Guild Wars 2

I know a lot of uberl33t players are going to say “but I never go down the dungeons are so easy”, but I think it’d be great for ANet to give players a bonus chest at the end if they never wiped on a run. It’d encourage people to res allies quickly and be more careful in encounters.

Definition of a wipe: Everyone is DEAD (not downed) all at once prior to the completion of the dungeon.

Plus, I always think dungeons are more fun when you have an incentive to stay alive other than measly repair costs.

I think said ‘uberl33t’ players would be stupid to argue against free loot.

+1 for free loot!

True. Even non-uberl33t players will happily take such a reward for not screwing up, even though I’m not exactly sure whether that should be rewarded. But well, it’s probably well in line with all that achievement stuff.

I’d rather not encourage cleric guardians. Maybe mix it with a timer to complete the run in a certain amount of time. Make it a bit more challenging with better loot.

InfinitySoul.9240:

I’d rather not encourage cleric guardians. Maybe mix it with a timer to complete the run in a certain amount of time. Make it a bit more challenging with better loot.

Seriously?

You don’t want to encourage diversity?

Because right now all there is is DPS Zerkers.

If “diversity” means “bads”, then no, we do not want to encourage bad play.

Time Glitch.2460:

InfinitySoul.9240:

I’d rather not encourage cleric guardians. Maybe mix it with a timer to complete the run in a certain amount of time. Make it a bit more challenging with better loot.

Seriously?

You don’t want to encourage diversity?

Because right now all there is is DPS Zerkers.

I don’t mind diversity, but what i’d like is viability in those builds, right now zerker is king in organised groups and before running other builds is viable changes have to be made to make them so.

Seems this thread derailed fairly quick.

Anyway, I’d like extra loot for not wiping too! +1

That’d be great indeed, anyway I’m scared by what could happen with pugs going even more tanky/healers because of that^^

I especially support this for fotm.
Would be great to get a reward for not wiping in fotm 48.
Hell it would be great to get any reward that is worthwhile now that I think about it

I would love this. There were similar systems in DDO which I enjoyed greatly.

I think time-related bonuses would also be nice.

I’m not saying no to this.

Not a bad idea, I think an extra reward for holding 25 life stacks would be better though!

Bad idea.

This would not address the zerker problem, while encouraging more elitist behaviour. Casuals would be even more discriminated against, and being blamed and hated for wiping and losing the bonus.

Seeing how MF was removed, this is not going to happen.

Zerker is not a problem.

AntiGw.9367:

Bad idea.

This would not address the zerker problem, while encouraging more elitist behaviour. Casuals would be even more discriminated against, and being blamed and hated for wiping and losing the bonus.

Seeing how MF was removed, this is not going to happen.

People like you are an actual problem, while “zerker” is not.

There’s no zerker problem. Repeat after me.

haviz.1340:

There’s no zerker problem. Repeat after me.

There is no Clerics problem.

Give more reason to kick people with low achievement in a pug.

AntiGw.9367:

Bad idea.

This would not address the zerker problem, while encouraging more elitist behaviour. Casuals would be even more discriminated against, and being blamed and hated for wiping and losing the bonus.

Seeing how MF was removed, this is not going to happen.

Where did the OP stated it was meant to adress the “zerk problem” in any shape or form?

Also:

There is no zerk problem.

(only a content design one)

AndrewSX.3794:

AntiGw.9367:

Bad idea.

This would not address the zerker problem, while encouraging more elitist behaviour. Casuals would be even more discriminated against, and being blamed and hated for wiping and losing the bonus.

Seeing how MF was removed, this is not going to happen.

Where did the OP stated it was meant to adress the “zerk problem” in any shape or form?

Also:

There is no zerk problem.

(only a content design one)

It was mentioned later in the topic. Perhaps you should read it.

Also, there is a zerk problem.

AntiGw.9367:

AndrewSX.3794:

AntiGw.9367:

Bad idea.

This would not address the zerker problem, while encouraging more elitist behaviour. Casuals would be even more discriminated against, and being blamed and hated for wiping and losing the bonus.

Seeing how MF was removed, this is not going to happen.

Where did the OP stated it was meant to adress the “zerk problem” in any shape or form?

Also:

There is no zerk problem.

(only a content design one)

It was mentioned later in the topic. Perhaps you should read it.

Also, there is a zerk problem.

There is only you.

Emanuel.9781:

There is only you.

Repeat after us.

haviz.1340:

Emanuel.9781:

There is only you.

Repeat after us.

I’m no sheep, there is a zerker problem.

There is a problem.
With people.

Wukunlin.8461:

I’m no sheep, there is a zerker problem.

Actually, race reference, you could be a sheep

I dont like this idea at all…
why should people better than me get an extra reward?

I agree. These evil elitist already get huge rewards with their no-skill tactics. If you don’t wipe you are clearly exploiting and deserve no reward.

Harrahou.4518:

Wukunlin.8461:

I’m no sheep, there is a zerker problem.

Actually, race reference, you could be a sheep

I’m no South Island farmer.

Wukunlin.8461:

Harrahou.4518:

Wukunlin.8461:

I’m no sheep, there is a zerker problem.

Actually, race reference, you could be a sheep

I’m no South Island farmer.

Huehuehue…My race being an Arab right (just go with it) I bring my sheep everywhere with me. Much like me walking stick.

You guys crack me up.
Best end game of GW2.

SkyChef.5432:

You guys crack me up.
Best end game of GW2.

Best end game is WvW, Dungeons is a bunch of whining casuals.

Harrahou.4518:

Best end game is WvW, Dungeons is a bunch of whining casuals.

Shame Anet spent first half of game’s life ignoring it, and second half breaking it.

At least DGs are still in the “ignore” phase.

Else, i’d agree on WvW being real Gw2 endgame. But in current state…

AndrewSX.3794:

Harrahou.4518:

Best end game is WvW, Dungeons is a bunch of whining casuals.

Shame Anet spent first half of game’s life ignoring it, and second half breaking it.

At least DGs are still in the “ignore” phase.

Else, i’d agree on WvW being real Gw2 endgame. But in current state…

My post was sarcasm…I get what I want from the game I only need to be a troll on the forums.

haviz.1340:

Emanuel.9781:

There is only you.

Repeat after us.

BHBot strikes again

Oh, what did i do

As nice as this would be, I think it would create even more of a divide between “elite speed runners” and “BHBs”.

With that being said, I would not argue against it’s implementation.

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Would be nice to have more loot :-D But if anyone think this would bring more defensive builds to dungeons instead of full zerg then he is wrong becouse good zerk party never wipes.

daros.3407:

Would be nice to have more loot :-D But if anyone think this would bring more defensive builds to dungeons instead of full zerg then he is wrong becouse good zerk party never wipes.

Yeah, but bad pugs that are half zerk and half PTV wipe all the time.

I think it would just encourage pugs to have 1 person camp at beginning WP and 4man the dungeon (depending on rewards/actual mechanics)

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

AntiGw.9367:

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

THE IRONY

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

AntiGw.9367:

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

THE IRONY

You got to it before me :/

Tree.3916:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

AntiGw.9367:

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

THE IRONY

You got to it before me :/

His hate is for the better of the community, your hate is bringing everybody down.

/s

Ethics.4519:

Tree.3916:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

AntiGw.9367:

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

THE IRONY

You got to it before me :/

His hate is for the better of the community, your hate is bringing everybody down.

/s

The crab theory. Just look at all serious threads to get help in Arah & tough contents, max dps & builds for dungeons and you will notice the absent of those famous under-achievers.

You know, I think I want anet to keep ignoring the dungeons. They do more harm than anything…

deSade.9437:

You know, I think I want anet to keep ignoring the dungeons. They do more harm than anything…

Haha, you’re spot on.

Love your sig btw. That vid should be made a sticky.

champ.7021:

I dont like this idea at all…
why should people better than me get an extra reward?

Because they are better than you. I really hope you were trolling. Are you gonna cry that some guy can finish a jumping puzzle that you cant? Are you going to cry that some guy in spvp with the same build as you keeps killing you and you cant?
Though i don’t necessarily agree with OP, i really hope ANET doesn’t listen to players like you, the rewards in this game are already bad enough.

Plus, to “not wipe” in a dungeon, all it takes is a decent group composition and experienced players that have been through that content a few times.

Also, what if I enjoy running dungeons and want to repeat it, why should i not be able to get a decent reward from it. That 26s with diminishing returns – goes down to 13s + 20 kittenty badges (390 for a single weapon), replay value of dungeons is kitten, you have to wait a whole day for decent rewards. Why cant they work on finding a proper reward that wont change on the next run.

If i choose to play more on a specific day because i cant play on the next, why should I not be able to enjoy the content i want to play and get the same decent reward vs time as someone champ farming, dungeon running, playing wvw, or any other rewarding activity players spend their time on.

I honestly want the game ANET promised when they launched GW2, a grind-free game that rewards player skill.