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Posted by: Bart Weird.9671

Bart Weird.9671

Removing the clowncar would have been enough,
the bomb part on lvl 50 is a joke!
When do we get challenging content?

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Posted by: Sanderinoa.8065

Sanderinoa.8065

While I see your point, I find this to be utterly ironic and kind of embarrassing.

Bombs weren’t exactly hard to begin with, just be glad clown cart is nerfed and ask for challenging content in some other topic.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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The bomb was never difficult.
Was only frustrating without TS due to long time needed to coordinate via chat.

Yet was extremely easy once you lost 15 minutes to explani -.-

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Bart Weird.9671

Bart Weird.9671

Sanderinoa they just overnerv stuff instead of finding real balance.
While I appreciate the removal of the clown car or the fix of the camera on the grawl shaman encounter,…having such visible effects on rabsovich and such an easy and stupidious way to deal with the bomb path is just too much. I feel bad bc if i want to do fractals lvl 1 I go there.

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Posted by: Sanderinoa.8065

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The rabso tells killed me xD so stupid

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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Am I right in thinking that Rabsovich used to turn towards you as you tried to move away from his big attack, but now he stays on the orange/red line? That would explain why he’s so much simpler.

Yes I agree that it is too simple now. Great to see some new ideas here, great to have the bulk of the fractal cut down, but too easy now. Give Rabsovich some of his troops back. Entirely remove the mobs between Rabsovich and the end boss as they are no use for anything.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

I thinks anet should turn the character of everyone complaining the fractal is too easy into a dredge with the title “Rabsovich witness”.

Took 18 months of pain and suffering….while it was constantly ruined patch after patch.
After they finally decide to do something you can t complain.

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Posted by: maha.7902

maha.7902

Threads like this need to be completely ignored.

Everyone complains about dredge for over a year, ANet fix it to (time-wise) be in line with other fractals, and people … complain.

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Posted by: Lunar Sunset.8742

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It was not overnerfed… They are all easy and so was dredge BEFORE the nerf, now it’s easy and doesn’t take forever to complete.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

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Let’s not forget how cheesy the tactic for bomb actually was, Stealth, put down 5 bombs, portal back, then suicide rush the last 2 bombs.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Apparently I’m not capable of being nice. No OP. I believe you are wrong. Good luck in your future endeavors.

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Annoying content =/= challenging content, if you didn’t catch on.

A remnant of times past.
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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

EcoRI.9273

The dredge bomb was never difficult provided you have a thief in the party that knows what he is doing. Since I main thief in FoTM I was able to explain to PUGs my tactics and we were able to complete the bomb phase in 3runs.(5 at a time) and and me soloing the last 2. Thief for dredge is like Guardian for most bosses in fotm, its a must have if you want smooth run.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

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Even without a thief, a guardian with sanctuary can help the group with the suicidal bombing, then rinse and repeat.

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Posted by: Lamir.6702

Lamir.6702

Even without a thief, a guardian with sanctuary can help the group with the suicidal bombing, then rinse and repeat.

I don’t even think you need to wait for the bombs to explode now. You just run ahead with like 30s of stealth and place them in a pipe.

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Posted by: Bart Weird.9671

Bart Weird.9671

Threads like this need to be completely ignored.

Everyone complains about dredge for over a year, ANet fix it to (time-wise) be in line with other fractals, and people … complain.

It’s nowhere close to be in line with other fractals.
It might be in line with other fractals in fractal level scale 1.
That’s true.

If all you care about is loot and getting done with a dungeon in less thn 5minutes without enjoying the content than I congratulate you guys for your carrots!

It might not have been a challenge before but now It’s just a joke.

I feel stupid placing 9 bombes in a pipe after receiving some endless stealth without any resistance. If there would be at least some interesting mechanic which actually would require some coordination but like this I’m sorry boyz and girlz.

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

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Dredge fractal has always been easy. The issue was that it used to be overwhelmingly annoying.
Now it’s just easy.

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Posted by: Bart Weird.9671

Bart Weird.9671

Lilith are you scared i got a point?

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith are you scared i got a point?

I’m scared of nothing bookah. But you’re just wrong. So shut the meow up and stop trolling.

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

FenrirSlakt.3692

Lilith are you scared i got a point?

Nope, she just wants you to shut your trap, man. I share her opinion on that matter, but as I’m certain that words won’t do much to dissuade you, I’ll just wait until you get tired of being disagreed with.

Also, if you care to know my opinion on that fractal, you might want to refer to my previous response.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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Hai guiz I brought enough to share!

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Posted by: EcoRI.9273

EcoRI.9273

I think people just want to see Dredge disappear from the list honestly. I honestly would prefer Dredge being super easy the way it is right now than giving Anet the idea of tinkering with it given their track record with the Dredge fractal.

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Posted by: The Mexican Cookie.3690

The Mexican Cookie.3690

Pretty sure OP is a Masochist. “I preferred it when I had to put up with extreme tedium for longer periods of time!”

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Posted by: maha.7902

maha.7902

Dredge is fine the way it is. The puzzle mechanics are still present, and the final bosses which I always enjoyed fighting haven’t been touched.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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And for the record, I think the new dredge fractal has just the right amount of nerve.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

Dredge is fine the way it is. The puzzle mechanics are still present, and the final bosses which I always enjoyed fighting haven’t been touched.

This. I agree with this.

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

ITT: There will always be people who will find reason to complain just about anything.

SBI – Thief and the occasional Guardian & Warrior.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

I kind of agree with Bart.

While the fix is great we got non-combat puzzles to replace them.

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Posted by: Sanderinoa.8065

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Why all the violence guys?

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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The nerve of Anet!

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

I dont like the non combat puzzles but atleast dredge takes a reasonable amount of time to complete now. So i cant really complain too much.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I dont like the non combat puzzles but atleast dredge takes a reasonable amount of time to complete now. So i cant really complain too much.

Come on, you were literally dying of joy while doing the puzzle. You adore it, just admit it.
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… I really like the new dredge. Now it’s on line with others length-wise…
I still prefer Cliffside though. That scenery.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I dont like the non combat puzzles but atleast dredge takes a reasonable amount of time to complete now. So i cant really complain too much.

Come on, you were literally dying of joy while doing the puzzle. You adore it, just admit it.
/pings panda
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… I really like the new dredge. Now it’s on line with others length-wise…
I still prefer Cliffside though. That scenery.

Cliffside, my favorite fractal. I kind of like the puzzle without fight but maybe it’s only because I like not having to fight dredge. But I’m the kind of guy who want jumping puzzle in dungeons XD.

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

Is Cliffside the most time consuming one now? And not a single champ bag whatsoever.

My looty feels.

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Posted by: Cletus Van Damme.2795

Cletus Van Damme.2795

Good stuff anet, such a slog before.

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Posted by: Sublimatio.6981

Sublimatio.6981

How can you ppl grumble about dredge being rollface? Isn’t it the thing we were asking for MONTHS? O_O
I am very happy. Dredge has now some puzzle elements, very fun to begin with

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

The giant is pretty frickin’ cool looking, too

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Posted by: Tentonhammr.7849

Tentonhammr.7849

Let’s get one thing straight. Dredge was never hard content. It was boring. Dredge was boring b/c it was tediously long. It is still boring b/c the puzzles are boring. This alternative is 1000% better, so I’m not complaining, but I don’t necessarily think its fun.

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