Dungeon kicking has got to change!

Dungeon kicking has got to change!

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Posted by: LuRkEr.9462

LuRkEr.9462

People I know and myself are constantly getting kicked in fractals right before the worm boss goes down. Guilds of 2-3 people are kicking non members right before they go down and has happened to me four times in the past 2 weeks. They use you till the end no matter how good you are and kick you.
I don’t say a word the whole fractal, just do my part and ends up happening. Now this only happens like every 4-5 fractals I run, but it gets old.

Now I don’t join fractal groups with anyone having same guild tag.

Anet needs to respond to this issue with a fix.. Its getting extremely old. It needs to take 4 players to vote kick someone and it should have a reason box listed like in WoW so abuse can be reported.

Edit: All you can really do is file a bug report as you can’t click them anymore to report :/ Party chat is deleted when you get kicked back to LA…..

(edited by LuRkEr.9462)

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Posted by: Shye.5123

Shye.5123

The issue with 4 needed to kick creates a similar issue where someone can bring a friend/guildie so that the vote will never be passed. I am not sure if this is against the rules, but perhaps lists should be made of guilds who abuse this system.

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Posted by: Ioflux.4369

Ioflux.4369

You don’t say a word? I wonder if they’re trying to communicate strats with you and you “dont say a word”. Communication in group environments is key. If you arent communicating, you’re risking yourself to mold together as a group.

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Posted by: Ursan.7846

Ursan.7846

Take screenshots when you’re in a party with others in the same guild, and report if they do it.

If 4 votes are needed, a 2 -player team can easily troll the other 3 players, while 4 people in a guild can still kick a 5th. Won’t really fix anything.

Just take screenshots and report.

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Posted by: fony.5102

fony.5102

the current system is the best option. minimal input from the group is required. sometimes you need to be rid of someone toxic, and you need to be able to do that.

keep the current system as is. you don’t want some kitten ruining the group and not be able to be booted easily. those getting trolled(the ones who are telling the WHOLE story in the first place and are innocent) suck it up and move on. be glad that you can also kick the raging dickheads and other unsavory characters.

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Posted by: LuRkEr.9462

LuRkEr.9462

“You don’t say a word? I wonder if they’re trying to communicate strats with you and you “dont say a word”. Communication in group environments is key. If you arent communicating, you’re risking yourself to mold together as a group.”

Of course I would communicate during for strategies, though most groups go off without a hitch and not much needs to be said.

I do like the screenshot idea though, I will start taking pictures at the beginning to report the griefers. I just always forget and often don’t even look at the names of the people I am partying with, or don’t remember, just the guild tags. Cross server runs anyway so often times I will never see them again.

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Posted by: Clouded Judgement.7834

Clouded Judgement.7834

I wonder how people find these parties? Ive done over 30 LFG’s and never got booted once, or for that matter ever seen them boot anyone else.

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Posted by: vespers.1759

vespers.1759

i think 3 is the happy medium. 2 is just a joke.

Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.

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Posted by: LuRkEr.9462

LuRkEr.9462

“I wonder how people find these parties? Ive done over 30 LFG’s and never got booted once, or for that matter ever seen them boot anyone else.”

Maybe I am just unlucky I use gw2lfg.com though. With how many people do fractals and use that site its probably just a streak of bad luck. Never ran into them until a few weeks ago.

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Posted by: vespers.1759

vespers.1759

I wonder how people find these parties? Ive done over 30 LFG’s and never got booted once, or for that matter ever seen them boot anyone else.

neither have i, but just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t make it a non-issue. just saying…

Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.

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Posted by: JJBigs.8456

JJBigs.8456

yea this scares me into not even saying what i want because im afraid of being kicked if i do anything wrong or say anything people disagree with

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

mosspit.8936

Worst part is – they could already have the intention to kick on the first fractual due to whatever reason and proceed to troll you by kicking at Jade Maw.

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Posted by: joeytan.3865

joeytan.3865

If you want dungeon kicking to go(atleast for FOTM) then make sure players can only join lvls in their own tier. So for example lvl 1-9 is one tier, lvl 10-19 is another. Make sure a player from the first tier can’t join the second one.
Anyway if I find someone sucky, i don think i’ll bother keeping him till Maw, then kick him. Probably kick him straight away and post on gw2lfg for another guy.

For other dungeons, they can simply come up with something like right clicking on the player so that we can inspect him, to see what gear he’s suing and what his build. Also maybe have an achievement section or something which shows how many times he has done that dungeon. Asking players to link stuff is never gonna work or be honest and tell us exactly what they are using is never gonna work.

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Posted by: Yasi.9065

Yasi.9065

Optimal solution would be for community not to abuse this feature.

But as this is the “real” world and not Utopia:
- One solution could be to add an internal counter which denies reward (loot and level up) if you havent done any “normal” fractal before Jade Maw or
- another solution would be to deactivate voting for kick function in 3rd fractal and Jade Maw.

Neither is the perfect solution, but they would minimize the time wasted by the one getting kicked from grp and increasing the time those anti-social sycophants have to spend doing something for their reward.

Posting Guildtags will do nothing. It might have worked in medieval times (but I rather doubt that, humans being well… humans even then) but it sure wont work in a virtual world where you can change your “spots” with one click

But you all do realize that this is griefplay and as such you can report them? Just take a screenshot at the beginning of each fractal run so you have those names and report them. After that it’s up to Anet to “fix” this situation.

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Posted by: Rufirias.2815

Rufirias.2815

Kicking ppl during the dungeon have to be fixed ASAP. Maybe ANet should remove kick option when party is already in dungeon? We were able to play gw1 without this option so we wouldn’t be in gw2?

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Posted by: ArcTheFallen.7682

ArcTheFallen.7682

Kicking ppl during the dungeon have to be fixed ASAP. Maybe ANet should remove kick option when party is already in dungeon? We were able to play gw1 without this option so we wouldn’t be in gw2?

You can’t really remove kicking for the possibility of ppl who grief or go afk inside the dungeon.

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Posted by: JJBigs.8456

JJBigs.8456

You guys have me so paranoid now every time i see people from the same guild but so far no problems. Still sketch.

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Posted by: Rufirias.2815

Rufirias.2815

Kicking ppl during the dungeon have to be fixed ASAP. Maybe ANet should remove kick option when party is already in dungeon? We were able to play gw1 without this option so we wouldn’t be in gw2?

You can’t really remove kicking for the possibility of ppl who grief or go afk inside the dungeon.

Griefing is bannable, you can take screenshots and use the report option. ANet can possibly add a bot that kicks idle players.

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Posted by: Folk.2093

Folk.2093

never happened to me yet either.

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Posted by: Rufirias.2815

Rufirias.2815

never happened to me yet either.

It happened to me today. We killed the jade maw and one second after that we found ourselves in LA, because they kicked our party leader and no one got his reward.

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Posted by: LuRkEr.9462

LuRkEr.9462

never happened to me yet either.

It happened to me today. We killed the jade maw and one second after that we found ourselves in LA, because they kicked our party leader and no one got his reward.

This is hilarious. Its funny it back fired on some people, but generally people who are planning on doing it create the instance. I really like the idea above about disabling kicking after the 3rd or on the 4th fractal. Just to many who like to be griefers.

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Posted by: xev.9476

xev.9476

The last time I logged into WoW was sometime in 2009, so I may have this wrong, but I’m pretty sure if you kicked someone from a party while in a heroic the kicked member stayed in the instance for 60 seconds. Perhaps that might solve a lot of the issues here? Unfortunately, I’ve been in groups where an underperforming player has been suddenly kicked during the last 5% of the final boss’s hp. If the kicked member had a 60 second buffer to finish killing the boss and get the chest/loot, however, I’m not sure we’d be seeing the onslaught of threads begging for redress.

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Posted by: DeathPanel.8362

DeathPanel.8362

A fix can be to just make it a majority vote. While it doesn’t prevent guild teams of 3 from doing it, it alleviates the problem so it isn’t as abusive.

Bottom line is you can’t really fix bad people or their behavior since this type of thing is hard to document and impossible to report on so the only thing you can do is lessen the frequency by raising the threshold.