Guild Wars 2

Months ago Regina asked the dungeon community to compile a list of bugs/glitches, reward structure suggestions and general thoughts on how to improve the game’s dungeons and fractals.

Most of the dungeon community met this request with responses like:

“Lol we’ve been giving you suggestions for months, you’ve been ignoring all of them.”

and

“Who are you? Where is Hrouda?/Bring back Robert Hrouda (RIP o’ great one, fair winds and following seas brother.)”

and

“Fractal reset never forget/where are fractal leaderboards lol/where is the fractal weapon box lol.”

I personally think all of the above were justified, and Regina acknowledged that frustrations were warranted.

Anyways, a number of us compiled comprehensive lists for each dungeon and for fractals with the hope that the lists would be taken seriously. After all, after months of silence in the dungeon forum, Regina specifically ASKED for input. Why would she ask if the team had no intention of improving this content?

So, as part of your continuing efforts to improve communication, I would just like to check in on the status of these changes and fixes. Specifically, are they being worked on or considered at all, or were the naysayers right? Was Regina just making a (poor?) attempt at an appeasement?

Thank you for your time, and thanks for reading.

I posted this in the general discussion because the overlying issue here is communication. I specifically asked the devs to NOT move it to the dungeon forum where it will likely never get read. Please move back to general.

Trashcan knows your feel. Give up.

Dungeons don’t make ANet money, no point in asking.

if you want focus on dungeons, go back to WoW

and while you’re there we’re looking for some dedicated players for mythic mode raids.

frifox.5283:

Dungeons don’t make ANet money, no point in asking.

I’d BUY dungeons.

no promises were made, and i don’t think anyone expects any even if they were made. and the devil laughs.

I kinda feel embarrassed for contributing to the Arah thread. What was I thinking?

Welcome back to the trashcan

Nothing will happen to dungeons, except for ‘bug fixes’

Dungeons don’t get love. Never ever..
They just enjoy making more LS, Gemstore stuff, WvW and PvP kitten.
Well, think i like the PvP changes. And my griffon, i like griffons!

Welcome to GW2, where communication is a one way street.

They’ll let us know When It’s Ready™.

Even better, they will let us find it out all by ourselves!

Also known as, no patch notes.

As much as I kitten about communication, I have to say: props to Justin, Evan, and Josh. I’m pretty jealous of the PvP community these days — they may not be getting the content they want, but at least they have devs that talk with them.

Moar pls.

/15Esportscharr

I thought nothing was off the table

/sigh
This again?
Meh, forum’s more depressing than usual, I’m back to… to the ls? Ok, nvm, back to watching series.

Snowball.3497:

I thought nothing was off the table

E-sports is everything so I guess that leaves nothing for the rest.

The funny thing is this thread WILL properly be in the general forum next week after the forums get restructured and they bomb the dungeon subforum to the ground. So I’ll repost it then.

Inb4 every dungeon related thread will be closed

The Trashcan will live on in our heart

Water clear, sigh, again.

/slap.

Gaile Gray.6029:

A lot of good suggestions and feedback were provided in the forum thread. You can be assured that Regina has forwarded the feedback from the forum thread, and that we appreciate your input very much. Aside from that, there’s nothing new to report right now.

Welp, thanks for the response. I know you aren’t responsible for this sort of thing Gaile, but I suppose that I just want to say that I’m disappointed. I saw the developer interview saying that dungeons aren’t going to be a priority anymore, but they did indicate that there would still be minor bug fixes and small QOL improvements along the way.

Because it’s been a few months since we provided you guys a comprehensive list of everything, I guess I had just hoped for SOMETHING, ANYTHING just to indicate that progress, as minor as it may be, is being made on this type of content.

Anyways, a response was all that I was looking for. So thanks.

Edit: To be fair to ANET, I dug up the exact dates. Regina sent over our suggestions on September 16th, so it’s really only been 2.5 months. I’m sure development takes time.

Just tell us, that people are working on dungeons, let it be new ones or the ones we provided feedback about.

And not in a ‘people are killing lupicus with reflects, let’s make that attack unblockable’ way of working on dungeons. In a way that the regulars of the dungeon forum provided feedback.

And that you will take feedback about dungeons seriously even after the merge of the subforums.

Ha, who am I kidding, nothing of this will happen.

Why did I already knew while reading the OP who this ominous red post is and what she will tell us?
Oh yeah, because it always works that way…

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Edit: To be fair to ANET, I dug up the exact dates. Regina sent over our suggestions on September 16th, so it’s really only been 2.5 months. I’m sure development takes time.

2.5 months, but even so, not the usual “we’re working on it,” but rather “nothing to report.” It’s (sadly) very fitting for the dungeon forum.

It will be listened to. It’s all in the language people.

I appreciate the efforts. I appreciate that people care enough about this game to write up these threads and I appreciate that someone like Gaile grey has the patience to deal with us. But there’s nothing that can be done. People can relay all the feedback, everyday of the year and none of it will be acted upon. We may as well be writing up feedback on flying pigs for all the good it does.

-GMB

I expected poetry swifty..

I know dungeon dont bring money, however people who do dungeons often do, some of the biggest spender I’ve met were hardcore speedrunner/soloer or just people who enjoyed dungeon (hi lilith), a lot of them quitted because of the lack of dungeon updates. I would be spending good money too, I however have no reasons to do so.

I’ve said it a number of times: I used to buy at least a typical MMO subscription worth of gems regularly when I started playing this game. Then I got infractions for daring to ask reasonable questions politely, watched ArenaNet ignore major issues with their game, and focus more or less entirely on LS and cash shop. I haven’t bought them in over a year.

And it’s entirely a trust issue. I don’t trust the company’s ability or willingness to produce content that I want to play at this point, at least not in any satisfying quantity. The refusal to even hint at what’s coming down the road damages this trust even further.

I love this game, and I’d love to support it again, but it’s not going to happen when all we get are LS episodes, openworld PvE farming “achievements”, cash shop, and silence.

GrimmR.3541:

I expected poetry swifty..

No poetry today, don’t feel like farming if you know what I mean -.-

Trice.4598:

I know dungeon dont bring money, however people who do dungeons often do, some of the biggest spender I’ve met were hardcore speedrunner/soloer or just people who enjoyed dungeon (hi lilith), a lot of them quitted because of the lack of dungeon updates. I would be spending good money too, I however have no reasons to do so.

I used to spend loads of money on this game. Didnt earn enough gold in game so I would buy gems with real cash every now and again. I no longer give into that temptation since the dungeon development cancellation announcement.

I don’t get it.. I’m quite sure that if they were to introduce dungeons against any sort of payment they would make lots of money (even after deducing the loan of programmers).

J Eberle.9312:

GrimmR.3541:

I expected poetry swifty..

No poetry today, don’t feel like farming if you know what I mean -.-

But.. but..

Just checking in — it’s been a couple months since we’ve heard anything.

Any updates?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Minigrump.4961:

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

I’m sure it’s still on a table, maybe they could let us know how deeply buried it is, though.

Hahahahahahahaahahaha

Have you guys lost your mind? Do you wish to get infracted? o.0

Gaile Gray.6029:

there’s nothing new to report right now.

Right now
Right tomorrow
Right ever

Iris Ng.9845:

Have you guys lost your mind? Do you wish to get infracted? o.0

Why would we care? As if there are some awful consequences of not being able to use these forums or flood control.

dlonie.6547:

Just checking in — it’s been a couple months since we’ve heard anything.

Any updates?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/549/306/165.gif

April 1st came too soon.

It’s been almost 10 months since the fractal cdi ended and we’re still getting uninfused rings at 50, right? (I dunno for sure; I stopped doing fractals a while back ‘cause my regular group doesn’t do them.)

Dub.1273:

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Hahahahahahahaahahaha

hahahahahahahahhahahahh

One Note Chord.5031:

It’s been almost 10 months since the fractal cdi ended and we’re still getting uninfused rings at 50, right? (I dunno for sure; I stopped doing fractals a while back ‘cause my regular group doesn’t do them.)

Yes, you still get uninfused rings at 50.

Also, September 16th to now is almost 6 months.

Also, also:

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Here’s how much care there is for Dungeons
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/2-Tokens-In-Dungeons-Penalizing-Speed-Clears/first#post4759709

Nyspar.6103:

Here’s how much care there is for Dungeons
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/2-Tokens-In-Dungeons-Penalizing-Speed-Clears/first#post4759709

Wow. I wonder how many tokens I’ve lost as I don’t ever actually look at the rewards and simply assume they’ve done it right. Shoulda known better.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Nyspar.6103:

Here’s how much care there is for Dungeons
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/2-Tokens-In-Dungeons-Penalizing-Speed-Clears/first#post4759709

Wow. I wonder how many tokens I’ve lost as I don’t ever actually look at the rewards and simply assume they’ve done it right. Shoulda known better.

There isn’t any dungeon team at Anet. Just Gaile posting now and then to appease us on the forums but really nothing is happening, at least as it appears to many of us.