Did we all forget about Zhaitan? (Spoilers)

Did we all forget about Zhaitan? (Spoilers)

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Posted by: Linnael.1069

Linnael.1069

I know I did. Then I finished the personal story on one of my alts. Did the mission with three other people who had never done it. Lemme give you a few highlights from chat:

“what do i need to know for the next bit”
“lol”

“wait is that it”
“where do we go now”
“i think its over”

Granted most of the snark is me, but I honestly thought this was kind of embarassing. I’ve been promoting the game to try and get my friends to play it with me for a while, and I had to think, what if this was what they saw? I have to say, the final boss, the climactic ending to your story, the Big Bad, would make most people want to run as far away as possible from getting this game.

Keep in mind, we hardc0re players that have been playing for a while tend to see the personal story as, well, small fry. But remember that for the first hundred-odd hours of the game, that was the game, it’s what the story is all here for. And the finish to that, where you get to finally face the boss that’s hounded you for ages and taken so much from you, is still just pressing 2? Honestly, if somebody made a list of dumbest final bosses in mmo’s, who do you think would top that list?

I guess what I’m asking for, beyond the chance to rant for bit, is to just get some confirmation that this is not intended. I’m a little afraid that Anet’s somehow rationalized the need for an easy boss so that everybody can feel like a hero, but come on, even easy bosses can have cool mechanics and stuff. Literally everything else in the dungeon prior to zhaitan is better. So please, to any devs out there, come tell us that you’ve got something in the works, that this is somewhere on your priority list.

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Posted by: Saint.5647

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I don’t mind some of the Story Modes. Some are actually tougher than the regular paths and are not as well known. Arah is a disaster though. More false endings than LoTR and the worst boss I’ve ever fought.

If you cut out all the airship bullkitten, it isn’t bad though. The Mouth of Zhaitan is a decent fight with some mechanics behind it. The ground portions with their bosses are not bad either. It’s that kitten airship with the 30 minute time gating and obnoxiously awkward turrets that drag it down.

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Posted by: Linnael.1069

Linnael.1069

I don’t mind some of the Story Modes. Some are actually tougher than the regular paths and are not as well known. Arah is a disaster though. More false endings than LoTR and the worst boss I’ve ever fought.

If you cut out all the airship bullkitten, it isn’t bad though. The Mouth of Zhaitan is a decent fight with some mechanics behind it. The ground portions with their bosses are not bad either. It’s that kitten airship with the 30 minute time gating and obnoxiously awkward turrets that drag it down.

Honestly I loved the bit with the giants and dragon champs. There’s a place for set pieces, and that was definitely it.

How they managed to make the final boss less interesting that the three preceding it totally escapes me tho.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

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That is by far the most anti climactic ending to any storyline I’ve ever played through. Words can’t express how disappointed I was finishing that. Well at least not words allowed on these forums.

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Posted by: Darox.8069

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Zhaitan? Beh, I always thought that the real final boss in this game is Wethospu!

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Posted by: Darox.8069

Darox.8069

Zhaitan? Beh, I always thought that the real final boss in this game is Wethospu!

Scrap that, even him can’t compete with the ultimate powers of Danicia

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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There are rumors that the airship was supposed to follow Zhaitan down into Arah and the team would finish him on land. Sounds like it would have been a much more interesting fight.

The main reasoning for the rumor is that there’s a very provocatively named POI in the Arah story map (“Zhaitan’s Last Stand”), but it’s not accessible. Maybe they omitted the Last Stand because they were worried that the party might not be awake after pushing 2 every 3 seconds for 45 minutes?

Or they’re waiting until they’re happy with it! I’m sure the real version is coming just as soon as they finish working on it!

lol

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Posted by: Darox.8069

Darox.8069

Or Zhaitan was a blatant bug all along ?

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Posted by: Linnael.1069

Linnael.1069

Or Zhaitan was a blatant bug all along ?

This is my concern. Was it actually? Or is this somehow intended? At this point I wouldn’t put it past Anet, and I’m just looking for a little restoration of faith here. Red post would make my day.

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Posted by: Cries Of Sorrow.5864

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Probably publisher pressure, alot in this game was rushed and unfinished, the game left beta in a very buggy state as a result of it.

Besides i heard we get to fight thaizan in Dark souls 3.

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

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There are rumors that the airship was supposed to follow Zhaitan down into Arah and the team would finish him on land. Sounds like it would have been a much more interesting fight.

The main reasoning for the rumor is that there’s a very provocatively named POI in the Arah story map (“Zhaitan’s Last Stand”), but it’s not accessible. Maybe they omitted the Last Stand because they were worried that the party might not be awake after pushing 2 every 3 seconds for 45 minutes?

Or they’re waiting until they’re happy with it! I’m sure the real version is coming just as soon as they finish working on it!

lol

You’re correct.
After you beat the mouth, there’s this gate ahead that opens. I kinda feel like to do Story Mode again and see if I can jump off the ship into the island again and explore that place, though it’s probably walled.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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You can jump off the ship, use a rev orb, and swim around quite a bit. There are a lot of walls, but you know how walls are in this game….esp in Arah xD

I did that in a PUG a while back. I was laughing because everyone followed me.

I guess they couldn’t believe that it was actually over!

Honestly, some of the fights in Arah’s story mode are pretty fun, it’s just that the majority of the time is spent on that kibbeh airship trying to stay awake. But fighting the mouth? Really fun, especially in a sucky group xD

I’d never noticed the gate after the mouth. I may go back and run that again to do some exploring…I love breaking Arah, lol

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Posted by: draconx.3102

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To be honest, I think the dungeon is pretty much fine up to, and including the Mouth of Zhaitan fight. Maybe the airship part with the giants is a bit long.

But after that the rest of the dungeon is just stupid, and long, and pointless. Mouth of Zhaitan should be the last boss. The rest, a cutscene.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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I wish I was in charge of the direction of the game :<

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

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Just did Story Mode again, and though you can see all those NPCs rushing towards that door, it never actually opens.
Must’ve been my imagination.

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Posted by: Archon.6480

Archon.6480

There are rumors that the airship was supposed to follow Zhaitan down into Arah and the team would finish him on land. Sounds like it would have been a much more interesting fight.

The main reasoning for the rumor is that there’s a very provocatively named POI in the Arah story map (“Zhaitan’s Last Stand”), but it’s not accessible. Maybe they omitted the Last Stand because they were worried that the party might not be awake after pushing 2 every 3 seconds for 45 minutes?

Or they’re waiting until they’re happy with it! I’m sure the real version is coming just as soon as they finish working on it!

lol

Or zhaitan is not dead yet. Who says we killed the undead dragon with those faulty asuran cannons. As if he would die so easily! He’s undead!

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

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Unfortunately, there have been several dev responses confirming his death.
Zhaitain was allergic to confetti.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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But maybe it was all just a dream….

Or Scarlet and Zhaitan will wage war on Tyria from beyond the grave!

OMG wouldn’t it be absolutely wonderful to have Scarlet back in LS2?