Guild Wars 2

So, I’ve ran a few fractals, majority of them with PUGs, and I’d like to say I’ve seen some pretty silly stuff go down. Granted GW2 PUGs are still more favorable than in other games, but you’d be surprised the kinds of things that happen for various reasons. So, I thought it’d be good to put together a drinking game for everyone’s most frequented dungeon, since I have a personal affinity for all things alcohol related.

Now, I know there is already an existing guide for this (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1whCe0ZuGOoTp78g8NIneBryAt7vmFH79AHTLM0WuSrA/edit?pli=1), but, it leaves out a lot of things that would make for good material. So, consider this a bit of an amendment to it rather than an actual replacement.

You can check it out below, as the posting limit won’t allow the whole thing here.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHOPInmjDvVCFgPu6-81Gje4zohXNMggMuTeffQo5ac/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to suggest other stipulations or changes to existing ones.

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

Ranger players will become alcoholics.

This is brilliant, hilarious and brilliant. However if I started on Raving Asura, I’d be too plastered to do the rest (I get knocked off minimum 3 times, and that’s just me…)
I could just imagine the hysterics over ts3 if I attempted this, the run would take hours, by god get me a party to do this with.

Drink if you get less than 2 yellows in a entire run lvl38+…. Im rlly drunk.

ExaDal.2017:

Drink if you get less than 2 yellows in a entire run lvl38+…. Im rlly drunk.

Hey, at least you get that one MF exotic that is account bound!

Sovta.4719:

ExaDal.2017:

Drink if you get less than 2 yellows in a entire run lvl38+…. Im rlly drunk.

Hey, at least you get that one MF exotic that is account bound!

I’m so depressed right now.

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

those magic find people are only sacrificing their vitality/ toughness. They still deal enough damage, so I don’t know why you would label them as leeches.

To the original poster – your post made me laugh. All the fractal pug runners would end up dead drunk after this XD

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

those magic find people are only sacrificing their vitality/ toughness. They still deal enough damage, so I don’t know why you would label them as leeches.

To the original poster – your post made me laugh. All the fractal pug runners would end up dead drunk after this XD

Could just run full berserker and actually contribute to the group.

Sovta.4719:

ExaDal.2017:

Drink if you get less than 2 yellows in a entire run lvl38+…. Im rlly drunk.

Hey, at least you get that one MF exotic that is account bound!

Right!! i forgot that!!! Drink if you salvage this exotic with BLSK and get no ectos.

Puandro.3245:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

those magic find people are only sacrificing their vitality/ toughness. They still deal enough damage, so I don’t know why you would label them as leeches.

To the original poster – your post made me laugh. All the fractal pug runners would end up dead drunk after this XD

Could just run full berserker and actually contribute to the group.

they still contribute to the group. If you would be able to run faster WITHOUT the person at all (with only 4 people) THEN you could claim that they don’t contribute.

Sooo pretty much get alcohol poisoning on one fractal level? :P

Drinking is very bad for you and damages your health. You shouldn’t post things like that on forums where the majority of people are age 12.

Mirta.5029:

Puandro.3245:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

those magic find people are only sacrificing their vitality/ toughness. They still deal enough damage, so I don’t know why you would label them as leeches.

To the original poster – your post made me laugh. All the fractal pug runners would end up dead drunk after this XD

Could just run full berserker and actually contribute to the group.

they still contribute to the group. If you would be able to run faster WITHOUT the person at all (with only 4 people) THEN you could claim that they don’t contribute.

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Mirta.5029:

Puandro.3245:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot every time a magic find leech joins. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning by now.

- finish off the entire bottle when no skins or rings come from the daily chest at the end.

those magic find people are only sacrificing their vitality/ toughness. They still deal enough damage, so I don’t know why you would label them as leeches.

To the original poster – your post made me laugh. All the fractal pug runners would end up dead drunk after this XD

Could just run full berserker and actually contribute to the group.

they still contribute to the group. If you would be able to run faster WITHOUT the person at all (with only 4 people) THEN you could claim that they don’t contribute.

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

Yes, because only idiots want experienced players with a certain amount of AR when doing high level fractals… It truly amazes me how the casual players in this game act like serious players are all “boneheads” for not wanting to run fractals 26 with a first timer with no AR.. Also magic find in a dungeon/fractals group is undoubtedly selfish. You’re using a stat that only benefits you by giving you more drops, and sacrificing a stat that would help make you more of an asset to the team.

1) I wish to ask why berserker? All I read is zerk zerk full zerk.
I’m lvl 3 fractal and we die a lot (also because first timer never listen to you when you try to explain…) but can’t understand why no one says healing tough or vit! Or at least balanced… Can someone explain me?
2) does vitality increase time needed to be revived?

borbottone.6241:

1) I wish to ask why berserker? All I read is zerk zerk full zerk.
I’m lvl 3 fractal and we die a lot (also because first timer never listen to you when you try to explain…) but can’t understand why no one says healing tough or vit! Or at least balanced… Can someone explain me?
2) does vitality increase time needed to be revived?

1.) Once you know the fights and how/when to be using invulnerability, evades and dodges and you are comfortable, many people will switch to a berserker set to maximise their damage while still retaining their survivability through movement and knowledge of fights instead of vitality/toughness/healing.

2.) I do not believe so. My understanding is that when downed, your HP is reset to a certain number.

You issue with people dieing lots at level 3 is likely because they lack the skills and experience to keep themselves up. At the low levels, fotm is extremely easy, but if you’re in a pug and they have no idea what’s going on, I generally recommend they play it safe with PVT or knights till they know what’s happening.

I have some additions to that:

Take a drink if a team mate dies due to you picking up the crystal right in front of him. Two drinks, if it is during the final eye-laser of the Jade Maw.

Take a drink if you fall right before the Asura boss, and the rest of the team has to wait for your sub-par platforming skills.

Take a drink if Mossman messes up your running in the swamp fractal.

Take a drink if skales mess up your plans in the swamp Fractal.

Take a drink when anyone complains about the swamp fractal or dredge fractal coming up.

Everyone take a drink when captain Ashym yells out “Rally to me athhhcaloniaaans”. Take one more drink if your team wipes here, because you should be ashamed of yourselves.

If anyone fails a jump at the lava fractal, he/she must also finish a drink. Falling through the hole at the final bridge to the boss also counts.

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

lol calling people who don’t want leeches in their team selfish. Golden.

but they’re not leeches. People are leeching only if they’re doing nothing. No damage at all. If their damage simply doesn’t fit in with your standards then you are an elitist that should not set standards for OTHER people to begin with.

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

lol calling people who don’t want leeches in their team selfish. Golden.

but they’re not leeches. People are leeching only if they’re doing nothing. No damage at all. If their damage simply doesn’t fit in with your standards then you are an elitist that should not set standards for OTHER people to begin with.

By your logic I should just join a dungeon naked and only help kill things half the time. I’m still contributing, just not as much as everyone else. But I still am, so therefore who are you to question me? You filthy leetist you.

if you join a dungeon naked you are purposively gimping yourself and then you state that you wouldn’t even attack most mobs… -_- However if you joined a dungeon in blue level 80 MF gear and attacked the same things as your team I wouldn’t kick you because you still would be contributing.

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

lol calling people who don’t want leeches in their team selfish. Golden.

but they’re not leeches. People are leeching only if they’re doing nothing. No damage at all. If their damage simply doesn’t fit in with your standards then you are an elitist that should not set standards for OTHER people to begin with.

By your logic I should just join a dungeon naked and only help kill things half the time. I’m still contributing, just not as much as everyone else. But I still am, so therefore who are you to question me? You filthy leetist you.

Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

lol calling people who don’t want leeches in their team selfish. Golden.

but they’re not leeches. People are leeching only if they’re doing nothing. No damage at all. If their damage simply doesn’t fit in with your standards then you are an elitist that should not set standards for OTHER people to begin with.

By your logic I should just join a dungeon naked and only help kill things half the time. I’m still contributing, just not as much as everyone else. But I still am, so therefore who are you to question me? You filthy leetist you.

if you join a dungeon naked you are purposively gimping yourself and then you state that you wouldn’t even attack most mobs… -_- However if you joined a dungeon in blue level 80 MF gear and attacked the same things as your team I wouldn’t kick you because you still would be contributing.

Bolded text is case and point. Thankyou!

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

So true, so true -_-

Apologies OP, I’m leaving it at that, I guess I should have known the MF crusaders would respond to any mention of MF.

swiftpaw.6397:

Bolded text is case and point. Thankyou!

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

So true, so true -_-

Apologies OP, I’m leaving it at that, I guess I should have known the MF crusaders would respond to any mention of MF.

thank you for stopping reading right there. How about finishing reading?

However if you joined a dungeon in blue level 80 MF gear and attacked the same things as your team I wouldn’t kick you because you still would be contributing.

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Bolded text is case and point. Thankyou!

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

So true, so true -_-

Apologies OP, I’m leaving it at that, I guess I should have known the MF crusaders would respond to any mention of MF.

thank you for stopping reading right there. How about finishing reading?

However if you joined a dungeon in blue level 80 MF gear and attacked the same things as your team I wouldn’t kick you because you still would be contributing.

You are still gimping yourself of a stat that could be used to contribute to the team. Doesn’t matter how much you try to argue it.

Why don’t you go make a ‘magic find is good in dungeons’ thread instead of trying to derail this one? thanks!

edit- I’m deleting my responses to your derail out of respect for OP.

One shot for every deleted post!

Rangers are the real leeches in dungeons.

swiftpaw.6397:

You are still gimping yourself of a stat that could be used to contribute to the team. Doesn’t matter how much you try to argue it.

Why don’t you go make a ‘magic find is good in dungeons’ thread instead of trying to derail this one? thanks!

edit- I’m deleting my responses to your derail out of respect for OP.

One shot for every deleted post!

the stats that you do have is
power
condition damage
or
power
precision
All of these are damage stats. I find it funny that you wouldn’t say that to a person with toughness and vitality “you could be doing more damage, you’re gimping the group, why don’t you run naked?”, but you would to an MF person even though their damage output would be the same. That’s simply illogical. Especially when the MF person could just lie to you and if he is a good player you would never know.

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

You are still gimping yourself of a stat that could be used to contribute to the team. Doesn’t matter how much you try to argue it.

Why don’t you go make a ‘magic find is good in dungeons’ thread instead of trying to derail this one? thanks!

edit- I’m deleting my responses to your derail out of respect for OP.

One shot for every deleted post!

the stats that you do have is
power
condition damage
or
power
precision
All of these are damage stats. I find it funny that you wouldn’t say that to a person with toughness and vitality “you could be doing more damage, you’re gimping the group, why don’t you run naked?”, but you would to an MF person even though their damage output would be the same. That’s simply illogical. Especially when the MF person could just lie to you and if he is a good player you would never know.

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

This is a mantra I think I’ll be chanting for a while to come.

As I have said previously, at least have the respect to take your irrational rantings somewhere else. Make your own thread instead of ruining this one.

One shot for each time this guy ignores the OP and continues on his magic find tirade!

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

You are still gimping yourself of a stat that could be used to contribute to the team. Doesn’t matter how much you try to argue it.

Why don’t you go make a ‘magic find is good in dungeons’ thread instead of trying to derail this one? thanks!

edit- I’m deleting my responses to your derail out of respect for OP.

One shot for every deleted post!

the stats that you do have is
power
condition damage
or
power
precision
All of these are damage stats. I find it funny that you wouldn’t say that to a person with toughness and vitality “you could be doing more damage, you’re gimping the group, why don’t you run naked?”, but you would to an MF person even though their damage output would be the same. That’s simply illogical. Especially when the MF person could just lie to you and if he is a good player you would never know.

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

This is a mantra I think I’ll be chanting for a while to come.

As I have said previously, at least have the respect to take your irrational rantings somewhere else. Make your own thread instead of ruining this one.

One shot for each time this guy ignores the OP and continues on his magic find tirade!

I mean with their logic with MF gear you do same damage as zerker.
Toughness and vitality are useless ofc.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

Yes, i want change how ppl play if your play style included selfishness. MF only helps ONE player. I dont want for all warrs (or DPS dealers) y want for guardians with heals and aegis, i want for thiefs whith stealths, mesmers with portals, etc. It´s very simple, player with MF (any class) lost one usefull to the group (like healing power, vit, etc, not only a DPS stat) stat just to gain a usefull stat for him. I´m sorry but i think that is wrong and selfish playstile.
I have a full set of MF but only use it when i play alone.

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

Yes, i want change how ppl play if your play style included selfishness. MF only helps ONE player. I dont want for all warrs (or DPS dealers) y want for guardians with heals and aegis, i want for thiefs whith stealths, mesmers with portals, etc. It´s very simple, player with MF (any class) lost one usefull to the group (like healing power, vit, etc, not only a DPS stat) stat just to gain a usefull stat for him. I´m sorry but i think that is wrong and selfish playstile.
I have a full set of MF but only use it when i play alone.

Toughness and vitality helps only one player too mind you. Only damaging stats and healing power can help the group in any way.
I find it funny, because those people in a lot of situations honestly try really hard, they help the team, try not to go down, deal a lot of damage, but then get dissed if they say that they have MF gear, even though they themselves had to sacrifice survivability for it and adapt a flawless gameplay that took them time to master in order to increase the drops that they get.
When a person already has made a sacrifice it’s selfish to outcast them from the community and call them selfish. When people are that negative I wonder how many people I could recruit into my small guild by saying “we won’t judge your play style”.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

Yes, i want change how ppl play if your play style included selfishness. MF only helps ONE player. I dont want for all warrs (or DPS dealers) y want for guardians with heals and aegis, i want for thiefs whith stealths, mesmers with portals, etc. It´s very simple, player with MF (any class) lost one usefull to the group (like healing power, vit, etc, not only a DPS stat) stat just to gain a usefull stat for him. I´m sorry but i think that is wrong and selfish playstile.
I have a full set of MF but only use it when i play alone.

Toughness and vitality helps only one player too mind you. Only damaging stats and healing power can help the group in any way.
I find it funny, because those people in a lot of situations honestly try really hard, they help the team, try not to go down, deal a lot of damage, but then get dissed if they say that they have MF gear, even though they themselves had to sacrifice survivability for it and adapt a flawless gameplay that took them time to master in order to increase the drops that they get.
When a person already has made a sacrifice it’s selfish to outcast them from the community and call them selfish. When people are that negative I wonder how many people I could recruit into my small guild by saying “we won’t judge your play style”.

Toughness and vitality helps only one player? really?. If you have more vit or tough still alive for more time, so can make dmg for more time, heal for more time and use skills (like walls, smoke screens, etc) for more time, in brief, contribute to the group for more time. Team dont waste time (and again dps, heal) res you.

But don´t problem at all. Continue using your MF set in dungeons if you think that is good.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

Yes, i want change how ppl play if your play style included selfishness. MF only helps ONE player. I dont want for all warrs (or DPS dealers) y want for guardians with heals and aegis, i want for thiefs whith stealths, mesmers with portals, etc. It´s very simple, player with MF (any class) lost one usefull to the group (like healing power, vit, etc, not only a DPS stat) stat just to gain a usefull stat for him. I´m sorry but i think that is wrong and selfish playstile.
I have a full set of MF but only use it when i play alone.

Toughness and vitality helps only one player too mind you. Only damaging stats and healing power can help the group in any way.
I find it funny, because those people in a lot of situations honestly try really hard, they help the team, try not to go down, deal a lot of damage, but then get dissed if they say that they have MF gear, even though they themselves had to sacrifice survivability for it and adapt a flawless gameplay that took them time to master in order to increase the drops that they get.
When a person already has made a sacrifice it’s selfish to outcast them from the community and call them selfish. When people are that negative I wonder how many people I could recruit into my small guild by saying “we won’t judge your play style”.

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

Sovta.4719:

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

what if you don’t go down? Mesmers, for example have lots of blocks, warriors can have near infinite dodge.
You know what has hurt me bad in dungeons? It wasn’t MF users, even though those are the only ones that seem to get beaten. It was people too ignorant to learn, people that don’t know dungeon mechanics and people that refuse to help the team and instead just try to DPS a boss down. Those people tend to leech off the group. Gear set doesn’t really matter.
But hell, why am I repeating the same thing over and over and over again? You’re all obviously too selfish and ignorant to care about anything else besides the gear set of random people that you find in game. I don’t think that you’re a good dungeoner at all.

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

what if you don’t go down? Mesmers, for example have lots of blocks, warriors can have near infinite dodge.
You know what has hurt me bad in dungeons? It wasn’t MF users, even though those are the only ones that seem to get beaten. It was people too ignorant to learn, people that don’t know dungeon mechanics and people that refuse to help the team and instead just try to DPS a boss down. Those people tend to leech off the group. Gear set doesn’t really matter.
But hell, why am I repeating the same thing over and over and over again? You’re all obviously too selfish and ignorant to care about anything else besides the gear set of random people that you find in game. I don’t think that you’re a good dungeoner at all.

If you don´t go down change your MF stat to a DPS stat to deal more damage and help your party or healing power and help your party.

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

what if you don’t go down? Mesmers, for example have lots of blocks, warriors can have near infinite dodge.
You know what has hurt me bad in dungeons? It wasn’t MF users, even though those are the only ones that seem to get beaten. It was people too ignorant to learn, people that don’t know dungeon mechanics and people that refuse to help the team and instead just try to DPS a boss down. Those people tend to leech off the group. Gear set doesn’t really matter.
But hell, why am I repeating the same thing over and over and over again? You’re all obviously too selfish and ignorant to care about anything else besides the gear set of random people that you find in game. I don’t think that you’re a good dungeoner at all.

If you don´t go down change your MF stat to a DPS stat to deal more damage and help your party or healing power and help your party.

but that’s the point. Now you have the mentality of “you’re doing well? Well I want you to do better because it’s selfish not to!”. No. Just no. Everyone has the right to gear up the way they want and you don’t get a say in it. On the upside I just added plenty of names to my in-game block list just to never run a dungeon with such people. This is where the discussion should end. You’re free to block me in game too, so our paths would never cross, because I can’t stand elitism and you seem to not be able to stand other people unless you get to say to them how to dress.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

what if you don’t go down? Mesmers, for example have lots of blocks, warriors can have near infinite dodge.
You know what has hurt me bad in dungeons? It wasn’t MF users, even though those are the only ones that seem to get beaten. It was people too ignorant to learn, people that don’t know dungeon mechanics and people that refuse to help the team and instead just try to DPS a boss down. Those people tend to leech off the group. Gear set doesn’t really matter.
But hell, why am I repeating the same thing over and over and over again? You’re all obviously too selfish and ignorant to care about anything else besides the gear set of random people that you find in game. I don’t think that you’re a good dungeoner at all.

If you don´t go down change your MF stat to a DPS stat to deal more damage and help your party or healing power and help your party.

but that’s the point. Now you have the mentality of “you’re doing well? Well I want you to do better because it’s selfish not to!”. No. Just no. Everyone has the right to gear up the way they want and you don’t get a say in it. On the upside I just added plenty of names to my in-game block list just to never run a dungeon with such people. This is where the discussion should end. You’re free to block me in game too, so our paths would never cross, because I can’t stand elitism and you seem to not be able to stand other people unless you get to say to them how to dress.

I don´t block you in the forums and i don´t block you in the game. I undersand your point but don´t agree with you. I think elitism is when ppl look for a specific gear or class and don´t accept other thinks. I don´t have this problem, you can use the gear, build or class that you want, except for MF on dungeons.

ExaDal.2017:

I don´t block you in the forums and i don´t block you in the game. I undersand your point but don´t agree with you. I think elitism is when ppl look for a specific gear or class and don´t accept other thinks. I don´t have this problem, you can use the gear, build or class that you want, except for MF on dungeons.

there you go. You don’t accept a specific gear type. “You can do whatever you want, but not this, this or this!”.

Nikaido.3457:

You’re free to run MF but we are free to kick you out of party.

actually if you kick someone mid party because you disagree with their gear type, you can be reported for griefing and banned. I’m also free to block you as a security measure to make sure that I never end up in your party.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

I don´t block you in the forums and i don´t block you in the game. I undersand your point but don´t agree with you. I think elitism is when ppl look for a specific gear or class and don´t accept other thinks. I don´t have this problem, you can use the gear, build or class that you want, except for MF on dungeons.

there you go. You don’t accept a specific gear type. “You can do whatever you want, but not this, this or this!”.

Nikaido.3457:

You’re free to run MF but we are free to kick you out of party.

actually if you kick someone mid party because you disagree with their gear type, you can be reported for griefing and banned. I’m also free to block you as a security measure to make sure that I never end up in your party.

That is not griefing and arenanet doesn’t care anyway, this kind of topic is used just so players can update block list.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

I don´t block you in the forums and i don´t block you in the game. I undersand your point but don´t agree with you. I think elitism is when ppl look for a specific gear or class and don´t accept other thinks. I don´t have this problem, you can use the gear, build or class that you want, except for MF on dungeons.

there you go. You don’t accept a specific gear type. “You can do whatever you want, but not this, this or this!”.

Thats fine men, you are right. Keep runing dungeons with MF.

To OP, sorry for this uselles discussion.

Take a shot every time you get a vial of condensed mists essence drop.

Not gonna be a problem as I only got 1 from 200 fractals, lol.

swiftpaw.6397:

One shot for each time this guy ignores the OP and continues on his magic find tirade!

I thiNk *hic *, I’M reaLlyy * hic * druuuuUUunkK now.

Take a shot every time you get a vial of condensed mists essence drop.

Not going to be a problem with all the MF I’m wearing!

Oooooooh, see what I did there?!

LOL. I would be dead.