So awhile back you could break the top of this boss off to reduce the number of random ccs being thrown around in the fight.
As far as I know they moved the hit box making it unbreakable… but when I was in a bad pug fotm the other night with a necro we managed to break the swirler on top of the boss, and the necro complained that he was “bleeding something underground”. Tbh I was shocked so I didn’t get great footage at the time but later I went back and tried various things until I used, Epidemic which allowed me to take the condi’s off one the adds and apply it to the swirler allowing for it to be killed.
Does anyone have any idea’s why the Epidemic will work but Necro axe 3 fails to hit it even though they have the same skill radius?
Even more remarkable (and confusing) is that the elemental source is a structure… so apparently the Swirler isn’t, if it can be condi bombed by epidemic…?
Even more remarkable (and confusing) is that the elemental source is a structure… so apparently the Swirler isn’t, if it can be condi bombed by epidemic…?
Anet wtf…
Something that was bugging me an keeping me awake, but to ice the cake of weird either retaliation doesn’t damage it or it just flat out doesn’t show up in the combat log.
Even more remarkable (and confusing) is that the elemental source is a structure… so apparently the Swirler isn’t, if it can be condi bombed by epidemic…?
Anet wtf…
Something that was bugging me an keeping me awake, but to ice the cake of weird either retaliation doesn’t damage it or it just flat out doesn’t show up in the combat log.
I’ll be honest, seeing this makes me feel somewhat foolish and also makes me wish we had the new combat log a long long time ago. I just assumed since the source is a structure, the top must be as well. Presumably it’s always been susceptible to condi…?
Ages ago, when we did our tests on what skills worked, we just had one person spamming a certain skill to see if it worked or not. We knew the hitbox was below it, and you needed large aoe to damage it. We never bothered with the combat log, but it didn’t show condi damage back then anyway. Once we figured out a few cluster bombs and some arcane/staff aoes did the trick we didn’t bother digging further into it for the next 2 years. What’s the point when you run with the same 4 people and the same comp every night? I never thought to look at it again when the new combat log was released.
Does anyone have any idea’s why the Epidemic will work but Necro axe 3 fails to hit it even though they have the same skill radius?
Probably because not all radius skills have a spherical area of effect. Or because Epidemic does not apply it’s effect on ground level but axe 3 does (or vice versa). Could probably think of some more, we would need more skills to test it. Now i want a:
SELECT SkillNames FROM FullSkillList WHERE Radius>=600 GROUP BY Class
I’m not going through the whole list by hand again.
Does anyone have any idea’s why the Epidemic will work but Necro axe 3 fails to hit it even though they have the same skill radius?
Probably because not all radius skills have a spherical area of effect. Or because Epidemic does not apply it’s effect on ground level but axe 3 does (or vice versa). Could probably think of some more, we would need more skills to test it. Now i want a:
SELECT SkillNames FROM FullSkillList WHERE Radius>=600 GROUP BY Class
I’m not going through the whole list by hand again.
Those are all the ones I found but I might have missed one or two.
Something else to look at would be should anything work then if the thing is critable or at least that it could proc on hit things like leeching charges….. also could mean a use for … venom shares, leeching damage and condi’s or for that matter ranger spirits that give condi’s on hit.
I would test them but it’s hard for me to get someone to roll for this with me since it is so Rng.
Oh and with the name the swirler has in the combat log I feel like anet just shoved an ice elemental in the ground to shoot off this skill over an over again. >.<
Thats curious. I tried life transfer and assumed it was well out of range because that didnt work. Its possible that its behind another layer which is blocking the damage. But then again life transfer hits through walls aswell so i have no idea why epidemic works and life transfer doesnt.
Good find. And im also very curious about it recieving condi damage lol.
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