Guild Wars 2

So I am aware that the engineer meta build uses grenades, elixir gun and flamethrower. I was wondering, though, if it wouldn’t be too much of an overall dps loss (party and personal) to take thumper turret in place of e-gun. The blowback cancelling of acid bomb has always felt wonky as hell to me and half the time I fly back further than intended.

For a possible opener for bosses I was thinking of something like: napalm>flame blast>place thumper>overcharge thumper>blast thumper>rumble>grenade barrage>flame blast.

Let me know what you guys think about 15 stacks of party might with the turret vs 6 party might (I believe) from the meta rotation with the damage from acid bomb.

Thumper turret suffers from a very long cooldown on both it and its toolbelt skill. If you can’t cancel acid bomb due to connectivity issues, consider using Throw Mine instead, for its high damage toolbelt skill, vulnerability, and blast finisher. Just be careful and remember that it does knock back foes, and will scatter trash mobs or bosses without defiance stacks if placed incorrectly.

You should also be using Flame Blast (FT #2, remember to detonate it) for its damage and blast finisher, so you can maintain over 12 stacks of might with your firefield alone (Throw Mine, Flame Blast, Healing Turret, Flame Blast) and more if others provide fields.

Probably should have mentioned detonating the flame blast (just kind of took it for granted).

I’d be curious if anyone has a list of all the coefficients and maybe times on some of the attacks. I noticed toolkit’s crowbar hits decently hard and an extra condition. And the toolbelt skill doesn’t look bad.

Personally in that situation I’ve been going bomb kit for the extra fire field. I’m with you that sometimes elixer gun is simply more trouble than it’s worth. When I screw it up consistently on one fight I usually drop it for the rest of the dungeon, but I can usually pull it off just fine.

I’m honestly finding elixers are often worth taking to help support a team… but that’s with imperfect groups.

If you are ‘prestacking might’ (ie before engaging combat), have bomb kit out, go 2 → toolbelt – switch to flame thrower, then that combo. You can also swap in Thumper, use the toolbelt, then swap it out as well.

As an aside, I like the elixir kit for reasons outside of acid bomb (whcih I still use, and I enjoy its damage boost). Its 5 and 3 are amazing in pugs… condi cleanse, and heals can make or break a fight if your group isn’t fantastic.

Raina.8642:

If you are ‘prestacking might’ (ie before engaging combat), have bomb kit out, go 2 -> toolbelt – switch to flame thrower, then that combo. You can also swap in Thumper, use the toolbelt, then swap it out as well.

As an aside, I like the elixir kit for reasons outside of acid bomb (whcih I still use, and I enjoy its damage boost). Its 5 and 3 are amazing in pugs… condi cleanse, and heals can make or break a fight if your group isn’t fantastic.

Was just about to post that. also 4 is a great " Screw you guys I’m going home" skill.

No kidding Don. Theres nothing more fun then being on TS with a couple of mates, prestacking might at Kohler in AC as one of them pulls… and I blow myself into the water…

100% someone goes “Bye Calach”… and thats that. Hilarious though!

I prefer shooting myself into the lava in SE p1 myself. That and messing up my cancel inside one of the bubbles in TA forward. Honestly, I prefer Grenade Kit/Bomb Kit/Elixir Gun myself, less might than FT overall but much better at dealing with trash and far less complicated rotation.

@Jerus, I’ve been doing some tests in HotM to see if coefficients line up with what wiki has them at for our big skills, will report back later.

Thumper turret wouldn’t work as well and would definitely be a dps loss. Acid bomb hits hard and is unblockable, thumper turret won’t come near it.

Acid bomb hits nearly as hard as Hundred Blades. Unlike Hundred Blades it isn’t a channeled skill, so while the Acid Bomb damage is ticking, you are able to do other attacks. Imagine a warrior who was able to use a Hundred Blades and while that is channeling he can swap to axe and do an axe auto chain at the same time.

So yeah, that is how over the top OP Acid Bomb is. If you don’t use Acid Bomb you might as well not be playing Engineer.

^ I second this.

hybrid.5027:

Acid bomb hits nearly as hard as Hundred Blades. Unlike Hundred Blades it isn’t a channeled skill, so while the Acid Bomb damage is ticking, you are able to do other attacks. Imagine a warrior who was able to use a Hundred Blades and while that is channeling he can swap to axe and do an axe auto chain at the same time.

So yeah, that is how over the top OP Acid Bomb is. If you don’t use Acid Bomb you might as well not be playing Engineer.

As much as I agree, I still drop it when I start killing myself (and sometimes my group) with it

hybrid.5027:

Acid bomb hits nearly as hard as Hundred Blades. Unlike Hundred Blades it isn’t a channeled skill, so while the Acid Bomb damage is ticking, you are able to do other attacks. Imagine a warrior who was able to use a Hundred Blades and while that is channeling he can swap to axe and do an axe auto chain at the same time.

So yeah, that is how over the top OP Acid Bomb is. If you don’t use Acid Bomb you might as well not be playing Engineer.

It’s tricky for some fights though. If your target is really mobile (Mossman for example) and you’re pugging, AB barely gets in two ticks.

Raina.8642:

No kidding Don. Theres nothing more fun then being on TS with a couple of mates, prestacking might at Kohler in AC as one of them pulls… and I blow myself into the water…

100% someone goes “Bye Calach”… and thats that. Hilarious though!

Ehehe, funny stuff
I usualy just rub my back against the wall so I prevent that same thing, or when bad connection kicks in.
Also, dont you ppl like giving mini heartattacks to your grp members in grawl fractals at last boss while using acid bomb in the last moment when he dives? Thats gold to me!