or 30 daily, 6 times someone DC’ed.

It’s NOT the fractals, I’ve done over 500 fractals and DC’ed twice, once random whole group kick, and once i had total loss of internet for 24 hours.

Sorry for all you guys that DC and it not your fault but its getting stupid, buy a real connection.

Did one just and this guy DC’ed before end of 2nd fractal that we finished without him, he moaned that we continued on the 3rd without him after he just told us he DC’ed 3 times in past 2 days.

Use some brain cells and if you are having DC problems don’t join a group and waste other peoples time, sort out your crap.

Some sort of punishment is needed for consistent DC’ers and/or rage quitters.

3 in 24 hours and your blocked from fractals/dungeons for the next 24 hours, something like that.

Sorry for the rant guys but i’ve wasted 10+ hours today on morons.

I don’t necessarily agree on punishing DC’ers but they definitely need to be more mindful of others. When I’m having connection issues or hardware issues, I don’t play fractals for this reason. It wastes my time and more importantly, 4 others’ time. My ISP decided to provide bad service and I was dc’n a lot, so I stopped fractals until I dropped them and got another ISP. Similarly, I had an issue with my gfx card an was crashing the game. Until that was fixed, I didn’t run fractals.

Use common courtesy and avoid wasting people’s time. Hopefully this will be fixed on the 28th and it won’t matter much anymore.

Trust me, 95% of people who DC in Fractals don’t do so on purpose.

I never was affected by it until I was. In fact it happened twice in succession, always close to the end. At that point I vowed I wouldn’t set my foot in Fractals again until they fixed the DC issue.

Blame ANet, not the players for kittening this up so bad.

Yes i dced today 5min before beating the last boss and a few days ago before looting maw chest on purpose…

My ISP is fine, i’m usually seeding torrents and never had any lag ingame besides Halloween and Karka event. If it weren’t for the storm hitting this part of the country since yesterday I would be blaming ANET for the random dc of today.

And my guess is that it is fractals.
I should be somewhere between 400-450 fractals done and never dced till last week. Now i’m on the 6th dc and it’s getting annoying. The only other time i dced this much was during the first couple months of release trying the buggy arah story.

I don’t do fractals due to the disconnect and not being able to get back bug.
I DC’d only twice, but it was 2 much to bear.
The 2nd was due to the machie craching as a result of something else that happens only in GW2, and no other game.

You want to punish me? For what?
I agree about ragequitters.
There should be some form of a penalty like in WoW, where if you rage quit before you wiped 3 times or so, you’re banned from lfg tool for 30 mins.

the patch should solve this (hopefully), but one solution could have been to make it so you have to pay something to start the fractal, a bit like paid tournaments, and we can also imagine that if you finish the fractal, what you paid is given back to you.

Sorry but I live in Australia and pay over $200 a month for the best connection money can buy and it still sucks. Would you like me to move countries also? XD

tbh I found the issue to be more likely due to the nature of fractals ( don’t see as many DC’s anywhere else)

I believe the real issue is the inability to re-enter and that is what should be fixed. When that’s fixed (next patch I believe) people will have less of an excuse to pull the cord if that’s what they are doing, and people who get legit DC’d can just re-enter.

I think this problem will get more or less fixed in the upcoming patch. But yeah besides accidental DC I personally have seen plenty of ragequitters in the sense of OMG OUR RUN ISNT PERFECT ragequit at 3rd fractal. Wth is wrong with those people lol.

You should punish people who disconnect. Excluding the fact they might miss out on loot, and is something that is beyond their control…

Makes sense.

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625:

personally have seen plenty of ragequitters in the sense of OMG OUR RUN ISNT PERFECT ragequit at 3rd fractal

Personally I find that most, if not all of those brainless ragequitters, are actually quite bad players with low skill. And if there is no one to make up for their poor performance, like a skilled supportive guardian, they leave the party after just one or two wipes.

Since it ruins the run for the remaining party members, I wish there was some kind of ingame penalty for this kind of behaviour. Until then, my blocked list is just getting bigger and bigger.

Jay.3284:

You should punish people who disconnect. Excluding the fact they might miss out on loot, and is something that is beyond their control…

Makes sense.

Makes sence when other waste hours because they have a kittenty connection yes. If i got disconnected from fractals all the time i would not join a group knowing i was going to be wasting there time too.

Konrad.9587:

Until then, my blocked list is just getting bigger and bigger.

Mine too.

I’m not sure if you should lump rage-quitters and random disconnects in the same category.

In some cases, you could tell a rage-quit from a random disconnect based on where the disconnect happened. For example, if you wiped a few times on the Arm Seals in the Cliffside Fractal and someone disconnected soon after the failure, then that’s probably a rage-quit. However, if someone disconnected with no signs of failure from other group members in said Fractal, then the disconnect is more likely random.

Buying a “real connection” may not be a great solution if they happen to live in an area where there is only one company providing the connection to that location. Of course there might be exceptions, but most cases, that’s how you can tell a random DC from a rage-quit DC. I know my area only has one internet provider. Sure I could also tether a wireless connection to my smartphone and play that way, but the last time I did that, my connection was much worse.

Likewise, one should be mindful before attempting Fractals (or any dungeon for that matter) if one has a flaky connection. If it’s with a group of close friends or guildmates, then sure— they probably won’t mind your connection and would probably wait on you if have issues; but if going with PUGs, at least see if your connection will last throughout the run.

Hopefully the patch will fix this and let’s see if they learnt anything from dungeons where a player would get kicked and replaced with a guildie at the end to loot the chest

There are issues with fractals that make people disconnect more often, TC. Try to recall that.

I agree with punishing dc’ers but not too harsh. Maybe after 3-5 reports of a player DC’ing and anet can confirm they dc’ed, give them a punishment that would make them think twice. This guy in my party dc’ed in the 3rd fractal level then told us, “this is my 5th dc today”, he pretty much got the whole party aggravated because this moron knows he’s dc’ing yet he’s wasting our time.

^^ exactly my point, people with no brains and no concideration for others. These are the same sort of people that run past downed players on the way to the chest, god forbid it might disappear :P

What about people who are d/c’ed because of Anet’s servers. Every now and then I would d/c from a dungeon even though my internet is working fine. The server would just boot me for no reason and force me to relog. Should people be punished for that?

Oh yeah, punish people for losingtheir connection, that sounds like a plan, not.

And

Nibiru
“i’ve wasted 10+ hours today on morons.”

Please add me to your blocked list if that’s what you think of people that lose their connection through no fault of their own.

the only way to distinguish people from leaving a fractal would be if there was a way to detect if a person just left the party, and not disconnected from the game entirely. If he left intentionally to leave the other 4 to struggle trough the fractals he could be punished for it.

because there is no way to distinguish people from turning off their own internet or disconnecting by accident due to power loss or any other reason.

Solid Gold.9310:

Oh yeah, punish people for losingtheir connection, that sounds like a plan, not.

And

Nibiru
“i’ve wasted 10+ hours today on morons.”

Please add me to your blocked list if that’s what you think of people that lose their connection through no fault of their own.

With pleasure, your completely missing the point as usual!!, im not talking about people that DC once in a while thats to be expected, but kitten that DC 3 times that day yet still join and waste the time of the next party.

Why do people waste time replying if your just going to read between the lines and get you facts wrong

I agree with OP. I have a friend that, no matter what, will DC every third load screen. He doesn’t do fractals because of this. It’s rude to waste other people’s time just because you are on a cheap connection.

This is a great thread for knowing who to block on my lists so that I never see them in dungeon groups.

lordhelmos.7623:

This is a great thread for knowing who to block on my lists so that I never see them in dungeon groups.

I really hope that all the DC’er block me, please do it right now!! maybe i will complete a daily today :P

Funny part is half the negative people here have probably never done fractals, and dont know how much of a problem this is, you cant just reconnect like you can in other dungeons or go get someone else. Most the time you have to start over, losing over an hour for nothing.

Anet is the one who should be “punished” for the Fractals DC issue.

They should have never released fractals if there was no way for players who dc to log back in. And on top of that they made completing fractals a requirement for the monthly achievement and the only real way to get ascended gear. No wonder people risk it.

Haven’t they fixed this issue yet? After all this time? Seriously?

Actually I have only had two fractal runs both level 1.
The fitst run two people disconected during the first fractal, the second run I disconnected from the very end of the third fractal. Usually the game is extremly stable the only issue I have if that sometimes the games takes forever to load a new zone.

But why would you want to punish people for disconnects? There are punished enough. I know I was pretty kittened that I disconnected so close to my first successful run. But I will probably run it a few times more, because so far the fractals were very nice and I don’t know jet if I really disconnect often or if that was just a really unlucky moment for my internet connection.

matenzo.9518:

Anet is the one who should be “punished” for the Fractals DC issue.

They should have never released fractals if there was no way for players who dc to log back in. And on top of that they made completing fractals a requirement for the monthly achievement and the only real way to get ascended gear. No wonder people risk it.

Haven’t they fixed this issue yet? After all this time? Seriously?

next patch so they say, can only hope.

Nibiru.1423:

matenzo.9518:

Anet is the one who should be “punished” for the Fractals DC issue.

They should have never released fractals if there was no way for players who dc to log back in. And on top of that they made completing fractals a requirement for the monthly achievement and the only real way to get ascended gear. No wonder people risk it.

Haven’t they fixed this issue yet? After all this time? Seriously?

next patch so they say, can only hope.

Too late.

I would like to see people get punished for just leaving a fractal. Had a guy rage quit when we wiped on a boss, which was a fluke. We were doing quite well. We ended up four manning it and it was one of the best pugs I’ve joined. Impatient people that waste others’ time should indeed be penalized.

I think your seeing fractals as a job you have to do, and hate, and not a game you should be enjoying.

Solid Gold.9310:

I think your seeing fractals as a job you have to do, and hate, and not a game you should be enjoying.

Yes it is a game but a lot of us budget a set amount of time that we can play it. SO we would like for that time to be productive. If we are going to just sit in front of the computer while our character basically goes through a lot of loading screens and you accomplish nothing, then I’d rather do something else with my time.

Bastionhawk.7120:

Solid Gold.9310:

I think your seeing fractals as a job you have to do, and hate, and not a game you should be enjoying.

Yes it is a game but a lot of us budget a set amount of time that we can play it. SO we would like for that time to be productive. If we are going to just sit in front of the computer while our character basically goes through a lot of loading screens and you accomplish nothing, then I’d rather do something else with my time.

You like to be efficient but you pug, both are mutually exclusive.
No punishment for dcing should be implemented.

Coast.5162:

You like to be efficient but you pug, both are mutually exclusive.
No punishment for dcing should be implemented.

Dont mind the odd time, but 6 pugs in a row yesterday

yes, ragequiters, or just trollers SHOULD be punished, but people who randomly DC, and cannot influence it anyhow? -.-
so you are saying as long as there IS a chance to DC, you shouldnt do anything that lasts more than 10 minutes??? EVERYONE has a chance to DC, even if you have best internet provider, and connection, even if you had a flawless PC, you HAVE a chance to DC no matter what, sometimes it just happens, so you are saying everyone should be punished for doing fractals, because they know that sometimes games get buggy and DC for no reason, and still they do them -.- makes sense, really does ….

OP is so narrow minded and troll.
Do you think you are the centre of the universe?

Who would like to get DC? 99% of it is unintended and it’s not predictable.
Losing rewards at the end and also drops are already the hard punishment already.

BlackPaw.5948:

OP is so narrow minded and troll.
Do you think you are the centre of the universe?

Who would like to get DC? 99% of it is unintended and it’s not predictable.
Losing rewards at the end and also drops are already the hard punishment already.

Think you’re confusing narrow minded with common sense kid, i would never waste other peoples time if my connection was so bad. I mean come on, I’ve played GW2 for hours using my mobile phone 3G connection (tethering) without dissconections when my main internet was down, but I would not join a fractal with this connection for consideration of others.

p.s. love how people troll posts to call other people trolls.

Stop pugging if you are going to cry about it. No punishment is needed for anything. I have yet to have anyone in my set group ever DC.

I have never done fractals without a dcing party member or dcing myself. :/ I hate it must be bad luck although I don’t think so when I hear how many others have same problems.

lordhelmos.7623:

This is a great thread for knowing who to block on my lists so that I never see them in dungeon groups.

It’s like you’re inside my head!!

Honestly this is just stupid. So you want to punish a person for a fractal DC? Guess what.. A DC in a fractal is it’s own punishment. Suggesting that they should be punished even more for something that is out of their control is lunacy. The internet they have is the internet they can afford to have. Anet is not in the business of kicking people while they are down nor will they.

Some people.. I sweat =P

Agreed, I’ve had my ISP over at my house to check my connection and been assured there are no issues. They also say in their logs at no point has my Internet stopped working. I have never and have never dced from any dungeon aside from fractals. And yet somehow I’ve never finished 3 in a row without someone or myself dcing. Meanwhile my connection remains with full bars. I believe something else might be the problem because I’ve only disconnected one time outside the fractals and that was during list shore event when my client crashed.