Guild Wars 2

No one likes these, at all. You know that colossus part with the “keep one alive” thing? It’s seems like that’s not how Anet intended us to complete it rather they would want us to actually take on all those vets that hit in the 7k range each making nearly impossible. It’s boring, long and forces people to use this method if we want to progress.

Now grawl..where do I get started. Doing it at lv30 seems no less different than doing it at lv20 minus the AR difference. I’m currently on lv 32 and have no interest whatsoever to continue due to the lack of AR( I have 25 but to get 30 I have to infuse a backpiece with 250 globs? No thanks) and the near similar drops in the 20’s. I just came back from failing to do fractal 20. We were on the 3rd stage before maw and that stage was the shaman. We wiped 6 times before we gave up and we couldn’t survive the first wave of lava’s seeing as they hit way too hard. How is this even fair compared to Swamp, Underwater, Asura, Ascalon, Dredge and Norn fractal stages? Shouldn’t every stage be equally as hard? I mean it’s not even the AR that killed us, like really?

When people start fractals and purposely skip colossus or grawl when it shows up you know somethings wrong. Oh, and to add on to that, from what I’ve seen in fractals 70+ it;s the exact same crap with just MORE AR. And the incentive to continue is a chance to get some exotics we can’t even sell on the TP? k.

tl;dr another rage thread, read it.

I really like the colossus and Grawl one. The only one I hate doing is the Dredge because of how extremely hard it is for some players in a pug.

I always re roll if first fractal is:

1. Collusus
2. Grawl
3. Dredge

Kick people if they insist, write ??? why no grawl its ez, or anything as the such as they are personally saying, they have seen everyone in the teams AR and can vouch we are good, which obviously is not true so i dont like people who start here

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Rosebud...was his sled.

I love the Colossus and the Grawl fractals. In fact the only fractal I’m not a huge fan of is the Aquatic fractal, because it is quite boring.

Grawl is pretty easy unless you don’t know how to dodge or have no aoe for eles

Grawl requires dodging and position awareness. Most people that went over 40 can dodge them just fine. You are using AR as a crutch.

Grawl fractal is cake with a guardian or ranger who knows their kitten. And an absolute nightmare if you dont have one.

There’s no better way to deal with the elemental phase than either blocking all the elemental attacks, grouping them up, and nuking them down in ~8 seconds, or immobilizing the shaman for 20 seconds while you deal with the elementals with your new found time.

The only problem I have with the fractals is the Arms of the Collosses. And here is why:

If you wipe on the arms you can forget trying to do it again, you are stuck in a situation you cannot fix. There are then at both sides to many enemies that heal the seal way to fast, making it near impossible to finish. Especially the higher you get and the longer it takes to kill the mobs..

Possible solutions:
a) Make it so the mobs do not repair the seal (making it really easy, to easy prolly)
b) Make it so the situation goes back to how it was as if you were not there, only 2 regular mobs on each side (I prefer this one)

The rest are fun in my opinion. Giant or Collossus or Cliffside as it is called is the only one I will go back to start if it is the first one to come up..

I am truly getting sick of group abandoning at the arms and falling apart cause of being stuck in the situation they cannot fix. The rest is doable and fine in that regard.

to tell the truth
Arms:
at lvl 12+ a single good player can compensate for a bad party…

At 20+ its still doable but real fact is that if people mess a simple strategy like the one we all use, they won t ever be able to accomplish the other legit strategy that requires personal skill and cordination….

Other thing is that players not able to play with Others and don t even bother to read chat/ follow target should not play fractals lvl 11+….

Its isn t required skill to “avoid Killing” something……

Yet i completely agree that arm seals should be nerfed and by a lot.

Dredge on another hand is another issue….i d like to see how many could complet that fractal without spykits.

I think all fractals are easy with pugs except Volcano. 2nd part at higher levels is just stupid how fast they come at you before you can take down the shield, and the boss without communication or good players is hard.

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Rosebud...was his sled.

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Rosebud...was his sled.

Dont speak for all of us dude. The colossus fractal is awesome as it is, I love it.

Dont think ive done the Grawl one though.

iced cooly.5794:

Dont speak for all of us dude. The colossus fractal is awesome as it is, I love it.

Dont think ive done the Grawl one though.

Then you’re probably at most on level 9-10 and you can’t still see how wrongly hard they become on higher levels. Probably it is YOU that can’t speak about this problem.

Grawl is the only tough Fractal. Colossus/Cliffside is easy with even slight coordination on the arms.

Oh, btw lvl 22 with only 10 AR atm. LOL

Teamspeak is a blessing.Pugs is a downside.Try to do it with ur guildies.As of new patch they will be 30 in no-time

i just hate the start where u have to nearly kill the guy just to get his hammer.. this ontop of the rest of the place jus taking too long comparatively to other fractals.

I like the Grawl, Dredge, and Cliffside fractals, but I won’t start with them ever. I always start with Swamp of Water because they are the fastest, and I want at least one of my three fractals to be fast. After that, I’ll do any of the Fractals that come up.

I will admit that I sigh when I encounter Cliffside or Dredge just because they’re long, not because they’re hard.

I actually enjoy the grawl stage and especially the colossus. Swamp is the one that annoys me at the beginning, but every so often I get a group that can get it done. Dredge can be taxing because it’s so long and occasionally a group has no clue what to do to beat the end making it take even longer.

Aerial Melodies.4938:

I actually enjoy the grawl stage and especially the colossus. Swamp is the one that annoys me at the beginning, but every so often I get a group that can get it done. Dredge can be taxing because it’s so long and occasionally a group has no clue what to do to beat the end making it take even longer.

If swamp annoys you at the start then you’re probably not a very high fractal level. The problems with grawl and cliffside start at the 20’s or so.

Colossus isn’t that bad at all, I think grawl is easy but that’s because we always have at least one guardian, Dredge on the other hand, what a snoozefest.

Dredge Ice boss since patch at lvl 30+ is really hard now when pugging, way too much AOE ice, that much in fact you cant always double-roll out of it, if you still got 2 dodge charges left that is.

Also the changes that you can no long pull the boss out of the room where all the mobs spawn just made the dungeon even longer, people just pull the mobs out instead, go figure!

Anyway they truned a fractal I onced liked (especially for loot) into one i cant stand anymore, long and stupid hard if you get ice. They couldnt think of anything original so we just make them dodge more!!

Both are doable with a bit of cordination, not all content have to be toned down for pugs to afk through them.

I’m going to leave this here.

http://imgur.com/BabV18w

If your at lv30 and still struggle with him even with 25/30 AR, you shouldn’t be at that level. Grawl fractal should be the reality check that players should learn to dodge agony not just stack so much AR its irrelevant.

Forestgreen.7981:

I’m going to leave this here.

http://imgur.com/BabV18w

If your at lv30 and still struggle with him even with 25/30 AR, you shouldn’t be at that level. Grawl fractal should be the reality check that players should learn to dodge agony not just stack so much AR its irrelevant.

Seeing as how you have 3 guards, it’s not really surprising. What bothers me is that there are still classes that are pretty much almost mandatory at higher fractals such as the guardian.

I thought all classes can perform all roles almost equally but no, some classes are way better at some role (thru utilities whatnot). Which brings me to the conclusion that holy trinity is still there, it’s just not as apparent or rather hidden beneath the surface.

Yenn.9185:

Forestgreen.7981:

I’m going to leave this here.

http://imgur.com/BabV18w

If your at lv30 and still struggle with him even with 25/30 AR, you shouldn’t be at that level. Grawl fractal should be the reality check that players should learn to dodge agony not just stack so much AR its irrelevant.

Seeing as how you have 3 guards, it’s not really surprising. What bothers me is that there are still classes that are pretty much almost mandatory at higher fractals such as the guardian.

I thought all classes can perform all roles almost equally but no, some classes are way better at some role (thru utilities whatnot). Which brings me to the conclusion that holy trinity is still there, it’s just not as apparent or rather hidden beneath the surface.

At lv30, guardians isn’t needed. At 80 on the other hand, the mobs are lv84, they hit like a truck and will 2-3 shot you. Firestorm does 7k damage on me each fireball that lands, if you were a lighter class it will 2 shot you. Also this was with “Shield of the Avenger” nerf, the shield will die in less than 1 second 80% of the time to either the lava ele or the firestorm the Shaman cast.

Grawl fractal is the only one I’d skip. The last figtht there is so PUG-unfriendly. Some parties just wipe adds in seconds, some insta die the moment adds spawn. It’s too random for my taste.

Colossus is manageable. Dredge is kinda bugged right now.

But I agree that there’s a really big gap in difficulty.

Like in asura\norn\underwater\ascalon\maw fractals there’s literally nothing that can stop you from completing the fractal. On the other hand I had me share of rage-quits in dredge\grawl fractals.

Bloody Zac.8960:

I love the Colossus and the Grawl fractals. In fact the only fractal I’m not a huge fan of is the Aquatic fractal, because it is quite boring.

well that and underwater combat in general feels way too slow paced and low damag. If that bloated jellyfish wasnt such a panzy I’d hate it just for the UW combat aspect. (note to anet I do 2-3X the damage on land as in the water as a warrior, I hate going in the water)

Personaly I dont mind colossus that much and my only gripe about grawl is it feels like it takes forever compaired to others.