Guild Wars 2

A compilation of general rules, ive come up with, through both mine and my guildies experience fractaling.

• don’t run an instance if you don’t have enough AR, even if u dodge well, maw will get you.

• Almost no one minds begginers, we do mind deaf people, if you dont know a fight, ask, and follow directions, chances are you will get us wiped if you dont.

• people will get downed regardless of their ability to play, so rez and dont bash.

• dont run a 10+ fractal if you just hit 80, get geared up first…. greens and blues dont count as gear in a lvl 10+ fractal.

• if someone tells you, that you should equip reflects, or stability skills, listen plz.

• if you own the instace dont ragequit, ever, or i’ll hope u burn in hell, slowly mind you.

• dont ragequit, makes you look like an impacient troll.

• some pugs will be better than others.

• ranger pets MUST be stowed at certain places.

• if you kill the targeted chanter, you will get a group kick, probably.

• wisps sometimes take 1, sometimes take 10 tries, deal with it.

• reroll if dredge is 1st fractal, yes. ask for reroll if 3rd, not likely.

• Razer Comms, Dolby Axon, are your fractal VoIP friends, or skype.

• Don’t ever try running fractals if you are in on a schedule, chances are you’ll end up ragequitting.

Carry on adding people!

MAW doesn’t matter. I don’t mind rezzing 2 more times. And you can guardian heal.

Others I agree. LISTEN is the key.

Erebus.3897:

• don’t run an instance if you don’t have enough AR, even if u dodge well, maw will get you.

So you mean back when 30 ar was the norm we were bad and should have been ashamed for running 48? Oh woe is me, its great and all that everyone should have enough ar for maw and stuff like facetanking dredge suit’s agony.

Assume all fractals are speedruns unless otherwise stated. Most players want them done fast.

Erebus.3897:

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• Almost no one minds begginers, we do mind deaf people, if you dont know a fight, ask, and follow directions, chances are you will get us wiped if you dont.

best suggestion ever

• dont ragequit, makes you look like an impacient troll.

rage quit is mostly a legend….
When you have a “deaf” Group that commits 3 huge mistakes at first fractal to the point thakittens clear the Group is bad quitting is the best thing to do.

If you patiently explain why you are leaving you get insulted anyway…

• wisps sometimes take 1, sometimes take 10 tries, deal with it.

if you know where to jump it won t take more than 2….
tip: jumping point are not Always near to paths

• Razer Comms, Dolby Axon, are your fractal VoIP friends, or skype.

eu servers do not agree with you <.<
Language barriers are still strong in europe.

Razeor.6271:

So you mean back when 30 ar was the norm we were bad and should have been ashamed for running 48? Oh woe is me, its great and all that everyone should have enough ar for maw and stuff like facetanking dredge suit’s agony.

how long ago did you quit fractals ?
a lot changed since them

They removed all exploits to get past maw but also buffed most mobs and stuff…

Fotm were much easier when people got less AR
Every patch they ninja buff fractal mobs….

Yesterday i had the leasant experience to fight a VETERAN dredge with something around 500.000-1.000.000 HP or more XD.

What i know is that i was doing 10.000 every few seconds (i didn t see any regen also) and was with 2 warriors….
Took 10 minutes to kill him….was awkward XD.

Nikaido.3457:

Erebus.3897:

A compilation of general rules, ive come up with, through both mine and my guildies experience fractaling.

• don’t run an instance if you don’t have enough AR, even if u dodge well, maw will get you.

My rule is better. I have no req on AR but I will kick you if I see you get hit too often by agony.

Then that is not fair, you should set a requirement on AR, so that you won’t have an excuse to kick anyone just because the game always wants to attack certain characters. You are practically blaming it on luck or RNG or something of that sort.

Erebus.3897:

• don’t run an instance if you don’t have enough AR, even if u dodge well, maw will get you.

I totally disagree with that… I had never enough ar, my first ring was droped at level 30 daily so I had to learn dodgeing very fast
I prefer to have less ar then too much because you unlearn to evade

I totally agree, I have no issue with people with low AR joining my groups. If I notice someone go down very quickly to AR, I might ask, but this is only really so I can be aware of it and be ready to jump on them if they get focused, and on Maw changes. I know if one player has a bit low AR I will run after them at the change throwing as much healing on them as I can, and will have my invulnerabilities ready, so I can rez them if they go down.

if 5 players with low ar get to maw nowaday you can t get past….
Also if you don t have enough AR you should at least tell it….common sense…and good behavior.

Afya.5842:

MAW doesn’t matter. I don’t mind rezzing 2 more times. And you can guardian heal.

Others I agree. LISTEN is the key.

No, they shouldn’t be there. This is just carrying a PUG. I have no issues doing it for a guildie, or even maaaaybe a PUG if they tell us, but most people like this don’t say anything and get carried through fotm. These are the ones killing targets on cliffside (even though there is a much, much better mesmer tactic that we use) and not follwing the group on jellyfish underwater boss.

My rule I would like to add is

• Don’t offer to switch characters to make something easier in a PUG unless you KNOW who started it.

Past experiences show that people get carried away and/or forget and they try logging to their mesmer/thief/guardian and then kick everybody because they started the run.

How does.. “This person has not quite enough AR” equate to “This person has no clue how to play”? I know plenty of players that can do fractals without the optimal AR and not be a burden, hell any player that has done level 40+ knows how to avoid most of the Agony so does it matter if he’s on his Alt? The only point it may be an issue is on the Maw. And as long as he gets somewhere safe to rez at the stage changes it’s not even an issue.

New to fractals and doing a level to high with no AR as they don’t understand how it works. It happens, and they should not really be in a high level team.

And people should be made aware if your a bit low.

Ratty.5176:

How does.. “This person has not quite enough AR” equate to “This person has no clue how to play”? I know plenty of players that can do fractals without the optimal AR and not be a burden, hell any player that has done level 40+ knows how to avoid most of the Agony so does it matter if he’s on his Alt? The only point it may be an issue is on the Maw. And as long as he gets somewhere safe to rez at the stage changes it’s not even an issue.

New to fractals and doing a level to high with no AR as they don’t understand how it works. It happens, and they should not really be in a high level team.

And people should be made aware if your a bit low.

THIS!

at levels 30+ pugging with someone who has not optimal AR is not a problem, i mean when u pug under 30, as i was leveling my mesmer’s frac level id encounter LOTS of people pugging 10+ or 20+ fractals who had NO IDEA what even AR was…

had a mesmer in fracs 18, who was in green an blues, had no build whatsoever, and was a using a green GS in dredge 18… i could almost hear the veteran x200 dredge in bombs laughing at me when i asked the player what armor he had, and demanded that he pinged it.

I dont like to quit my groups, but that time i was in the verge of a nervous breakdown

Erebus.3897:

THIS!

at levels 30+ pugging with someone who has not optimal AR is not a problem, i mean when u pug under 30, as i was leveling my mesmer’s frac level id encounter LOTS of people pugging 10+ or 20+ fractals who had NO IDEA what even AR was…

had a mesmer in fracs 18, who was in green an blues, had no build whatsoever, and was a using a green GS in dredge 18… i could almost hear the veteran x200 dredge in bombs laughing at me when i asked the player what armor he had, and demanded that he pinged it.

I dont like to quit my groups, but that time i was in the verge of a nervous breakdown

I think the best one was a Thief. We had noticed he was acting rather erratically, on the first fractal he kept running into the spider wisp, where I was waiting for the countdown, dragging every spider with him on top of me.

But, he claimed 100% he was level 28 in fractals.

So we get the Dredge. He carries on doing really mad things, pulling random mobs, failing to put down SR at the right time when we ask him to. not knowing what “Doing the panel” was. I mention something about it and he says “Oh I’ve never had this fractal before”.. I scratch my head.. “level 28 in fractals and you have never seen Dredge before”.. “Yeah done fractals lots of times”….. OK well by this point we are on the 3rd fractal.. So I let it slide. We get to the boss and he goes down a lot.

Then we get to the Maw, he goes down instantly to Agony.

I ask him at the end.. “Hey, out of morbid curiostiy, can you link your jewelry” .. A real mix of greens and blues, most not level 80… and 1 rare… Can you guess what it was?

All you can really do is laugh.. But we still managed it. Though it was touch and go at certain bits of the Dredge fractal.

“Don’t sign up for level 10+ fractals if you’ve never done a fractal in your life”

“If you don’t speak English do your homework in advance instead of joining an English speaking party and hoping you can just ‘wing it’’”

If only I’d known these in advance of letting 3 portugeuse speakers sign up for a level 10 fractal “speed run” when it quickly became apparent none of them had every done a fractal in their life…

…that’s 2 hours of my life I won’t be getting back and we didn’t even finish the run

Nikaido.3457:

LordByron.8369:

if 5 players with low ar get to maw nowaday you can t get past….

You never ran a 48 ?

i do a 48 at least daily actually….
And do you know if you cheat, boss reapplies agony since few Patches ago?

colosus 3 rules:
1: don’t attack the target (or his side if mostly aoe guys)
2: don’t change the target
3: drop and charge the hammer in tunnel

Nikaido.3457:

LordByron.8369:

i do a 48 at least daily actually….
And do you know if you cheat, boss reapplies agony since few Patches ago?

I don’t buy that. You couldn’t possibly run 48 and not know about the 99% rez.
He reapplies agony on 99% rezzed people after level 50+, not 40+. If by “cheat” you meant the 99%.

There are other ways too to salvage a situation if a group messed up the 99%. After the wipe the group can take up all

elementalists don t even die if you pull out a full healing combo…
that on a zerker set.
Low HP with helaing combo.
So i don t care of the 99% rez

But i think dev were clear on how they see getting around AGONY

You like it or not they put agony as a wall….

what do you want exactly?

first the 99% you are suggesting is probably an exploit.
Infact was addressed at higher levels….(i don t think many players play with insufficient AR at 48…..if i don t have to adrress the problem i don t care)

second if you don t have enough AR and don t tell it to the party you are the one “misbehaving”.

bye

Nikaido.3457:

There are other ways too to salvage a situation if a group messed up the 99%. After the wipe the group can take up all their instant rez skill and cycle them up on the guy who enters the room first once he gets downed. Two warrior warbanner are enough to get a guy with 25 or 30 AR up when well timed (+ his own heal). So guardian tome + 45 AR aren’t even the only thing that works, they’re just the easiest way out.

Yep it’s very possible on an Engineer to walk in there and survive the Agony on it own, With 40AR+ drop Supply Drop to stop the Maw targeting you for a few seconds, heal as much as you can, you can have 3 or 4 sources of healing. Then when your just about to go down you throw a Elixir U at your feet and it should bounce you back up when you go down.

Stack with the rest of your team and your guaranteed a couple of members will survive it as the Elixir U is an AoE.

I love how Byron is effectively saying he values something arbitrary and completely irrelevant like AR -which can be acquired outside of fractals as well- over player skill, yet accuses us of being bad players and having bad standards for running Guard/Warr/Mes setups.

Oh the irony…

True that!

Sadly tough: * ranger pets MUST be stowed at certain places.

Not possible when u want to attack, 1st attack pet comes out again, and yes sadly its working as intended …

Stairpuzzle on Harpie run: it is a good idea to stow your pet there.

i didn t accuse anyone of being a bad player….
I just say that some professions/builds makes content easy and some players that have access to them instead of seeing the problem just ask to makes thing worse……