Guild Wars 2

I stopped playing this game for a while and started playing again last Tuesday. There are some stuff I noticed that I would to share with the community. Currently I’m at lvl 49 and have been doing my dailies at 28, 38 and 48 ever since Tuesday. Maybe I help a few of my guildies lvl as well too. So in a day I do about 3 to 5 runs.

What I have noticed is that my loot was great esp when it came to skins and chest loot on the first 2 to 3 days(maybe 4) but after that it started to suck rather bad. The frequency of chest I got without even a single yellow went up drastically and the daily chest didnt even give me one skin. Maybe 2 rings but that’s all.

So now I’m left wondering if it could be just RNG? How could it be the case if, when i started playing the loot drop was awesome but a few days on it starts to suck. That is why I am guessing that Anet has came up with a strong DR system for FOTM. In light of all their recent moves to discourage ppl away from FOTM, is this another one of them?

I can’t find the quote right now, but Anet has stated that there should be no DR in place for Fractals.

You’re not the only one with crappy loot in fractals lately, however.

It seems most of us on the forums have been hitting bad RNG there lately.

TheAngryLuddite.1834:

It seems most of us on the forums have been hitting bad RNG there lately.

This is confirmation bias. The only people who post about it on the forums are those with the bad RNG. Those with the good RNG don’t post, and so you get the false feeling that something is wrong when, in-fact, nothing is wrong.

Don’t take this the wrong way; I think Fractal chests need to be more rewarding (at least as much as world boss chests) and have posted repeatedly about that topic, but the RNG and loot for FotM hasn’t changed since it was added.

Rising Dusk.2408:

TheAngryLuddite.1834:

It seems most of us on the forums have been hitting bad RNG there lately.

This is confirmation bias. The only people who post about it on the forums are those with the bad RNG. Those with the good RNG don’t post, and so you get the false feeling that something is wrong when, in-fact, nothing is wrong.

That was actually what I was trying to get at by saying ‘most of us on the forums,’ but I phrased it poorly/incompletely.

I meant that most of us on the forums are having a bad string of RNG, hence the various posts about stuff like this. Thanks for clarifying (note: not sarcasm).

Of course, I also agree that Fractal loot tables could use a buff.

Aha, makes sense. I wasn’t sure from your post whether you were saying it like “We who post have this problem so it must be real” or, as you say, trying to convey what I got at. Glad it was cleared up regardless.

While I agree with the Fractal loot tables could use a buff, I will say I’ve been fairly lucky (lately) for the most part over the last couple weeks. I’ve found 4 ascended rings, 4-6 exotics, 8-12 rares and plenty of green/blues running Level 10-20 fracs over the last 2 weeks.

harbinger.2698:

While I agree with the Fractal loot tables could use a buff, I will say I’ve been fairly lucky (lately) for the most part over the last couple weeks. I’ve found 4 ascended rings, 4-6 exotics, 8-12 rares and plenty of green/blues running Level 10-20 fracs over the last 2 weeks.

just wait

wait till you do 26 and 30 every day and get 1 rare if you are lucky from both runs combined

EVERY EVERLOVING DAY

Pretty kitten sure the loot tables were nerfed to hell. I know that pre-patch the maw chest gave 3 rares, always. Maw chest were guaranteed to have 1-2 rares. Also the exotic drop rate were cut about half.
This is coming from someone who has 2 lv64 characters who ran lv60,50,40,30,26 fotm daily pre-patch. Drop rate has been nerfed severely, same goes with rings. I’ve ran FoTM 1k+ times, as I hit the fractal achievement of 500 months ago.
You are not seeing this, the drop rate was nerfed its not just RNG.

Whenever I go away from fotm for a couple days and come back the drops are better. I used to do a couple dailies every day but I seem to get more out of it just doing 1 every couple days. I don’t have hard backing but this has felt pretty consistent so either anet are full of kitten or it’s just another case of them not knowing what all is goin’ on under the hood.

Something seems fishy to me about FOTM. I run with the same people every day and we do fractals at least one time a day. With that being said it seems to me like there are two different loot RNG tables. Everyone in my group went over an entire week without anything decent dropping. That means no vials,globs, shards and or exotics. Then yesterday our group had 4 exotics drop and 3 globs and 12 rares. When before we were lucky if we each got 1 rare.

To me it seems like something is keeping track of drops. If feels like when you get a specified amount in a given time frame the good droops stop. And once you hit that number you are switched to a different loot table until the time it should have took to get those drops is met then you are switched back.

This is my tin foil hat theory but it seems to happen over and over. I’ll get great drops for 4 days in a row then go 7 to 9 days in a row with sub par loot.

Anyone else that does fractals regularly feeling like this?

There is a DR in FoTM. I’m not sure if it’s intentional or if it’s a bug but we are affected by it. When it strikes it does not end in 1-2 hours. It last for weeks. Day after day. You will have maybe 1 nice run per week but it will be nothing compared to the kill drop rates and chest drops that you had at the beggining.

i agree something is strange….

0-1 Yellow for a week with 1-3 daily runs.

8 yellows after patch (server reset) then 7 then 4- 3- and still decreasing.

This pattern seems to be quite common….after any patch….

(i still play it mostly for the chance at a skin)

I get 4-6 rares every single run of 48 not factoring cores, T6 mats, and the occasional exotic. It varies consistently, but some runs are better and some runs are worse. That’s how RNG goes.

Fractals for most players i expect they are a joke. You need a group. there is the problem. Guilds have some core members who look after themselves and farm the rest for REP. having been a member of 10 or so guilds ive not found one that runs events of any sort. I spec asked for active guilds and always got apositive reply. LOL.
if you LFG fractals in lions arch you will not get a reaply 9 times out of 10. if you LFM 2 for fractals you will be inundated with players. this says a lot i think. these players dont know fractals and arnt usually kitted up 4 it SO the runs almost always fail. BUT they Really really would like to play Fractals. STORY mode is a similar story FRUSTRATION FRUSTRATION ….. guilds dont work as they are basicly a selfish. the game is made 4 large groups and for some this works. but most are left out in the cold. Anet seems to have been trying to socially engineer people with pressure to group up or lose. DR seems to be leading people to the big chests, kill jormag do a fractal clear a cathedarl in ORR, but again the vast majority are out in the cold unless your lucky and see a map shout.
I personally am as you may have noticed v frustrated and am waiting another MMO as the dev team can play with them selves and the few core guild members while the rest of us whome the game ill serves move on. may be if they make guilds dependant on being useful to their members then GW2 might become playable and have some endgame. But at this moment its full of frustration and is broken, I accept for the few it works well you few carry on on your lonely sinking boat.
DR on Chests in fractals what a laugh.

Ok guys try this. Do about 3 or 4 fractals(of different tiers if possible) for about 4 or 5 days in a row. After that see if you start getting kittenty loot. Pls try it and post your results here. If your doing just 1 or 2 a day, even if its it higher tiers, don come here and say that is how RNG goes cos from what I see ppl who do a small amount of fractals in a week don’t get affected by this ‘DR’ problem.

two days ago our party got 2 globs 2 exotics and 10 rares
yesterday party got 1 exotic 2 shards and 8 rares

Hopefully i remember to post here what I get later on today. We should only get another day or two of good drops till the drop off.

joeytan.3865:

I stopped playing this game for a while and started playing again last Tuesday. There are some stuff I noticed that I would to share with the community. Currently I’m at lvl 49 and have been doing my dailies at 28, 38 and 48 ever since Tuesday. Maybe I help a few of my guildies lvl as well too. So in a day I do about 3 to 5 runs.

What I have noticed is that my loot was great esp when it came to skins and chest loot on the first 2 to 3 days(maybe 4) but after that it started to suck rather bad. The frequency of chest I got without even a single yellow went up drastically and the daily chest didnt even give me one skin. Maybe 2 rings but that’s all.

So now I’m left wondering if it could be just RNG? How could it be the case if, when i started playing the loot drop was awesome but a few days on it starts to suck. That is why I am guessing that Anet has came up with a strong DR system for FOTM. In light of all their recent moves to discourage ppl away from FOTM, is this another one of them?

It is purely RNG. Runs where I don’t get a single rare or maybe only 1 rare is not uncommon. Higher the level, the better the loot, except for me which always sucks

I do FOTM every days to increment my personal rewards and to try to have some fractal skins, but DR is become too low…yesterday in 3 run (lv 20, 30, 40) i’ve took only one rare item….now i’ve rewards level 42 and i think this is too low for my level

Rising Dusk.2408:

TheAngryLuddite.1834:

It seems most of us on the forums have been hitting bad RNG there lately.

This is confirmation bias. The only people who post about it on the forums are those with the bad RNG. Those with the good RNG don’t post, and so you get the false feeling that something is wrong when, in-fact, nothing is wrong.

Don’t take this the wrong way; I think Fractal chests need to be more rewarding (at least as much as world boss chests) and have posted repeatedly about that topic, but the RNG and loot for FotM hasn’t changed since it was added.

I’ve been getting nice stuff from fractals lately, but I agree that we need some changes. 1 in 5-6 runs I get an exotic item (lvl 20-29 runs btw), the rare drop rates aren’t that high though – tbh, I think I drop more exotic stuff than rare O.o
Masterwork and fine are OK, sometimes I have to destroy blues to make room for masterwork or better loot.

One of the solutions could be a rare drop from each boss, but that would make people farm FotM and ruin prices. It’s going to be hard to find a nice solution without breaking the economy right now.
So I’d place my bets on getting masterwork and use the mytic forge. Green items sell for 1-2 silver, so if you get at least one rare from 12 greens, you are not losing anything

Ok…people can farm FOTM, but is a long dungeon…you can need 1h to do it, if after this time i have 3/4 rare is not so much if i’ve do a 30,40,50 lv….i think they can be increase drop rate for high level or there’s no reason to level personal rewards

TheMajin.4392:

Ok…people can farm FOTM, but is a long dungeon…you can need 1h to do it, if after this time i have 3/4 rare is not so much if i’ve do a 30,40,50 lv….i think they can be increase drop rate for high level or there’s no reason to level personal rewards

Have you ever thought of doing one fractal and start again?
If they change the reward chest after each boss, you can try and get swamp, 15 mins run, pick your rares from the chest, re-enter fotm and repeat this forever.

On the other hand, I totally agree with you that the drop rate should be higher for high levels, otherwise you can keep farming lvl 20 since it’s easy and as rewarding as higher levels.

They can increase only karka chest, daily chest or put an incremental drop rate for each fractal…for example first fractal normal, second +5%, third +10% and put a base drop rate based on fractal level/personal rewards

My group has continued to get fair drops lately. Seems like every day at least one of use gets an exotic. Yesterday I personally got enough rares to get 14 ectos from salvaging. Not sure if the update’s have anything to do with this or not.

OK now I am even more sure that there is a DR system in place for FOTM and it resets everytime there is a new update. Until yesterday I was getting kitten loot and suddenly yesterday the loot was a bit more decent. Gonna keep doing dailies at 20s, 30s and 40 for a few more days and post again when the loots starts to get kittenty.

If anyone one else has the same experience pls post them here.

Well, yesterday I ran Fractals level 30+ for the first time after the patch and loot was fine again; i got 7 or so rares from mobs and a ring at the end. The weeks before the patch it would be 1-2 rares tops.

To me it definitely seems some kind of DR system is affecting drops, at least from the mobs inside fractals. Would be nice to get some sort of official statement on this matter, because with the small sample sizes it’s just guess work.

i’ve run the fractals pre and post patch (28-36) and I on average get 4-6 rare 1 exotic (usually account bound) and mostly green’s and whites(annoyingly), this is with out magic find armour, so i’l not sure how that effects the drops.