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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

Heya there guys, Welcome to my Ranger Roaming thread, where I will post all of the videos I take of me roaming with a ranger.

The first video was fairly bad and I was playing terribly as I had just dusted off my ranger and really couldn’t remember too much, but I still had fun!

The second video is a lot better, I’m playing better and the fights are better, I hope you guys enjoy!~

The Build
Updated

The Videos

  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBkdHFQ8Mdc
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPW0TCd3K0c

I had a tonn of fun while recording these, longbow ranger is defiantly my favourite for WvW right now (well, until some condition class jumps my kitten and I die =p (Actually, that happens quite a bit, haha))

I’ll be happy to answer any questions about the video or build and would appreciate any feedback too!

Also, feel free to check out my Guardian Roaming Videos (The Third is the best one~) if you like

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Yep I’m running a similar build, except I use Nature’s Protection, which can be a real life saver (2000 armor+protection = 3000 armor). I also went 30 into Skirmishing for the passive bonuses.

I also don’t use Red Moa nor Quickening Zephyr, but that might just be laziness. I use Polar Bear (for Protect Me and AoE chill), Wolf(for AoE fear/damage/CC) and Signet of Renewal, which can also be a life saver and to prevent long duration conditions from keeping me stuck in combat mode.

As for Sigils, I use Air instead of Force. I wonder which does more damage in the long run, but I think Air does more burst damage and it’s on a 3s cooldown, so it can’t be much worse than Force. Air also scales with power now. Does anyone know the math?

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Posted by: Loyo.8526

Loyo.8526

This build is tempting, but then I remember all the condi spamming nade engies I have to fight and then I sadface

I probably will stick to 6/0/2/6/0. Maybe I will actually use my LB tho.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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I like the way your’re standing there, casting some misplaced Barrage when someone is knocking at your kitten . And then you interrupt it right before final cast, so the effect fades out after 1 second and you just lose health.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

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This looks fine for running at the back of a group and taking pot shots at people but you are going to be wrecked by conditions or just having someone focus you. I can’t imagine this works well for 1v1 or even just roaming with a smaller group.

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

Well it doesn’t do too badly for a 1v1 if you can get the jump on someone at range, conditions are a problem =p a smaller group is alright if you can hang back and not get focused. Really though its more of a build for a bit of fun, nothing too serious.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

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It feels like being a long range thief. You don’t escape as easy, but you don’t have to get into melee range either. You’re pretty safe, if you keep max range.

Don’t hesitate to Swoop away if someone comes after you. Just flee. If they stop chasing, turn back too. The worst that could happen is that you kept each other out of the battle for a bit. You may have to pop all your emergency measures while fleeing, but you’ll rarely die: Point Blank Shot(knockback), Hunter’s Shot(stealth), Protect Me(invulnerability), 2xdodge, Rampage as One(stability+swiftness), Swoop(leap), Counterattack(block), Signet of Renewal(condition removal), Nature’s Protection(protection on being hit), Polar Bear F2 (AoE Chill), Wolf F2 (AoE Fear), Heal as One.

But there is no safety as safe as keeping your 1500+ range distance. Be careful with Barrage, because it forces you to stand closer to the battle and it will root you in place for a few seconds.

There are more versatile classes for zerg combat, but it’s fun and you certainly aren’t worthless if you can keep yourself alive. You’ll feel safe out-ranging everyone, but you should always be on toes because it could all be over within seconds.

Read the Wind + Eagle Eye is the core of the build. If you don’t use these, it’s not the same type of build by a long shot.

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Posted by: awge.3852

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Its a big risk but the reward is definitely there, I just don’t agree with the lack of condition removal, which is why bear bow exists, then again it must be fun to play with a death laser for a bow.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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love the vid, i would however advise to optimize your build so it becomes even more “yolo”.

The changes i done and why;
First i added more damage by removing some of the points in NM and moving them into Skrimish and Wilderness.
By changing Pet’s prowess into Primal Reflexes, you would get “more” survivability, as every crit on you would give you vigor, and that gives you more dodges, and dodges gives protection at end of roll thanks to WS master minor trait.

I also changed your sigils, runes and food. By using Rune of the Pack, you gain more precision and power, while also getting some “unintention party boosts” thanks to the rune bonus #4. Which is really nice (except that you got to take damage for it to proc, oh well, that part is the only flaw).
By raising power, while retaining your precision, you get more out of your crits.
By using a different type of food, you get even more damage.
The sigils i changed to grant you the strongest possible bonuses for the purpose of the weapons. Air+fire with RTW turns the LB into a railgun able to do consistent 6k AA attacks every 3-5 seconds. By using Air (has higher max crit damage then fire, since GS is most effective against single targets, it is better to hit hard against one, then medium-hard against some.
By using Sigil of Intelligence, you are assured to get 100% out of your combos. Allowing for a devastating swoop-hilt bash-maul combo that will have 100% crit chance. THAT is important. With all 3 critting, it would not be unlikely for you to hit 4-6k on all of the attacks for a total rotation dealing up to 18k damage or more.

here’s my changes:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRnEqQBLWyC2CCXLGoPoWfABwY37H4+vfwJjqKRA-TFCFwACeAAIV+hS9HEHCgM6Cqt/AgrAwVlgECY0EA-w

EDIT:
Another solid rune choice is Rune of Exuberance. The bonuses it grants you is very strong. Even more so if you someday decide to run 60260 instead of 64220

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

interesting changes, I will have to give it a go~

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Dear lord, that resolution. It burns.

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

It burns? burns how? the 720p should be entirely watchable~

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

It only gives me the option of 240. Must be some regional thing?

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

shadowpass.4236

I didn’t feel like making a new thread about it, so ill ask here, moment of clarity gives the 150% bonus on an interrupt only? or when u use a stun/daze skill? does it matter if it hits anything or not?

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

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You will get the bonus damage for one attack after interrupting someone, and you also gain 100% duration to dazes/stuns. I haven’t exactly used it before but that’s how I assume it works.

That’s weird fluff, its HD 720p from where I uploaded, anyone else having similar issues?

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

Alrighty guys, I have a second video up!

I believe it is much better then the first, let me know what you think, and enjoy!

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Posted by: Chewy.9263

Chewy.9263

Going even further with the changes Prysin suggested, build a bit more toughness if your plan to roam on your ranger. You die if someone breathes on you. A burst heal may suit your playstyle better. While you do get the jump on most people you show us, that may not always be the case.

The fights you have shown in the vids look to me to be mostly one sided where some others jump into the fight near the end (granted you are on a T1 server and solo fights are hard to find). Instead of cutting your video up, why not run a fast-forward between fights when you’re out for a routine run?

To maintain crit damage, you could swap trinkets for Valkyrie’s or Cavalier’s. While this hurts your crit chance in a way, I believe your survivability will increase tremendously. Currently, with the full zerk build Prysin proposed, that’s a 65% crit chance before fury. Add fury and your’re at 85% making crits happen almost all the time.

Also, condi’s are your most feared enemy as a ranger.

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

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Yeah, I have considered more toughness etc, but its just not for me, I quite enjoy being so glassy, haha. I will be sure to try out heal as one next time and see how that works out.

I don’t exactly cut my video up, there just wasn’t anything recorded between the fights. While I have fraps running, I tend to loose 10-15 fps and it kinds lags me up, not to mention my sessions can last 5-6 hours on occasion when I get into it, I don’t have the HDD space to store it. (also finding each of the short fights within a 5 hour video is too much of a pain) I just toggle fraps on before I get into a fight and toggle it off after the fight has ended, then fade the video in/out where I feel appropriate.

Hmm, Mostly one sided to which side? they were pretty even-ish for the most part (that 1v2 with the ele/thief, my bear would have pro-ressed me and I would have won that fight even without those thieves ressing me =p) but yeah, finding 1v1-3ish is a bit hard when everybody blobs around and everybody interferes, heh.

Yep condies make me cry, I don’t see that changing anytime soon, hell I actually win some of them (That thief with the grenth mask, and also that thief with the sunglasses were both condi ^^) so yeah.

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Posted by: AsteriskCGY.5931

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Yep I’m running a similar build, except I use Nature’s Protection, which can be a real life saver (2000 armor+protection = 3000 armor). I also went 30 into Skirmishing for the passive bonuses.

I also don’t use Red Moa nor Quickening Zephyr, but that might just be laziness. I use Polar Bear (for Protect Me and AoE chill), Wolf(for AoE fear/damage/CC) and Signet of Renewal, which can also be a life saver and to prevent long duration conditions from keeping me stuck in combat mode.

As for Sigils, I use Air instead of Force. I wonder which does more damage in the long run, but I think Air does more burst damage and it’s on a 3s cooldown, so it can’t be much worse than Force. Air also scales with power now. Does anyone know the math?

Force scales, Air doesn’t. If you’re getting buffs, Force, otherwise at base they’re about the same.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Alrighty guys, I have a second video up!

I believe it is much better then the first, let me know what you think, and enjoy!

Quickening Zephyr is looking really useful. I’ll give it a try and get rid of Signet of Renewal.
I consider Signet of Renewal and Heal as One almost key to my build though, but Quickening Zephyr might be too important.

I’m running 30/30/0/10 at the moment, but I feel Moment of Clarity is worthless (but the passive stat bonus is ok), so I might change to your new build.

Other traits I’m reconsidering are:
Strength of Spirit (Nature Magic 10) adds 7% of vitality to power
Commanding Voice (Beastmastery 10) + Red Moa = almost permanent Fury

The Red Moa might be more useful anyway, even untraited.

By the way, what’s up with your inventory at 2:55?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPW0TCd3K0c&t=2m55s

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

RoyalPredator.9163

One does not simply…
… record videos of pwning noobs.

Try again when you fight at Tier#1-2 and not low-end pugs who should go EOTM instead

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Posted by: Chewy.9263

Chewy.9263

One does not simply…
… record videos of pwning noobs.

Try again when you fight at Tier#2 and not low-end pugs who should go EOTM instead

Fixed it for you.

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Posted by: borya.2964

borya.2964

Attractive title, disappointing content.

It’s neither solo roaming nor small scale roaming. You kill ennemies beside another random mates, you’re never focused. Actually, it’s not even fights. I don’t get the point.

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

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^ I have to agree, there’s no roaming involved in the video, its all zerg v zerg, not even coordinated, with u just shooting from the side

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

If you want a bow, change the game

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Attractive title, disappointing content.

It’s neither solo roaming nor small scale roaming. You kill ennemies beside another random mates, you’re never focused. Actually, it’s not even fights. I don’t get the point.

^ I have to agree, there’s no roaming involved in the video, its all zerg v zerg, not even coordinated, with u just shooting from the side

Well to be honest, with how glassy he is, that’s they play style he is built for. ….I know I know, there are hundreds of you out there that are also as glassy and win most of their 1v1s ……for the rest of us smucks, that build just won’t hold up in a true 1v1, especially if the opponent is built for 1v1

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

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True Chewy… T1s has NO RANGERS AT ALL

I’m glassy myself, otherwise I couldn’t even do else than leeching on my zerg…
But I also have survivality and vitality/toughness, because Hybrid builds are always the best IMO. (Yes, meta poves me wrong here ^^)

Soo… Yap…
As mentioned timely; My TANK warrior does nearly twice the damage.
And as everyone can see, the Lore’s archers ARE warriors. Whaaaaaay???

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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True Chewy… T1s has NO RANGERS AT ALL

I’m glassy myself, otherwise I couldn’t even do else than leeching on my zerg…
But I also have survivality and vitality/toughness, because Hybrid builds are always the best IMO. (Yes, meta poves me wrong here ^^)

Soo… Yap…
As mentioned timely; My TANK warrior does nearly twice the damage.
And as everyone can see, the Lore’s archers ARE warriors. Whaaaaaay???

the two of you are blatantly NA players…. And even then, you are dead wrong.

Was more rangers on JQ then all of SoS and BG together, i know this, because i spent quite a time to kill them.

Go to EU and there is more rangers spread out on two borderlands then all of T1 NA together.

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Posted by: Natsu Dragneel.1625

Natsu Dragneel.1625

Hmm, I really don’t see too many other rangers on SoS and Jq while I play, a few every now and then but its mostly thieves and warriors ^^

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

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I’m on EU\Piken Square
Rarely see a ranger, and that one runs in fear or just suicide.

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Hmm, I really don’t see too many other rangers on SoS and Jq while I play, a few every now and then but its mostly thieves and warriors ^^

You haven’t seen the JQ KA ranger squad during late NA->OCX? Destroying BG/TC all day long =). We even fight off small zergs as mostly rangers.

Keep an eye out for Crusader Ferrah, Balteen, Boaky, Laech, Finx and more! Sometimes its 10 rangers =p.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Hmm, I really don’t see too many other rangers on SoS and Jq while I play, a few every now and then but its mostly thieves and warriors ^^

You haven’t seen the JQ KA ranger squad during late NA->OCX? Destroying BG/TC all day long =). We even fight off small zergs as mostly rangers.

Keep an eye out for Crusader Ferrah, Balteen, Boaky, Laech, Finx and more! Sometimes its 10 rangers =p.

Nice. Good for you guys. I am on SoS. Haven’t seen you guys yet.

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

shadowpass.4236

make a vid of the ranger squad in action. :]

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Posted by: metachu.2376

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No video of yet. We don’t want rangers to be nerfed.

We have a video of us fighting off 20 SoS during OCX time last matchup with just rangers. We’ve also destroyed the enemy blob pin until they were full dead from resing.

Tip. The more zerk rangers you have the better it gets =P. Throw in a special something else too and it becomes magical.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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I am really surprised I haven’t seen or heard of a Ranger gank squad yet. You’re right, it might cause an uproar to nerf Rangers.

A 5 man squad zerg surfing would 2 shot any cloth class from 1800 units away. ( 5 Rangers x 2 shots of 2k a piece =20k) (actual damage would be higher)

A Thief would want no part of trying to gank one of those Rangers.

I would change servers to be part of something like that.

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Posted by: metachu.2376

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Against loosely armored people I hit for 4-5k =) per auto attack.

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

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If 5 ranger can work out well, imagine 5 of anything else.
Seriously, you can’t name a class that wouldn’t be dead serious in a squad, with the exception of Rangers, which is possible, but requires the skill and preparations, not like at all the others…

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If 5 ranger can work out well, imagine 5 of anything else.
Seriously, you can’t name a class that wouldn’t be dead serious in a squad, with the exception of Rangers, which is possible, but requires the skill and preparations, not like at all the others…

What other class hits for between 2-5k from 1800 units away?

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

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^^^^^^
Engineer ’nades?
And Rangers barely hit more than 3.5k (full berzerk), could go up to 5k if they buff well but you know how long can they keep that up… 5 seconds and everything falls apart.

Game needs multiple roles for every class and playstyle, including Rangers.

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

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ive actually ran an all ranger squad before, we only had 8 at the time but I worked out everything and we were actually pretty successful against small guilds and zergs (10-20ish)

without slotting EB, we had rlly good condition clear from the healing springs and traits, permanent regen, 2.7k+ armor, 5-7k aa, and an insane amount of aoe soft cc, it was so fun, we’d literally watch enemies zerg hobble towards us as we pew pew’d them to death, any condi clear they had was worthless cuz we’d apply like 2000000 cripples per second lol

the only ones who made it through were classes with teleports and stance wars lol, even then, we’d knock them back and they’d die soon enough

then the guild decided to transfer servers on a whim leaving over half of us behind, and it died out within a month

ahhh, fun times, it was good while it lasted :]

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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^^^^^^
Engineer ’nades?
And Rangers barely hit more than 3.5k (full berzerk), could go up to 5k if they buff well but you know how long can they keep that up… 5 seconds and everything falls apart.

Game needs multiple roles for every class and playstyle, including Rangers.

I didn’t realize Engineers had 1800 range.

Assuming they did, stand an Engineer 1800 units from a Ranger. Let the Ranger fire at Engineer while Engineer fires grenades. Guess who gets hit and who doesn’t?

5 seconds then everything falls apart? How so? A snipe from 5 rangers will kill someone in 2 seconds. Stand still? No, reposition, find another target, rinse/repeat.

I am the first to admit Rangers have issues. I try and play around those issues and play to their strengths. a 5 man snipe crew zerg surfing and focus firing would insta kill people from a long way away. There would be complaints.

If I am in the mood for something more front line I would likely play a different class rather than complain that a Ranger isn’t the best class for that role.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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@Natsu

Did ya quit the guild?

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