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Posted by: Erebus.9276

Erebus.9276

I don’t always sell dungeons, but when I do, tryhard ninja casuals ruin my day.

We are many. We are legion.

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Posted by: Anierna.6918

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Winner. Saving this post in case it gets deleted.

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Posted by: rojak.1894

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So true list, #2 tho gets my 10/10 hahaa.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

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We are legion.

Too far.

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Posted by: Minigrump.4961

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What is usually the outcome of this happening on the lfg?

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Posted by: Erebus.9276

Erebus.9276

Person joins party. Person pays. Repeat till party fills. Seller kills the boss. Finished.

Or someone merge kills the sellers instance.

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Posted by: Erebus.9276

Erebus.9276

We are legion.

Too far.

Assimilate. Assimilate or be terminated.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

We are legion.

Too far.

Assimilate. Assimilate or be terminated.

You don’t have enough badges to train me. >:(

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Posted by: laharl.8435

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Selling for 5g solo? They’re probably swim exploiting.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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Happy people get the dungeon tokens they want, and happy people get the gold they want. It’s a really great thing. The only unhappy people are tryhard casual ninja BHBs.

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Posted by: Agony.3542

Agony.3542

The outcome is usually the solo person getting kicked out of his dungeon by some ninja bhbknights. Sucks, but selling a path without fillers is just asking to get griefed. But hey, a nice way to “control” the path selling, isn’kitten

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

this thread merged made me facepalm so hard. How is Dungeon Selling and a thread about different Playstyles (play how you want), any related AT ALL?

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Posted by: Anierna.6918

Anierna.6918

What can you say? It’s Moderator Logic. lol

EDIT: someone call Danicia to fix it? =D

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Posted by: Agony.3542

Agony.3542

Wow someone please report that mod for trolling…
The “Play how I want” discussion hast nothing to do with dungeon selling/kicking sellers by abusing the lfg system.
I hope that happend by mistake and was not the original intention, otherwise we could really call the moderation as “mod how we want”.

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Posted by: Syn Sity.5826

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This is probably the funniest thing a mod has ever done on these forums.

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

I read the OP…. Then… I saw nothing about it. I was trolled. Is it April fools day?

Anyway, if I wasn’t such a filthy casual I’d be selling paths too. Unfortunately, I’m a baddie

But this merging is hilariously bad. CC Danicia! PLOX fix?

You don’t know me.

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Posted by: Erebus.9276

Erebus.9276

PM me if you boot path sellers. Send your address and name. I’ll be with you shortly.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Well, obviously you have to play how you want to sell dungeon paths, right guise?

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Ok, I’m seriously confused a to why my topic about wether playing meta isn’t also playing how you want was merged into a discussion about selling dungeon paths. Because frankly it had absolutely nothing to do with that? at least as far as i was concerned when I created the topic.

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Posted by: Erebus.9276

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Ok, I’m seriously confused a to why my topic about wether playing meta isn’t also playing how you want was merged into a discussion about selling dungeon paths. Because frankly it had absolutely nothing to do with that? at least as far as i was concerned when I created the topic.

The content of a thread outweighs its title!

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Posted by: derenault.9043

derenault.9043

LFG is ripe with warriors selling P1 through P4 in Arah for in-game gold. This is nothing new, since it was done with endgame content in GW1 (The Great Destroyer, Shiro Tagachi….) Does anyone see contradiction anywhere to the user agreement in this, since it is for in-game gold and not real world money? Should one or more classes be allowed to do this, considering the objectives the developers have advertised for this game?
This is a case where I hate the game, not the players. Clearly, Arena Net has created a major design flaw in allowing specific classes to roll endgame content, and then sell the coup de grace to other players so they can get credit for work they didn’t do.

I encourage developers to look at this carefully, and fix this to exclude ANY class from taking advantage of an unbalanced means of in-game income, and a ‘taxi’ service for the less courageous players out there.

Discuss?

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Posted by: joey the creator.3587

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i see more, mesmer thiefs eles and necros selling p2 than warrior because they use their blink skill to go underwater and i sell p3 + 4 most days on my guardian, i personally see no problem with warrior

Edit: why was a post about warriors being “op” at selling arah merged with whether selling is illegal

Quit gw2. Casually play gw1 when I have spare time.

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

Just want to update this, I have contacted support as I said and yet again got the following answer…

Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars 2 Support Team.

As we mentioned previously, Dungeon Sellers and Dungeon Buyers are considered Real Money Traders, which is a violation of the User Agreement.

We recommend you not to do it or purchase.

Hope this information was helpful, If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Regards,

Guild Wars 2 Support Team

This was send to me exactly 30 minutes ago…

In the mail I’ve made a clear statement (not to be missed) that I’m speaking of the ingame currency “Gold”. Yes, the answer was given by the same GM as last time…

In response I’ve send them this link about the Gaile post:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Selling-dungeons-is-allowed/first#post3046958

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Whoever replied obviously misunderstood you and thought you were asking about selling dungeons for real money.

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Posted by: Casmurro.9046

Casmurro.9046

i see more, mesmer thiefs eles and necros selling p2 than warrior because they use their blink skill to go underwater and i sell p3 + 4 most days on my guardian, i personally see no problem with warrior

Edit: why was a post about warriors being “op” at selling arah merged with whether selling is illegal

Guardians also have a blink skill that works on… you know…

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

another update:
Hello,

Thanks for providing that information.

We reviewed the thread you sent us, and there is no official response from a moderator.

Hope the information we provided previously was helpful.

Regards,

Guild Wars 2 Support Team

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

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Edit: why was a post about warriors being “op” at selling arah merged with whether selling is illegal

It was also merged with a thread about the ‘play how you want’ controversy. For reasons unknown to anyone.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

another update:
Hello,

Thanks for providing that information.

We reviewed the thread you sent us, and there is no official response from a moderator.

Hope the information we provided previously was helpful.

Regards,

Guild Wars 2 Support Team

Support team fail. Trust me.

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

Latest Update:
Hello,

We understand there is no real money trading involved in the transactions you described. If players choose to conduct a transaction outside of the Trading Post (the only authorize way to trade), we will not get involved in the transaction, these includes dungeon selling and buying.

We always try to alleviate issues with unfulfilled transactions and to reduce scamming and other potential negative outcomes related to player-to-player transactions. Which is the reason why, we do not recommend you to perform or request these type of actions.

However, we will not attempt to uphold private agreements through such means as moving items or gold between accounts.

If you have additional questions please let us know.

Regards,
Guild Wars 2 Support Team


Am I to state of this it’s not illegal but may result in an account ban if stuff goes wrong? aka scamming??

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Basically its ok as long as both partys have a mutual trust agreement. If one screws the other, they can be reported for scamming but Anet won’t restore lost gold or items.

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Ok, I’m seriously confused a to why my topic about wether playing meta isn’t also playing how you want was merged into a discussion about selling dungeon paths. Because frankly it had absolutely nothing to do with that? at least as far as i was concerned when I created the topic.

The content of a thread outweighs its title!

Ok, maybe I shoud have refrained from writing my last sentence because I’m actually aware of that. Which is why I reread every single post of the topics and neither ever even drifted into the direction of the other.
I need a confused smiley.

Edit:
Oh and on a side note: In the PM informing me about the merging, the reason given for it was: “Threads merged”. In what world is “Threads merged” a reason for anything as opposed to a simple restating of the fact that the topics were merged?
I’m starting to feel beyond confused (and I still need that smiley).

If you happen to stumble across any typos,
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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

I don’t know. What happened with Lilith and CC Danicia still gives me hope.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

I don’t know. What happened with Lilith and CC Danicia still gives me hope.

It was a Christmas miracle. A glitch in the Matrix.

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

People who follow the meta are willing to change as soon as the meta changes. People who are labeled as ‘play how you want’ players are adamant about NOT changing, regardless of any factors that doesn’t revolve around their own stubborn desire to run what they want.

People who follow the meta = Open-minded. Always looking to change their builds to improve and optimize.

‘Play how you want’ = Picks their own builds and refuses to listen to suggestions from people on how to improve their build, regardless of reasoning or mathematical proofs.

Is it really that hard to understand?

You are aware that your argument can easily be turned around?

People who follow the meta: single mindedly follow the path of min-maxing, refusing to listen to others about what might make the game more enjoyable.

play how you want: open minded people who don’t just follow the dogma of min-maxing for efficiency but enjoy the diversity the game has to offer.

And before we go to mathematical proofs again: There has yet to be found a mathematical equation for fun that works for everyone.

As I said, I believe there are different pphilosophies as to what exactly constututes fun in GW2 – yes, I’m hung up on the fun factor because I still refuse the notion to play a game as a hobby if it isn’t fun. I’m single minded like that.
Well, maybe except for the underground fractal. I rarely enjoy that and still slog through it. Maybe I’m at least a bit open minded when it comes to communist mole-people. Shocking as that may be. Anyway, back to topic.

And if those philosophies meet each other, in a pug for example, both sides might suffer.
Maybe I should change the topic as a general call for meta-players and non-meta-players not to play with each other, unless BOTH sides are basolutely sure, that all affected parties aren’t bothered by the other sides playstyle.

On the other hand, the topic of the htread was already changed to “Is selling dungeon paths for gold illegal”, so it might be to late any reconsideration on my part…

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

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Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

I don’t know. What happened with Lilith and CC Danicia still gives me hope.

It was a Christmas miracle. A glitch in the Matrix.

I’m now being the nicest person ever because I want there to be more glitches.

You don’t know me.

#LilithFan#1

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

I don’t know. What happened with Lilith and CC Danicia still gives me hope.

It was a Christmas miracle. A glitch in the Matrix.

I’m now being the nicest person ever because I want there to be more glitches.

No. You’re one bad girl because due to that second acount of yours I now have check for even more names if I want to read something interesting or funny.
One. Bad. Girl.

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

Silberfisch, it’s the dungeon forum. Dont expect anything but trolling moderators and unreasonable infractions. (i’m probably getting one just for writing this!)

I don’t know. What happened with Lilith and CC Danicia still gives me hope.

It was a Christmas miracle. A glitch in the Matrix.

I’m now being the nicest person ever because I want there to be more glitches.

No. You’re one bad girl because due to that second acount of yours I now have check for even more names if I want to read something interesting or funny.
One. Bad. Girl.

Lol!

You don’t know me.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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I’m a bad girl, too

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

I’m a bad girl, too

I sure hope so.

Haha. I love what direction this thread has gone.

You don’t know me.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Moderators are on vacations anyways, lets start a text adventure. Context: arah pugging

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

This one time I ran Arah p4 with a guild group.

…I would have been better off pugging,

Does that count?

You don’t know me.

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Posted by: Ephemeral.5409

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This one time I ran Arah p4 with a guild group.

…I would have been better off pugging,

Does that count?

lol, it’s the same thing with my guild. The other day, they were putting together a group for P2, and I thought kitten it, much faster than soloing and these guys couldn’t be worse than pugs. They couldn’t make most of the skips so I ended up soloing most of the path anyway, along with alphard and lupi.

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

Haha. Luckily I left that guild when I transferred servers….

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Posted by: colesy.8490

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Today I did Arah with some guy who probably put my level of aggressiveness and condescension to shame. When he died at crusher/hunter he was like “well I can solo this when I actually try”, he didn’t dodge the mark detonation at magecrusher that much and he (along with three others) faceplanted at Lupi so I solo’d phase 3.

Sure, I’d probably run with the guy again, but it’s a little reminder to everyone to not try to act too big if you’re just going to faceplant, I mean I’ve had that experience once with a forumer I won’t name (they weren’t kitteny but they complained about pugs on here and they ended up just being a GS camping warrior, lolwut, and there’s another example I won’t go in to), and I’m sure people were tragically disappointed when they did dungeons with me and learnt that I’m actually capable of dying.

Arah though … I’m seriously much happier duo or 3-manning it with like guildies or something rather than pugging, me and guan today had to boot basically the entire team because they aggro’d a mage when we were stacking on the ooze and obviously weren’t experience, and would have just died on Lupicus melee.

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

Oof, lol. This is why I’m terrified to run with any of the forum sexies. Hehe.

;)

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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Today I did Arah with some guy who probably put my level of aggressiveness and condescension to shame. When he died at crusher/hunter he was like “well I can solo this when I actually try”, he didn’t dodge the mark detonation at magecrusher that much and he (along with three others) faceplanted at Lupi so I solo’d phase 3.

Sure, I’d probably run with the guy again, but it’s a little reminder to everyone to not try to act too big if you’re just going to faceplant, I mean I’ve had that experience once with a forumer I won’t name (they weren’t kitteny but they complained about pugs on here and they ended up just being a GS camping warrior, lolwut, and there’s another example I won’t go in to), and I’m sure people were tragically disappointed when they did dungeons with me and learnt that I’m actually capable of dying.

Arah though … I’m seriously much happier duo or 3-manning it with like guildies or something rather than pugging, me and guan today had to boot basically the entire team because they aggro’d a mage when we were stacking on the ooze and obviously weren’t experience, and would have just died on Lupicus melee.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=colesy

lmao I just died laughing reading this colesy

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Posted by: LittleLepton.8915

LittleLepton.8915

Oh dear lord. Guys guys!

….play nice.

Rule #1 don’t run Arah with anyone.
Rule #2 don’t pug any dungeon with anyone
Rule #3 giggle all day on the forums.

:)

You don’t know me.

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Posted by: Judge Banks.9018

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Legal, in fact if the dungeons required any sort of skill, and the rewards reflected this, I bet players could even score a bit of RMT action if their guild was good enough.

The best part is when it boils over into RMT, literally nothing can be done to enforce any rules that prevent against such situations.