Guild Wars 2

Hmmmm… “Maybe if they never drop the thing the want they’ll keep playing”?

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

Scenario:

No one runs fractals anymore because the rewards are garbage.

Response (bait and switch):

Inform player base that you have increased rewards.
Increase rewards for one day.
Lower rewards below previous level afterwards.
Profit from the players’ delusions that rewards have increased.

What profit?

Renewed interest in the game/content. Not sure how that was hard to figure out. Players who actually think the game is worth playing/rewarding, will be more likely to invest in the game (play it and possibly make gem purchases).

Sure, because they’re not totally going to leave after a few days or so when they see the droprates are still terrible, as many of my old guildmates did.
It’s all a conspiracy for keeping us interested in the game! Bait and switch! Broken promises! Anet evil! It can’t be rng couple with terribly low droprates, it must be the aliens taking control of them!
/sigh

Aside from your drama queen skit there…what part of what was said is not actually true? Was there not a promise of improved drop rates? Is the common experience not the actual opposite of that promise? Of course there are terribly low drop rates and terrible rng…that is exactly what everyone and myself has been saying. Of course its a conspiracy to keep people interested…isn’t that the entire profit model of this and every game of this type with an in game store? Your entire response is nothing but drama, hyperbole, and a repeat of common sense. Not even sure why you responded when you haven’t actually disagreed with anything…

deSade is our king

ODB.6891:

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

Scenario:

No one runs fractals anymore because the rewards are garbage.

Response (bait and switch):

Inform player base that you have increased rewards.
Increase rewards for one day.
Lower rewards below previous level afterwards.
Profit from the players’ delusions that rewards have increased.

What profit?

Renewed interest in the game/content. Not sure how that was hard to figure out. Players who actually think the game is worth playing/rewarding, will be more likely to invest in the game (play it and possibly make gem purchases).

Sure, because they’re not totally going to leave after a few days or so when they see the droprates are still terrible, as many of my old guildmates did.
It’s all a conspiracy for keeping us interested in the game! Bait and switch! Broken promises! Anet evil! It can’t be rng couple with terribly low droprates, it must be the aliens taking control of them!
/sigh

Aside from your drama queen skit there…what part of what was said is not actually true? Was there not a promise of improved drop rates? Is the common experience not the actual opposite of that promise? Of course there are terribly low drop rates and terrible rng…that is exactly what everyone and myself has been saying. Of course its a conspiracy to keep people interested…isn’t that the entire profit model of this and every game of this type with an in game store? Your entire response is nothing but drama, hyperbole, and a repeat of common sense. Not even sure why you responded when you haven’t actually disagreed with anything…

Not sure why you are even commenting.

We had our first fractal armor/wepon drop since the patch on saturday among our regular fractal crowd. Granted we don’t run fractals daily anymore as we used to but still interesting. (was a healer armor box for shoulders).

Spoj The Second.7680:

ODB.6891:

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

deSade.9437:

ODB.6891:

Scenario:

No one runs fractals anymore because the rewards are garbage.

Response (bait and switch):

Inform player base that you have increased rewards.
Increase rewards for one day.
Lower rewards below previous level afterwards.
Profit from the players’ delusions that rewards have increased.

What profit?

Renewed interest in the game/content. Not sure how that was hard to figure out. Players who actually think the game is worth playing/rewarding, will be more likely to invest in the game (play it and possibly make gem purchases).

Sure, because they’re not totally going to leave after a few days or so when they see the droprates are still terrible, as many of my old guildmates did.
It’s all a conspiracy for keeping us interested in the game! Bait and switch! Broken promises! Anet evil! It can’t be rng couple with terribly low droprates, it must be the aliens taking control of them!
/sigh

Aside from your drama queen skit there…what part of what was said is not actually true? Was there not a promise of improved drop rates? Is the common experience not the actual opposite of that promise? Of course there are terribly low drop rates and terrible rng…that is exactly what everyone and myself has been saying. Of course its a conspiracy to keep people interested…isn’t that the entire profit model of this and every game of this type with an in game store? Your entire response is nothing but drama, hyperbole, and a repeat of common sense. Not even sure why you responded when you haven’t actually disagreed with anything…

Not sure why you are even commenting.

Because of the completely unnecessary and somewhat childish sarcasm of this entire string of replies…including this one…as there is no pertinent content in any of the replies…including my own at this point.

You seemed to take offense to desades comment so i replied in the same manner as you replied to him. Theres no sarcasm. If anything your comment is really childish and unnecessary which is why i decided to reply to highlight that.

Spoj The Second.7680:

You seemed to take offense to desades comment so i replied in the same manner as you replied to him. Theres no sarcasm. If anything your comment is really childish and unnecessary which is why i decided to reply to highlight that.

And your need to respond to that is any less childish and unnecessary….because your quip had any additional value? I guess you are here to fly to your buddy’s defense huh? That’s some grade school childishness there.

Wow you are too easy. I dont have a problem with being childish.

As De Sade ‘s not so secret admirer I approve of Spoj’s responses.

Yesterday I did 4 tiers of fractals. I didn’t even get a single ring. How’s that for a kick in the cats?

Before the patch:
1 ascended weapon chest

After the patch:
2 ascended armor chests (malicious gloves + raider’s shoulders)
1 ascended weapon chest

Other chests (not from fractals):
2 weapon chests
1 amor chest (Cleric, any piece)

I did a lot more fractals before the patch than after. I’m doing various levels, from 9 to 49, fractal frequentel last tier finished.

yayuuu.9420:

Before the patch:
1 ascended weapon chest

After the patch:
2 ascended armor chests (malicious gloves + raider’s shoulders)
1 ascended weapon chest

Other chests (not from fractals):
2 weapon chests
1 amor chest (Cleric, any piece)

I did a lot more fractals before the patch than after. I’m doing various levels, from 9 to 49, fractal frequentel last tier finished.

So you are to blame that we all got zip because your luck makes up globally for our bad luck and all in all the drop chance did increase?
throws pink quaggan plushies after yayuuu

I have to admit, that if it really is a pure RnG (i doubt it is) there is a potential chance to NEVER EVER get anything more than these crystals… Just think about that.
Everything i can say is that i hear a lot people complain in the forums AND ingame about how bad the reward has become since the patch. So what really bothers me is the patchnotes claiming the chances for better reward has been increased – depending on what lvl you play. Well, and i played a lot of lvl 50 since then but only got two UNinfused rings. That NEVER happened to me before. But, uh, yes, i almost forgot, it’s RnG.
At least a dev could show up and state what really has been done to the reward chest.
I have a feeling like they DEcreased the chances especially for the fractal weapons, because of the upcoming feature patch, that allows to unlock every skin in the game – and they don’t want too many plp to unlock the fractal weapons so fast anymore.

Oh boi. I lose track of a thread for a bit and look at what happens. I’m wondering if he’s still fuming over his hurt feelings. /giggles like a 8yold
Before I go back to play in the kindergarten with spoj, I wanted to throw more stuffs in the cauldron:
- 8 runs of 49, a cleric uninfused ring (is the game sending me a message?)
- 1 run of 38, nothing.
Surely amazing droprates. So that means basically an uninterrupted week of a whole lot of nada.

The droprates are so terrible we’re basically giving up on 49 runs and doing 38 from now on. You get 18k karma and more or less the same amount of nothingness compared to 49. Then of course you can throw in a 50 just for the “challenge”. Can you even consider taking more time to kill stuff “challenging”? Owell. Anyway…
Kaarma. Kaaaaarma and obsi shards.

How comes i do so many fractal 49-50 and all i get are uninfused rings?

They shouldn t even be in the loot table….
Did they break something?

Low levels drop way better…..and this is a deja vue situation…(do you remember when fotm 10 gave better loots than 48)…

LordByron.8369:

How comes i do so many fractal 49-50 and all i get are uninfused rings?

They shouldn t even be in the loot table….
Did they break something?

Low levels drop way better…..and this is a deja vue situation…(do you remember when fotm 10 gave better loots than 48)…

Weve been saying this the whole time. And it was brought up a ton in the fractal cdi. So hopefully they will fix the rewards eventually. Although it will probably be some time before we see any real improvement.

Ok i Always drop some uninfused rings…

But after the last “fix” i see ONLY uninfused rings …

Its like their changes in drop rates works exactly in the opposite way they should.

People drop less and less in higher the most they increase droprates…while i hear frequent low level drops recently.

I’ve had mostly infused rings in the last couple weeks. Also as mentioned before raiders boots and today zojja weapon chest. Rewards seem better for me at least.

Got a fractal spear. 38
/cries and screams histerically

Got an Occam Weapon chest. Level 40. Thank you Anet!
/sarcasm

38 and 48, nothing.
Ha. Ha ha. Ha.

38 – defenders chest of shoulders.

49 – uninfused ring

Seems about right.

49, malicious chest of boots
38, infused ring
Ugh. At least armor boxes are dropping sometimes. If only they weren’t completely useless most of the time…
At least gimme a defender one for WuWuWu!

deSade.9437:

49, malicious chest of boots
38, infused ring
Ugh. At least armor boxes are dropping sometimes. If only they weren’t completely useless most of the time…
At least gimme a defender one for WuWuWu!

Tbh at this point I’d kill for any armor chest. #NoDragoniteForTheFashionable

Got a malicious chest chest on a 38. Can put it to use on a wvw character I suppose.

Ikr. I think i’ll get rabid boots for my necro… and yeah, I’D KILL to get some dragonite from fractals!!!!

I mentioned dragonite in fractals in the CDI and Chris said twice he liked the idea and he suggested it to the rewards team. Still having (probably misplaced) hope that this will make it through.

I must say at reward lvl33 I get a lot of rares (lvl10: 3 rares; lvl 20: 4 rares and exotic armor piece), Mf: 78%.
But not a lot of ascended stuff.. Got 2 infused rings and tons of uninfused. Never an ascended weapon or fractalweapon. I’m now at 178 fractals doing all tiers..

Ok i m doing fractal 49or50 daily and getting 90% of uninfused rings… (10% infused no other stuff)
I start to suspect rng has nothing to do with it….

DId they break the loot table?
Its the DR?

You can t tell me its normal after 10-20 run to get only uninfused rings…that should not even be in the droplist
At least prepatch they were a rare drop.

face it, the majority of fractal 50 drops are either nothing or uninfused condition rings (Essentially nothing, buy hey, 5s is… something… /cry)

The last update has also lowered droprates for asc/skins and increased chances for nothing as far as I can tell.

/cry

The more i read chances increased in Patches, the more i hear and experience lesser chances….

They should really rewrite from scraps the chest since possibly is working opposite as intended (easier drops at lower levels).

Or maybe its DR that should not exist in an activity with a DAILY chest.

Over the last two weeks-ish:

29 – Fractal GS, Malicious Boots Chest, Angchu’s Weapon Chest
38 – Zilch
49 – Nothing
50 – Nichts

Dat RNG.

About to do level 29 and then 38 – will edit with results when finished.

Edit: Non-infused ring from 38 – Couldn’t do 29 due to time constraints

I finally got my first considerable reward since the patch: Fractal Spear Gun.
Unfortunately i already have four of them.

/Supernova Rage

Edit: lvl50

Finally got my first ascended armor chest (from a lvl 15)… Raider’s Shoulders

Wow! Luckyy.

I did a few lvl 50 runs recently after these "changes"and only got uninfused rings. Then i decided ill stop doing fractals until they change somethign about it again. I’m hoping for the day when these rewards are not rng based. I’m not much of a gambler, why? becuase you always lose more than win…

My fractal 50 got a condi ring today and nothing the 3 days before that, lol I’m actually making a log right now, the drop rates really do seem reduced.

Absolutely nothing from 50. kittening waste of time.

After the March 19, 2014 Update :

I did several 49/50 level fractals (circa 4/week) an some other low levels (2/week).
I drop ascended rings more often (also more infused one) but never seen a single ascended weapon/armor chest. Not a single one.
And 1 fractal weapon.

Before patch I dropped much more ascended gear and less rings.

I do not know if I am just unlucky atm, but if this is an issue well… I’d like to my voice to be heard.

Good day, see you in game!

I m keeping track of party drops.

The droprate seems really extremely lower at 49-50 since patch…
Out of 200 runs i tracked (5 players doing a fractal count as_5 runs if you check their drops)

1 ascended armor gloves
0 frctal skins
lot of uninfused rings
few infused rings

it’s bull kitten……………………

2 38, 2 ring drops. 1 apothecary and 1 rabid+apothecary
/sob

I did another 50 and got nothing, 2 other members got nothing, the other 2 got uninfused condi rings, yay right?

How about increasing your droprate by a bit after each daily-chest without ascended item (not counting rings), maybe depending on the fractal level you´re doing, something along the lines fractal level * 0,2% with reset after an ascended non-ring drop?
It isn´t much of an increase, small enough so the economy won´t change much, but at least a run without loot doesn´t feel like completely wasted time anymore.

Acaro.4067:

How about increasing your droprate by a bit after each daily-chest without ascended item (not counting rings), maybe depending on the fractal level you´re doing, something along the lines fractal level * 0,2% with reset after an ascended non-ring drop?
It isn´t much of an increase, small enough so the economy won´t change much, but at least a run without loot doesn´t feel like completely wasted time anymore.

It wouldn’t harm the economy even if it were higher, as no reward from Fractals can be sold through any source.

Hey guys, plz don’t focus on only ascended armor chests, ascended weapon chests or fractal weapon skins. Do you guys satisfy with gold reward after clearing form? I couldn’t remember how much gold i get after lvl 49 because doing 49 doesn’t give me enough rewards than i put effort on it. lvl 38 gives me 1 gold and 30 silvers but it’s the same reward as other easy dungeons out there. Does this make even sense? Anet valued dungeon rewards based on its difficulty and time but how comes fotm gold reward is so small?

GUYS I got a defenders chest in my 50 for today, Now I can be the Guardian-Tank I always wanted to be!

P.S. The last chest that I received before that was 18 days ago, the new rate is terrible, as before the update I was getting a chest every 4-6 fractal 50’s

try lower levels…
Chests drops like flies….

got 2 in the weekend obviously the same old nothing at 49-50…

As Always fractal are broken…its from release there are the same issues…just they got worse and devs denied it despite we had a huge statistical evidence (in the past was about rares).

38, ettin band. And it’s UNINFUSEDDDDDDDDDDDDD ohhhhhmahgawd I’m so happy.
/faceprinter
Someone hand me a cute kitten or something before my blood pressure goes through the roof and I get murderous.
Oh, also a napkin. I have magenta ink all over the face.
…
This… this is ink, right?

Dunno i did 4 runs in the lower ranks and in each i saw 1-2 chests or skins dropped.

20 runs in 49-50 and i saw 1 maybe?

*in Whole party