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Posted by: MHo.1056

MHo.1056

Hi all,

i want to decide for myself, if the cost-benefit ratio of ascended armor is it worth to craft it.

I think, that Anet has implemented ascended armor really poorly. These are some of the things that are holding me back to get it:

- they look ugly
- i already have a nice looking armor-skin-mix and don´t want to change it
- i don´t want to pay for making it look like it is now
- i don´t enjoy temple events or world-bosses
- i want to sell exotic-drops or throw them in the mystic toilet and not salvage them for globs of dark matter
- i don´t wanna be a forest warden and take care of the woods in low-level-areas
- i don´t wanna be a dwarf and work all day in mines in low-level-areas
- i enjoy FotM less since the update, so i think i won´t need the slots for agony-resistance
- i don´t like crafting A after crafting B, C, D and E as an requirement for crafting F and G that is only half of A and i have to … once per day …
- i want to play how i want

BUT, i couldn´t live with being too much “not optimal”. I usually don´t play with perfect groups (did i ever?), but i have the claim to be as “optimal” as possible.

So i took the calculations of effective power as help for a descision (see screenshots) and want to know, if i did it right and if it made the right conclusions.

What i´ve got it this:
- full exotic zerker is less than 2% weaker than full ascended zerker
- if i take only two ascendend pieces, it is less than 0,5% weaker than full ascended and less than 0,6% weaker than the most optimal armor-setup

What i realized:
- to optimize EP you have to get to 100%-crit-chance as near as possible (but don´t pass it)
- if a ranger with spotter joins your group you may have to switch precision-stacks to bloodlust-stacks or precision-food to power-food.

So, i possibly could live with exotic armor being less than 2% weaker, but i think i will craft two ascended pieces.
I am optimistic that i may survive doing the temple-events for those two pieces, as i have done it before for some ascended weapons.

I know, that for most people of the dungeon-community nothing of the above said is new in any way. Only for my own sanity if have to ask you:

- Are my calculatinons correct?
- Are my conclusions correct?

thx for your attention

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Posted by: MHo.1056

MHo.1056

anyone? :-)

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Just work towards them slowly. You will get there eventually. Its not really worth it unless you plan to do fractals when they raise the cap though.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

… Man.
Don’t do it.
Just don’t. I wasted like #00g on a full armor and I regret it so much you can’t even imagine. What are you going to do if your gear set is rendered useless? Are you willing to spend 300g or more, and are you willing to do it again on multiple sets (in case they nerf one) for a 1-2% stat increase?
You have the power to decide, but you might end up looking in disgust at it. I crafted it even if I had your same list of things I didn’t like, and really… so pointless.
More pointless that buying a pretty skin, if you ask me.
… Or of course you could slowly work towards it, yeah, but the amount of grind and money required won’t be rendered smaller. It’ll simply be less of a burden.

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Posted by: Nosoyelarty.7268

Nosoyelarty.7268

I am in the same situation than OP but i want to add another question.

If i am just going to stick with exotic armor, what stats should i get to be more optimal as a 30/25 warrior? Just stay with full berserker or i still need to swap to some assassin pieces? how many of them? which ones?

I didn’t want to make another thread, sorry for asking things here~

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Nike recommends assassins helm chest and legs. I did that and kind of regret it because they are useless on world bosses, nightmare tree and so on. The difference is minor for regular stuff but its a larger difference on non crit stuff.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Nike recommends assassins helm chest and legs. I did that and kind of regret it because they are useless on world bosses, nightmare tree and so on. The difference is minor for regular stuff but its a larger difference on non crit stuff.

LOG BACK IN YOU FILTHY BRIT! NOW!

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Posted by: CptAurellian.9537

CptAurellian.9537

Nike recommends assassins helm chest and legs. I did that and kind of regret it because they are useless on world bosses, nightmare tree and so on. The difference is minor for regular stuff but its a larger difference on non crit stuff.

Yes, I’m happy that I arrived at the decision to stay with full zerker. IIRC, the difference was +0.07 % for crittable targets, but it’s more than -1.5 % for structures.

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Posted by: Nosoyelarty.7268

Nosoyelarty.7268

Ah you have a good point there, i will probably just stay with exotic berserkers then.

Thanks for the answers~

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Posted by: CptAurellian.9537

CptAurellian.9537

At least for the moment, that’s the most sensible approach. Who knows what kind of crap they’ll produce when they start to address the berserker issue.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

At least for the moment, that’s the most sensible approach. Who knows what kind of crap they’ll produce when they start to address the berserker issue.

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Posted by: MHo.1056

MHo.1056

Many thx for your answers and advices.

Unfortunately, i just crafted an ascended chest armor, right before i noticed Anets commentary on berserker armor:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/PvE-Revising-the-DPS-Meta

So i won´t do anything unless i know if i can continue playing the game or not.

I have the bad feeling, that Anet will do their next big mistake and just nerf berserker-gear.

All of my 6 toons are full zerker with exotic/ asxended quality. So i spent some time/ money/ efford to get it.
If they nerf it in a way that this gear becomes obsolete, i would just quit playing.

Another point: Is this the right time for changes? I think it would have been better BEFORE introducing ascended weapons and armor.
Oh wait, no, it fits perfectly in Anets money-sink-system.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Wise choice.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

You may not believe the stats are worth it at the moment, but notice that Ascended gear has infusion slots while exotic doesnt. Infusion stats are maxed out at +5 right now, but you can almost guarantee that Anet will implement infusion slot stat grind next. It’s +5 now, probably +7 next, then +10, etc.

So you’d best start the grind now else risk missing the grind train.