Guild Wars 2

I think the rewards for Tier4 fractals are terrible! I’ve completed a lot of T4 fractals recently, and all I get every time is useless matrix things, potions and ascended salvage kits!!!

You’re “lucky” to even get a ring these days! Bring back the old rewards where you almost always got a ring at least, plus a GOOD change to get ascended armor/weapon chests.

With the current loot table, you have more chance to get a precursor than an ascended item from fractals! Ok, an exaggeration to be sure, but you get my point, that the loot is terrible.

The rewards for fractals are better than the old ones before HoT. The gold difference between today and back then is awesome.
Also, the chance of getting an asc box is bigger than before compared to the effort of playing.
Btw. I get asc boxes regularly, yesterday a weapon chest and the same for monday and rings are almost daily loot for me.
You just have a streak of bad rng luck, that happens from time to time.
There is no need to do any changes at all. Keep in mind that there is no other content where you can get ascended stuff so easily.
Besides you can sell matrices for 34s per piece in the trading post if they are useless for you.

Yes we all want the old system back when you had to do t4,t3,t2,kitten get all the rewards mate. /s off

If its so bad go do something else in the game I hear raids drop ascended.

Rentapest.6503:

I think the rewards for Tier4 fractals are terrible! I’ve completed a lot of T4 fractals recently, and all I get every time is useless matrix things, potions and ascended salvage kits!!!

You’re “lucky” to even get a ring these days! Bring back the old rewards where you almost always got a ring at least, plus a GOOD change to get ascended armor/weapon chests.

With the current loot table, you have more chance to get a precursor than an ascended item from fractals! Ok, an exaggeration to be sure, but you get my point, that the loot is terrible.

The loot is great. You obviously aren’t counting the junk (a few gold), the matrices (another few gold), or the encryptions. You appear to be having an unlucky streak and basing your opinion on that, without looking at long term trends.

The drop rate for ascended weapons + armor is far better from fractal T4 dailies than it is in any other part of the game.

I do get where you’re coming from. Lately I’m doing Tier 3’s because they’re slightly easier than T4 and you practically get the same reward. If it’s an easy T4 fractal, I still do it for the extra 15 relics

And here I was thinking I was getting so many ascended boxes that my bank is becoming full.

Famine.7915:

And here I was thinking I was getting so many ascended boxes that my bank is becoming full.

Can i have some? Havent seen a single drop in my entire fractal carreer

I agree there should be more incentive I mean back when dungeons had rewards u could easily make 10-15g each day at least, no joke. Iirc even t4 dailies it’s like what 3-4g at best even with encryptions? Wth happened how did we lose potential for farming gold in legit manner (y is ab farm still goin on – is it still?)

so maybe bit more incentive like don’t force us to do one specific content to farm gold. If we wanna do fractals to farm but not mindnunbingly like farm 40 frac or some thing, let’s go, maek it happen.

So maybe repeat gold rewards? Or extra bonus similar to how run 5 dung paths, get some set gold. For instance I like particular fractals in dailies, rest is just meh to me. Can I repeat those dailies cos I like to do em again, like I get something other than a few crap junk items I sell for couple silvers at least? I’d liek that

So yeh I’m willing to run like chaos or thauma twice daily maybe, but rite now it’s not worth it and there’s no point unless ur runnin around bored in la or somthin. so cmon make me wana do stuff like this.. gold income from dailies fractal is terrible tbh, just a slight step up from regular dailies and I never do em cos yknow

Rewards are better than they’ve ever been… definitely more than some deserve.

Amaimon.7823:

Famine.7915:

And here I was thinking I was getting so many ascended boxes that my bank is becoming full.

Can i have some? Havent seen a single drop in my entire fractal carreer

If you’re mostly doing T3, that’s why you’re not seeing any. There is a small chance from T3 dailies, but T4 has a much higher chance.

nagr.1593:

Iirc even t4 dailies it’s like what 3-4g at best even with encryptions?

I make at least 10g from trash items each day, ignoring the high value of stabilising matrices from rings and the inherent value of ascended armour/weapon drops.

loat.8601:

nagr.1593:

Iirc even t4 dailies it’s like what 3-4g at best even with encryptions?

I make at least 10g from trash items each day, ignoring the high value of stabilising matrices from rings and the inherent value of ascended armour/weapon drops.

Same for me.
3-4g out of T4 daily fracs is definitely wrong.

onevstheworld.2419:

Amaimon.7823:

Famine.7915:

And here I was thinking I was getting so many ascended boxes that my bank is becoming full.

Can i have some? Havent seen a single drop in my entire fractal carreer

If you’re mostly doing T3, that’s why you’re not seeing any. There is a small chance from T3 dailies, but T4 has a much higher chance.

My T4 career isnt as long as the T3 career, but its pretty long.
I found an Occams weapons box :o

You can literally buy a ring everyday if you do T4’s, which are worth only as much as the 1g junk item you get if you dont get another item. I honestly dont see a point in this, when it has been proven the rewards are in fact better, ESPECIALLY in regards to the encryptions.

Luck is a fickle mistress.

Some people have tons of it, others have tons of it (bad).

You will get on average about 10g a day if you do T4 Fractals daily. This is taking into account the junk items from the Encryptions, selling any spare Encryptions, and selling the Stabilizing Matrices if you don’t use them yourself. You also get a fair amount of T5 mats, which you can promote to T6 and sell for more loot.

There’s also the odd chances for Ascended drops as well. Not often, but it does happen. In fact, my main beef with Fractals at the moment is that Ascended amulets don’t drop from Fractals. You can get just about every single piece of Ascended equipment simply by doing Fractals, EXCEPT amulets.

Zaxares.5419:

You will get on average about 10g a day if you do T4 Fractals daily. This is taking into account the junk items from the Encryptions, selling any spare Encryptions, and selling the Stabilizing Matrices if you don’t use them yourself. You also get a fair amount of T5 mats, which you can promote to T6 and sell for more loot.

There’s also the odd chances for Ascended drops as well. Not often, but it does happen. In fact, my main beef with Fractals at the moment is that Ascended amulets don’t drop from Fractals. You can get just about every single piece of Ascended equipment simply by doing Fractals, EXCEPT amulets.

However with how easy they are the farm now (HoT stats included), this isnt too much of an issue. It would water down drop rates tbh. We already have too many asc amulets tied to collections that are not salvagable.

loat.8601:

I make at least 10g from trash items each day, ignoring the high value of stabilising matrices from rings and the inherent value of ascended armour/weapon drops.

I make anywhere from 8-16g a day from my T4 dailies depending on RNG, not factoring Mystic Coins, Stabilizing Matrices, and the value of anything else coming out of the daily boxes. Seriously, loot in Fractals is great right now.

FrostDraco.8306:

However with how easy they are the farm now (HoT stats included), this isnt too much of an issue. It would water down drop rates tbh. We already have too many asc amulets tied to collections that are not salvagable.

If you’re talking about the ones from the HoT/Order collections that can’t be salvaged, I agree. Why aren’t they salvageable?? I don’t need 3 separate copies of Crusader/Marauder stat amulets; they’re just taking up space in my bank.

The main reason why I want Ascended amulets to drop from Fractals is so we can pull the price for Salvaged Excellence back into parity with the other Legendary salvaged essences. I actually get the feeling that something is bugged with the Ascended amulet salvage rate; I have acquired at least 3 or 4 of each of the others (except Ascended Rings), but despite salvaging well over 100 amulets by now, I still have not seen a single Salvaged Excellence. I have the suspicion that it uses the same drop rate as the Salvaged Brilliance item from rings, but where Rings was given the low drop rate due to the fact that they drop very frequently from Fractals, the same is not true of Amulets, resulting in an artificially inflated price. I really wish there was a way I could bring this to a dev’s attention and get them to look into it.

The only thing about fractal loot that I find to be lacking is how you purchase ascended gear. I think the costs are pretty ludicrous for anyone that hasn’t been doing fractals for eons already, or is willing to put some serious farming time in.

And if you farm that much to be able to buy those boxes chances are you got enough boxes to kit out your char anyway.
Havent crafted a single set and got heavy medium and light done + a couple of helm, boot boxes to spare.

bLind.6278:

The only thing about fractal loot that I find to be lacking is how you purchase ascended gear. I think the costs are pretty ludicrous for anyone that hasn’t been doing fractals for eons already, or is willing to put some serious farming time in.

Thats the point. Max crafting skills and make cheap gear, or a pay a premium for being lazy.

The problem with putting ascended gear in fractals is that you need asc to do fractals in the first place. Sure, you could spend ages grinding the T1 fractals in exotic and get your asc this way before proceeding in higher tiers, but that’s more work than maxing your crafts.

Now compare that to the completely free pvp asc gear.

RabbitUp.8294:

The problem with putting ascended gear in fractals is that you need asc to do fractals in the first place. Sure, you could spend ages grinding the T1 fractals in exotic and get your asc this way before proceeding in higher tiers, but that’s more work than maxing your crafts.

Now compare that to the completely free pvp asc gear.

Well go pvp then.

RabbitUp.8294:

The problem with putting ascended gear in fractals is that you need asc to do fractals in the first place. Sure, you could spend ages grinding the T1 fractals in exotic and get your asc this way before proceeding in higher tiers, but that’s more work than maxing your crafts.

Now compare that to the completely free pvp asc gear.

It doesn’t take long to get a few pieces of ascended gear and the agony resistance needed for higher tiers. If you know mechanics and are upfront about the gear differences, then you should I’ve no issue finding groups to do fractals if you do not do them with friends or guild mates.

I was doing daily T4 fractals for 2-3 months and I kept getting streaks where my loot for the day would be 7 gold and a couple fractal potions. I have since stopped because the length of time to complete many fractals doesn’t make it a good investment in time.

If I see molten boss, volcanic, snowblind, or aquatic ruins I’ll do it, but then ones like cliffside, mai trin, and nightmare are such a time investment I can’t be bothered.

Hesacon.8735:

I was doing daily T4 fractals for 2-3 months and I kept getting streaks where my loot for the day would be 7 gold and a couple fractal potions. I have since stopped because the length of time to complete many fractals doesn’t make it a good investment in time.

If I see molten boss, volcanic, snowblind, or aquatic ruins I’ll do it, but then ones like cliffside, mai trin, and nightmare are such a time investment I can’t be bothered.

Yeah, definitely agree. The loot was quite good before the changes, when a lot of this community considered them to be ‘faceroll’ content. Now that many T4 fractals basically require twice the effort and/or time, the rewards hardly seem worthwhile.

It’s especially discouraging when your daily chest gives you a single ectoplasm or single stack potion. Increased challenge should always be followed by a proportional reward buff.

Jahroots.6791:

Hesacon.8735:

I was doing daily T4 fractals for 2-3 months and I kept getting streaks where my loot for the day would be 7 gold and a couple fractal potions. I have since stopped because the length of time to complete many fractals doesn’t make it a good investment in time.

If I see molten boss, volcanic, snowblind, or aquatic ruins I’ll do it, but then ones like cliffside, mai trin, and nightmare are such a time investment I can’t be bothered.

Yeah, definitely agree. The loot was quite good before the changes, when a lot of this community considered them to be ‘faceroll’ content. Now that many T4 fractals basically require twice the effort and/or time, the rewards hardly seem worthwhile.

It’s especially discouraging when your daily chest gives you a single ectoplasm or single stack potion. Increased challenge should always be followed by a proportional reward buff.

The rewards for T4 are much better than for T3. But they still are RNG-based: on any given day, the T1 reward might be better, but in the long run, T4 is much more rewarding, i.e. increased challenge is indeed followed by a proportional reward buff.

And sure, revamped fractals are more difficult, but that’s completely in line with T4 fractals being among the most difficult PvE content in the game. T1 fractals remain easier for those who want faceroll. (Even T2 and most T3 are easy enough still.)

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Jahroots.6791:

Hesacon.8735:

I was doing daily T4 fractals for 2-3 months and I kept getting streaks where my loot for the day would be 7 gold and a couple fractal potions. I have since stopped because the length of time to complete many fractals doesn’t make it a good investment in time.

If I see molten boss, volcanic, snowblind, or aquatic ruins I’ll do it, but then ones like cliffside, mai trin, and nightmare are such a time investment I can’t be bothered.

Yeah, definitely agree. The loot was quite good before the changes, when a lot of this community considered them to be ‘faceroll’ content. Now that many T4 fractals basically require twice the effort and/or time, the rewards hardly seem worthwhile.

It’s especially discouraging when your daily chest gives you a single ectoplasm or single stack potion. Increased challenge should always be followed by a proportional reward buff.

The rewards for T4 are much better than for T3. But they still are RNG-based: on any given day, the T1 reward might be better, but in the long run, T4 is much more rewarding, i.e. increased challenge is indeed followed by a proportional reward buff.

And sure, revamped fractals are more difficult, but that’s completely in line with T4 fractals being among the most difficult PvE content in the game. T1 fractals remain easier for those who want faceroll. (Even T2 and most T3 are easy enough still.)

Sure the rewards can be good for T4 fractals, but the issue is that they didn’t scale with the effort required to finish them. It’s exceedingly frustrating to open the 12 chests from the dailies and get an ecto and ascended salvage kit for what is usually an hour or two.

Figure swamp’s time to complete went up 5 or 10 times going from one of the shortest to one of the longest fractals. Don’t get me wrong, the mechanics are neat, but compared to the original swamp or most other fractals it feels like a poor use of time.

Nightmare Fractal, while including a lot of cool mechanics, takes a long time to actually finish. In most pug groups it’s a good hour.

Mai Trin, before it was backed off on, had a timed mote to complete just the final boss in 25 minutes not counting the first champion. I always skipped this one before for that reason.

All fractals give more or less the same loot from the final chest or daily chests regardless of how long it took to finish, and making old fractals longer and adding new fractals that are also long and take up a space in the rotation change the time vs. reward equation.

Hesacon.8735:

Sure the rewards can be good for T4 fractals, but the issue is that they didn’t scale with the effort required to finish them.

They don’t take more effort; they take more skill to finish in the same amount of time (or sometimes more quickly).

I say this as part of a regular crew that sometimes has to skip T4: when we are in tune, T4 doesn’t take any longer than T3.

Hesacon.8735:

Sure the rewards can be good for T4 fractals, but the issue is that they didn’t scale with the effort required to finish them. It’s exceedingly frustrating to open the 12 chests from the dailies and get an ecto and ascended salvage kit for what is usually an hour or two.

Seriously, if you need one to two hours to complete 3 T4-fractals you should reconsider your build, your profession, your teamp composition as well as your skill level.
Usually I need 10 minutes for 1 fractal when I play with only one friend (he plays mesmer, isn’t extraordinary or dps-focussed) and 3 randoms. Slightly more if you have the longer ones included.

Hesacon.8735:

Figure swamp’s time to complete went up 5 or 10 times going from one of the shortest to one of the longest fractals. Don’t get me wrong, the mechanics are neat, but compared to the original swamp or most other fractals it feels like a poor use of time.

Wisp-phase should not last longer than 2.5 minutes – take appropriate utility skills to get a proper run to the wisp and back to the trees.
Mossman is a breeze otherwise your team does something extremely wrong.
For Bloomhunger, constantly pull him into the green fields with 5 man or it’s obvious that you are losing time. In some of my pug runs those guys were the annyoing ones because they always pull him elsewhere.

Hesacon.8735:

Nightmare Fractal, while including a lot of cool mechanics, takes a long time to actually finish. In most pug groups it’s a good hour.

Shouldn’t take a long time. I guess it’s again a matter of knowledge or skill. First boss – no drama, second neither. Hardest part in pugs is the orb thingy imho, dunno why so many groups I met started to be a clownfiesta at that point.
Last boss is skill based. If you know how to, he gets down fast. I noticed a lot of players to range him although they are in range of social awkwardness. Then you can also stay melee at him. It’s a lot easier to avoid the knockback and hallucinations.

Hesacon.8735:

Mai Trin, before it was backed off on, had a timed mote to complete just the final boss in 25 minutes not counting the first champion. I always skipped this one before for that reason.

A decent pug was killing her within 10-15 minutes – a decent one without much communication!

Hesacon.8735:

All fractals give more or less the same loot from the final chest or daily chests regardless of how long it took to finish, and making old fractals longer and adding new fractals that are also long and take up a space in the rotation change the time vs. reward equation.

Maybe you should not blame the rewards but your attitude.

Happy New Year!

They said ab farm would be nerfed long ago and it never happened.

I guess nightmare only takes 25 minutes total in a decent party, so I stand corrected on that.

I measured the time for today’s T4 dailies. 4 unknown people (pugs) + me:

1. Nightmare – 14 minutes
2. Volcanic – 9 minutes
3. Snowblind – 8.5 minutes

5 minute difference is negligible because Nightmare is Lvl 100 and the most “difficult” one (not rly difficult imho).
If you really think that’s long then I won’t recommend running any other dungeon path because I doubt that you are faster there with actual pugs besides CoF 1 or AC. And don’t forget dungeons are easier!
(Of course organized fractal groups are a lot faster.)

Vinceman.4572:

I measured the time for today’s T4 dailies. 4 unknown people (pugs) + me:

1. Nightmare – 14 minutes
2. Volcanic – 9 minutes
3. Snowblind – 8.5 minutes

5 minute difference is negligible because Nightmare is Lvl 100 and the most “difficult” one (not rly difficult imho).
If you really think that’s long then I won’t recommend running any other dungeon path because I doubt that you are faster there with actual pugs besides CoF 1 or AC. And don’t forget dungeons are easier!
(Of course organized fractal groups are a lot faster.)

I get what you, and some others, are trying to say.

However, your experience does not match ours. Maybe we’re mediocre players or just unlucky. Who knows?

I suppose those of you with above average ability and a generally positive approach barely noticed the changes at all, but the bottom line is that we generally have to do more now to complete the fractal dailies (and this is a fact – whether it is a question of skill, effort or time is negligible) for the same rewards, and this detracts from the fractal experience for some of us.

Hmm, I’m using the standard viper necro for my T4 runs. This is neither the optimum for dps nor a class with a high skill cap.

Of course we all noticed the changes but it was not really hard to adapt. Before the revamp of some fractals + nerf of necromancer T4s were too faceroll and not intended by Anet. Nowadays they are still easy (some remained faceroll) and a daily routine.
And no, I’m not a very high skilled player and neither a speed runner.

I guess many players are not adjusting their utility skills – often seen at above mentioned wisp run during swamp fractal when some peeps are going down.
Besides I barely see buff food and I don’t mean the expensive one. There are really cheap variants that massively help already if all 5 players would use it although these variants are not the best you can use.

Also very important, look at your team composition. You can be the nicest guy, gentle to everyone and invite every class but don’t blame the lack of loot in fractals compared to your effort while running with 3 mesmers, a heal druid and a tanky guard then.
Yes, I’m exaggerating here but I’ve seen similar groups to that and it is obvious that such group composition cannot achieve times like I’ve posted.
If you really need, one “tank” (not to take aggro but to be in the spot to get downed up very fast)/heal guy is enough, you don’t need more. Otherwise it would be overkill and a massive dps loss.

Furthermore it helps if you adjust your traits from time to time. For example as necro I swap to blood magic if there is no healing in my group at all. On the other hand if there is a magi druid in my team, I know I can go totally offensive and play risky, even if I go down the team will be able to get me up due to adequate healings.

Overall that’s the problem of all the open world pve farce. You don’t have to use the minuscule part of your brain to be successful there. Not that I insinuate that to everyone playing T4 fractals and complaining about them but I’m sure the usual attitude is to go in and “play how I want” like we’ve seen during good old dungeon times. In the end, yes, it will work for fractals too but it will definitely cost time here too in contrast to a well-thought reflection and adjustment of the options before one is starting.

The rewards was to good before for the time spent, now they are more in line.

Linken.6345:

The rewards was to good before for the time spent, now they are more in line.

Y’know, I think a lot of you players set the bar too low for yourselves. Nothing is “too good” for me. I didn’t spend my money on a game, expecting to find out that a solid three quarters of its content would be so mediocre and unrewarding that it’s not worth playing through more than once.

One should always feel accomplished and well rewarded at the end of a play session, particularly at the endgame.

Jahroots.6791:

Linken.6345:

The rewards was to good before for the time spent, now they are more in line.

Y’know, I think a lot of you players set the bar too low for yourselves. Nothing is “too good” for me. I didn’t spend my money on a game, expecting to find out that a solid three quarters of its content would be so mediocre and unrewarding that it’s not worth playing through more than once.

One should always feel accomplished and well rewarded at the end of a play session, particularly at the endgame.

But do you really think if a player like I’ve stated above can run 3 T4 fractals in around 35-45 minutes getting 9 gold, 2 mystic coins and an ascended weapon chest, the reward is too low?
What more do you expect ?
The daily 10g (roundabout) is fix after opening all encryptions and selling the junk + a chance of an asc chest or asc materials.
Besides playing the TP, hardcore farming in AB or Cursed Shore I don’t know many other play modes where you can get that amount of gold in equivalent time. So if you really need more rewards you should reconsider your choice of game mode because if you have a certain goal ingame there are definitely alternatives to achieve it.

And although I’m repeating myself you can walk through T4 easily with offensive gear. You don’t need to be super extraordinary in terms of skill. One example I’m always very surprised that 3 ppl can’t hold one side (without social awkwardness instability) and die one after the other in the dredge door room (at the beginning) and I easily survive alone with mob aggro in viper gear with appropriate utility skills. You don’t even need to smash buttons just execute simple strategic decisions (CPC, Epi, Rise, Golem etc.).
Therefore I think T4s are well rewarded if you know how to play your class and try to be a teamplayer. If not, it’s ok that you need longer to get the reward.

As I said before, the guaranteed rewards were perfectly fine for the previous level of T4 difficulty. The RNG based goodies from the daily chests had mostly acceptable drop rates as well.

In their current state, particularly in the most recent fractals, I think at very least the RNG drop rates should have been increased to match the added difficulty.

Again, this is the kind of issue where ‘your mileage may vary’. In theory it shouldn’t be hard to complete the dailies, but is often is. Before, success while pugging T4 was basically guaranteed. Nowadays, full party wipes and rage quitters are significantly more frequent.

Jahroots.6791:

As I said before, the guaranteed rewards were perfectly fine for the previous level of T4 difficulty. The RNG based goodies from the daily chests had mostly acceptable drop rates as well.

In their current state, particularly in the most recent fractals, I think at very least the RNG drop rates should have been increased to match the added difficulty.

Again, this is the kind of issue where ‘your mileage may vary’. In theory it shouldn’t be hard to complete the dailies, but is often is. Before, success while pugging T4 was basically guaranteed. Nowadays, full party wipes and rage quitters are significantly more frequent.

In practice, some people found it hard to complete T4 dailies before the changes. After any change, it takes a while before folks learn how to deal with the new challenges and so of course the number of people having trouble increases — that is what is supposed to happen.

The question isn’t whether people have trouble, it’s whether the rewards are reasonable for the challenge. In my opinion, yes:

• Any team that struggles (and succeeds or nearly succeeds) with T4 is going to do fine at T3.
• The cumulative ‘notable’ rewards for T4 are roughly 40% better than for T3.

i don’t think T4 is that hard, it’s just people who keep randomly (or constantly) dying

to circumvent this i advertise “food+pots” so people know what they are getting into before we start

agre with the first boss becous i get the one us to to daily reco but people who dont have time the dont to them + the reword is pack of level of start of hot =realy realy bad havend seen rings for 2 weeks now only salvaga tool and thad it

tonny.7580:

agre with the first boss becous i get the one us to to daily reco but people who dont have time the dont to them + the reword is pack of level of start of hot =realy realy bad havend seen rings for 2 weeks now only salvaga tool and thad it

No offense, but please, can you do me a favour and edit your post because it is impossible to read and to understand.
Thank you in advance!

Vinceman.4572:

tonny.7580:

agre with the first boss becous i get the one us to to daily reco but people who dont have time the dont to them + the reword is pack of level of start of hot =realy realy bad havend seen rings for 2 weeks now only salvaga tool and thad it

No offense, but please, can you do me a favour and edit your post because it is impossible to read and to understand.
Thank you in advance!

well sorry but i cant to better gramer natze i am dylexic soo deal with it

tonny.7580:

Vinceman.4572:

tonny.7580:

agre with the first boss becous i get the one us to to daily reco but people who dont have time the dont to them + the reword is pack of level of start of hot =realy realy bad havend seen rings for 2 weeks now only salvaga tool and thad it

No offense, but please, can you do me a favour and edit your post because it is impossible to read and to understand.
Thank you in advance!

well sorry but i cant to better gramer natze i am dylexic soo deal with it

That doesnt make them a grammar kitten moron. You are the one with the issue here, not them.

in my opinion the rewards are bad, but the content is still too easy so they need to be bad.
there should be challenge mode to the challenge mode which involves actually hard content and a good lot.
disclaimer: good loot doesnt mean to me current raid loot a.k.a 60silver exotic with some blues and greens.

Sublimatio.6981:

in my opinion the rewards are bad, but the content is still too easy so they need to be bad.

If Fractals were like this when they first emerged, everyone would have gone mental saying that it is too difficult; hint: Level 100 CM, Social Awkwardness, Last Laugh, etc.
The content is “easy” for those who learned the tactics, those that are lucky to have a good party and good gear.
My opinion is that loot can be improved.

fractal loot is great!

• You get ~100g every time you open a stack of fractal encryptions
• You get 1-2 Ascended Armor Chests per Week
• You get a lot of Stabilizing Matrices which is good extra gold
• You get Elonian Leather, Bolts of Damask, Deldrimor Ignots as possible drops
• You get a good amount of Karma
• You get Fractal Relics + Pristine Fractal relics that you can exchange for a many different cool things
• You get unique Skins that can only be found in fractals

I really dont think fractal loot is lacking

And Fractal 100 CM gives a lot of good extra rewards for people who take the Challenge

Orangensaft.7139:

fractal loot is great!

• You get ~100g every time you open a stack of fractal encryptions
• You get 1-2 Ascended Armor Chests per Week
• You get a lot of Stabilizing Matrices which is good extra gold
• You get Elonian Leather, Bolts of Damask, Deldrimor Ignots as possible drops
• You get a good amount of Karma
• You get Fractal Relics + Pristine Fractal relics that you can exchange for a many different cool things
• You get unique Skins that can only be found in fractals

I really dont think fractal loot is lacking

And Fractal 100 CM gives a lot of good extra rewards for people who take the Challenge

-Completing dailies is 4×3+3=15 boxes a day (including daily recommanded). That is 105 boxes a week.
-You DONT get ascended 1-2 times a week. You just have (higher) chance of getting an ascended box in t4. Last time i got one is weeks ago, if not month(s).
-You get 15’ish stabilized matrixes a day average. A bit more if you salvage rings. Wich have fairly high chance of dropping. But not guarenteed.
-Deldrimor ingot, elonian leather and damask are possible drops yes. But kinda rare. I would not wait for them.
-Karma is pretty much useless.
-You can buy some nice stuff with fractal relics, But you cant really turn it into gold. I mean i got even over 7k of them. (Yes i do have the infinite omni potion as well).
-Fractal weapon skins are buyable and golden ones are craftable. And there for lost their value imo. So meh..

My daily gain from fractals is about 10g and 15 stabilized matrixes. Wich i keep for attributed infusions. I think that this is fine in general. But on other side, you dont get rewarded for doing other or more fractals a day. Yes you still get the encrypted boxes and such. But outside dailies, these are so minor. I dont consider it is worth doing it. I think that many people (including myself) would appreciate if the general fractal drop would improve. Outside of dailies. This way more people would play/do/enjoy more fractals more often.

Edit: I just renembered that i (and many others) used to make 35/50g a day, from doing multiple dungeons back in the days. Before it got nerfed. So.. yeah.. let that sink in for a moment.