Guild Wars 2

“Magg, we need some of your expertise”
“OF COURSE!!!”

Whats yours?

You didn’t transmute your twilight? kick

“kiss my tail”
15char

listen, I think we got more spies.

" We have cleared the entrance to the citadel of flame".
Even when it is contested.

“Gear check pls”

nuff said

“Lf4 zerk wars ONLY! Have pro mes already”

or

“Why axe?”

I seriously got that one a couple times a while back as a zerker warrior from other zerker warriors.

randomfightfan.4091:

“Lf4 zerk wars ONLY! Have pro mes already”

or

That’s amazing! I’ve seen more and more axe posts too, it’s getting silly.

doesn’t axe autoattack chain dps more than greatsword 100b?

randomfightfan.4091:

“Lf4 zerk wars ONLY! Have pro mes already”

or

Epic.

Also: over 3k+ achievement points required

Like what!? Met countless of people having 5k points and they were bad.
It’s like applying for a job as a nurse and employer says “yeah, well you need advanced skills in cooking too”.

“WHERE is Kreia Irontooth?!”

“Co(ck) imposter!”

(p2, but whatever)

shimmerless.4560:

sorrychief.2563:

doesn’t axe autoattack chain dps more than greatsword 100b?

This is a question that comes up a lot and because I love science I figured I’d take a crack at answering it.

Pastebin link for all of my DPS test data

X-BOX HUGE DISCLAIMER: This is not a reflection of real-world practices and I’ll get more into this below. In a real world situation these results can be massively distorted by the presence of Forceful GS, team-sustained Might, positioning, and many more things to boot. This is merely a test to answer which, under ideal scientific conditions, does more damage per second.

Because this is only a test of ideal, perfect vacuum conditions, I’ve taken my results from test dummies in the Mists (for cast times) and in Lion’s Arch (for DPS results) because while still not perfect, they’re the best I think we have for getting hard results unaffected by uncontrolled factors.

So, which hits more?

The first task was to test and see how long each took to completely cast, from starting windup to the final damaging strike.

For 100B, I had an average of 3.58 seconds cast time (surprisingly close to the tooltip figure);
For the Axe auto chain, I had an average of 3.29 seconds cast time.

Now, for the total damage of each attack… in simple full Berzerker gear, all orange save for a single pink amulet, my tooltip in LA reads 4,881 for 100B and 3,926 for the Axe auto chain. However, based on my experiences as a Mes I really don’t trust the tooltips in this game (plus it was unclear whether the ‘final strike’ in 100b counted towards or separate from the eight strikes figure).

So, I tried testing out on target dummies in LA. As far as I know you cannot crit on dummies which makes collecting results much easier, however for the axe auto chain there isn’t an easy-to-read “total damage” bubble so I had to Fraps the footage and slow it way down to properly read the results.

On dummies:

100B’s total damage averaged at 7,292;
Axe auto chain total damage averaged at 5,366.

Given the average cast times from before, we can now say that:

100B’s average DPS: 2,037 per second;
Axe auto chain’s average DPS: 1,631 per second.

So, the Axe auto chain appears to do almost exactly 80% of the DPS for 100B.

ANOTHER HUGE DISCLAIMER: I cannot stress enough that this test does not reflect real-world practice. Real results depend on things like a good crit roll (though admittedly most of us are at ~100% crit chance anyway), how often you need to cancel the root, your Might stacks, Vuln stacks, and all manner of other things. In all honesty these tests are not a reliable substitute for a proper, authoritative combat tracker, and even then I don’t place that much value in tracker results themselves. Theorycraft has very clear limits and anyone who plays a game enough seriously can tell you this.

Two interesting things I discovered:

100B’s DPS is heavily-reliant on the bonus final strike, which appears to do double the damage of a regular 100B strike. In fact, it is so important to your overall DPS figure that if you don’t land that final strike for whatever reason, your actual DPS will go down by roughly a full fifth (from 7,292 total damage to about ~5,750, and from 2,037 DPS to approximately 1,620 DPS.

The third skill in the Axe chain, Triple Chop, appears to only roll once for the damage it’ll deal with each of the three hits. The real question this proposes is whether this applies to crits: will all three Triple Chop hits crit if the first crits, or do they roll individually. As this would be exceedingly difficult to test due to the chance-based nature of crits, I can only wonder.

You forget calculating in that the last 100b strike also has a higher acitvation time than previous strikes, that you can save roughly 0.3-0.5 seconds by finishing 100b with WA right when the last hit damage comes and that greatsword 100b hits more, therefore applies more vulnerability and also adds lots of mightstacks to yourself.

Bit wondering about your numbers. If HB did 7,292 damage and without last it should be 80% then why you said 5750 and not 5834?
Also last blow takes ~0.75 seconds
5834 / (3.58-0.75) = 2061

If I got this correctly, last hit is a dps loss (ok, it’s pretty much same and still more than other options).

I thought it’s pretty accepted that the Axe auto chain is used to replace the crappy GS auto, but GS is still there for HB/WW when off cooldown. Is that not settled yet or something?

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“very well”

Just seems very kinky

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I can’t ever make out exactly what they mumble at the beg of it but:

I THINK WE’VE GOT MOAAAARRRRRR SPIEEZZZZZZ

It must repeat like 10 times a dunegon lol

“NOOO! CONTROL IT!!!”

How about you follow me like a bad omen?

Curo.2483:

“NOOO! CONTROL IT!!!”

CONTROL IT

CONTROL IT!!!!

cue time warp and 4 wars bursting down the “legendary” searing effigy in 8 seconds

“This will put the boom in my Kaboomium”