#FIRST Whole wing cleared
‘would of been’ —> wrong
(edited by Rising Dusk.2408)
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
Weth, there’s no kill chest for Matthias. The OP broke out of the map and just landed in the temple at the end to pretend he soloed it. The mechanics of the bosses alone clearly prevent anyone from soloing everything.
Also, Weth, if you have ideas for things they could do that would make it “dynamic” while not requiring you fight other players or something, please do tell.
Add some smart AI which actively and dynamically counters what people do so people need to think what they do instead of just doing some pre-recorded rotation. Add some real strategy by bringing more unique and fun roles than just dps only.
These simple steps would easily make the raids a lot more better, fun and improved.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I feel bad for you that you think it was a legit solo
I’d feel bad for you thinking it isn’t… but who am I kidding, you cannot even think.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I literally can’t take you seriously
So you agree that I was right?
(edited by Wethospu.6437)
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
Weth, there’s no kill chest for Matthias. The OP broke out of the map and just landed in the temple at the end to pretend he soloed it. The mechanics of the bosses alone clearly prevent anyone from soloing everything.
Also, Weth, if you have ideas for things they could do that would make it “dynamic” while not requiring you fight other players or something, please do tell.
Add some smart AI which actively and dynamically counters what people do so people need to think what they do instead of just doing some pre-recorded rotation. Add some real strategy by bringing more unique and fun roles than just dps only.
These simple steps would easily make the raids a lot more better, fun and improved.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I feel bad for you that you think it was a legit solo
I’d feel bad for you thinking it isn’t… but who am I kidding, you cannot even think.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I literally can’t take you seriously
So you agree that I was right?
You wonder why none of us take your serious? Meh you got nothing and spend all your time here try and crying. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
Weth, there’s no kill chest for Matthias. The OP broke out of the map and just landed in the temple at the end to pretend he soloed it. The mechanics of the bosses alone clearly prevent anyone from soloing everything.
Also, Weth, if you have ideas for things they could do that would make it “dynamic” while not requiring you fight other players or something, please do tell.
Add some smart AI which actively and dynamically counters what people do so people need to think what they do instead of just doing some pre-recorded rotation. Add some real strategy by bringing more unique and fun roles than just dps only.
These simple steps would easily make the raids a lot more better, fun and improved.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I feel bad for you that you think it was a legit solo
I’d feel bad for you thinking it isn’t… but who am I kidding, you cannot even think.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I literally can’t take you seriously
So you agree that I was right?
You wonder why none of us take your serious? Meh you got nothing and spend all your time here try and crying. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself
The moment you take it to the personal level shows that you have no real arguments left. GG, I guess.
Add some smart AI which actively and dynamically counters what people do so people need to think what they do instead of just doing some pre-recorded rotation. Add some real strategy by bringing more unique and fun roles than just dps only.
A lot of people make the suggestion to “bring more unique and fun roles than just pure DPS”, but can you elaborate? Give some examples? In raid testing, ANet experimented with lots of roles, including having people be “runners” where they perform some side mechanic, but preliminary user experience feedback said those roles weren’t fun because you interacted with the actual boss so little.
Also, it’s easy to say “make dynamic AI”, but that ultimately boils down to people working on fixed rotations anyway once people figure out all of the possible permutations. With sufficient complexity, you might create dynamic experiences for lower-skill players, but higher-skill players will figure out the best way to manage the behaviors easily, ultimately devaluing all of the enormous development time that went into that complexity. It’s a bad design.
Just look at what PvP are doing and take inspiration from that. It’s not very difficult but I’m not here to do their jobs.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
Weth, there’s no kill chest for Matthias. The OP broke out of the map and just landed in the temple at the end to pretend he soloed it. The mechanics of the bosses alone clearly prevent anyone from soloing everything.
Also, Weth, if you have ideas for things they could do that would make it “dynamic” while not requiring you fight other players or something, please do tell.
Add some smart AI which actively and dynamically counters what people do so people need to think what they do instead of just doing some pre-recorded rotation. Add some real strategy by bringing more unique and fun roles than just dps only.
These simple steps would easily make the raids a lot more better, fun and improved.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I feel bad for you that you think it was a legit solo
I’d feel bad for you thinking it isn’t… but who am I kidding, you cannot even think.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
I have never raided but this clearly proves what a joke raiding is in this game. At least in WoW it takes months to beat raids even for top guilds. Even then I don’t understand why anyone would take pride in raids. Anyone can beat the scripted static content with enough practice. Give me truly hard content with dynamic and opponents with brains and you got me interested.
Why do you even bother voicing an opinion on something you haven’t even tried yourself?
With minor tweaks all of the W1 raid bosses could be made significantly harder, the raw mechanics are challenging but coordination and linear timing of events makes Gors for example considerably easier than he should be, cutting down the time between AoEs, especially the first one which could make the no-updraft cheese significantly harder or near impossible.
Argue all you want but if someone can get to the end solo like 1 day after the release that says something about the raids.
And that is a really weak argument. If you had played as much as PvP as I have this would be really obvious to you.
I literally can’t take you seriously
So you agree that I was right?
You wonder why none of us take your serious? Meh you got nothing and spend all your time here try and crying. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself
The moment you take it to the personal level shows that you have no real arguments left. GG, I guess.
What arguments did you really have to start with? You said that raids were to easy because someone “Soloed them”
No one soloed them. Which is what I said in my post, then you went for the personal attack. Whatever. Just go away, I am not gonna waste anymore of my life on you
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
im glad i didnt. i play this CASUAL game bc im a CASUAL player. never tryed raiding bc raids for HARDCORE player.
gg anet, even with ‘trinty’ players solo the ezpz faceroll pve. next these losers gon sell ’n scam raids just like dungons and fractal
smh
didnt anet say that HOT would have trinty? how did op solo if theres trinty? new raid sounds disapointing
Agreed. If I had knew this I would have never bought HOT.
im glad i didnt. i play this CASUAL game bc im a CASUAL player. never tryed raiding bc raids for HARDCORE player.
gg anet, even with ‘trinty’ players solo the ezpz faceroll pve. next these losers gon sell ’n scam raids just like dungons and fractal
smh
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