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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

((( fries Forum bug in week old Fry oil )))

geh!

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Posted by: IvanTheGrey.2941

IvanTheGrey.2941

I would say that I’m sensing a nerf to fgs coming in, but it doesn’t affect their precious PvP, so it’s probably not going to happen, or it’ll happen next year.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

I suspect necro dagger will get the same treatment as thief dagger. That definately is an improvement but it feels like a temporary solution until a new weapon comes along.

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Posted by: Ariete The Phoenix.8276

Ariete The Phoenix.8276

I want a whip plz. Mesmer/thief/ele/necro whip…the possibilities!

Also known as Liahm Lee

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

I want a whip plz. Mesmer/thief/ele/necro whip…the possibilities!

I can’t help but feel Ele would be silly with it as they have whip being part of their dagger /shrug. Air auto with dagger = whip, air auto with whip =… dagger???

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

ohh and if you join in on Ivan’s Arah tour, (( eyes Danica and LIlith ))

and I somehow manage to make it.

not only do you get him to sing for you but we talk about food the whole way…

0.o

Watch out this makes you hungry.

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

As nice as the semi cleave for the dagger on thief is, there are fights where I actually enjoy the fact that the daggers don’t cleave, like Yanonka. But those are niche problems I guess.

What annoys me is the Black Powder change. I get it from a pvp point of view but we already have different boon durations in pve and pvp in some cases, different damage for confusion for example and different initiative costs for Pistol Whip in pve and pvp. So why not go all the way and split skills more between pve and pvp. Would make the initial effort greater, but make balancing all around much easier.

And I’m not that much of a fan of the adrenalin changes either.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

As nice as the semi cleave for the dagger on thief is, there are fights where I actually enjoy the fact that the daggers don’t cleave, like Yanonka. But those are niche problems I guess.

What annoys me is the Black Powder change. I get it from a pvp point of view but we already have different boon durations in pve and pvp in some cases, different damage for confusion for example and different initiative costs for Pistol Whip in pve and pvp. So why not go all the way and split skills more between pve and pvp. Would make the initial effort greater, but make balancing all around much easier.

And I’m not that much of a fan of the adrenalin changes either.

ANet doesn’t want to have seperate skillpools which is stupid because they already have as you said + it would make things so much better.

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Posted by: DigitalKirin.9714

DigitalKirin.9714

So, I hear that scrub newbie dungeoneers can find people to play with around these here parts.

I’m glad you’re here.

Genevieve Talbot [NP] – Noble Phantasm on Stormbluff Isle

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I like how they heavily nerf the only decent weapon combinations while giving minor buffs to completely useless sets that will never be used, even if they buffed their damage by a 50%. They pretend they’re moving a little of this stagnant and murky game by adding some cds here, some damage there.
I’m… bleh. Disgusted.
It’s so cheap, so lame that I don’t even know what to say. Sadly, they’re not the only ones that do it. “Look, we nerfed all your damage skills by a straight 60%, but now this useless skill lasts 5% more! [neverwinter]”
I fear for my favourite classes. See, this is the nice thing about liking a measly class like the ranger. It can’t possibly be nerfed more than this.

inb4 “reduced sword aa damage by 10%”

Pardon the outrage, but I’m really sick of this stagnation. I can’t even take a break, because it wouldn’t change anything. If I came back, the game would be exactly the same… and I should pay gems to unlock stuff. L.O.L.

E: lol at you Joe for thinking a new weapon is gonna come out.

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Posted by: Minigrump.4961

Minigrump.4961

so i was running around on the new ele that i have made and during the process of levelling up, i thought about the idea of trying to do lupi with a group of players that are not level 80. say like a group of 60s, or even 30s. has anyone ever attempted it before? and would it be even possible?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

so i was running around on the new ele that i have made and during the process of levelling up, i thought about the idea of trying to do lupi with a group of players that are not level 80. say like a group of 60s, or even 30s. has anyone ever attempted it before? and would it be even possible?

Gotta be a certain level to do more than like 0-1 damage glancings and to even land conditions. I want to say that for like lvl 80-84 it’s a requirement of 75 or 76? I can’t remember for sure.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

At level 52 you have 50% of level 80 power. Then your critical change gets nuked (about 50% less damage) and every hit glances (50% less damage). Weapon strength is probably about 50% too.

Above results in ~ 95% less damage.

Then you have worse traits, runes and sigils and also no conditions (mainly vulnerability) so at the end it is probably like 97.5% less damage.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

I suspect necro dagger will get the same treatment as thief dagger. That definately is an improvement but it feels like a temporary solution until a new weapon comes along.

We can totally expect a cleave, but not just on two targets, most likely a true cleave like other classes.

Snow Crows [SC]

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

I suspect necro dagger will get the same treatment as thief dagger. That definately is an improvement but it feels like a temporary solution until a new weapon comes along.

We can totally expect a cleave, but not just on two targets, most likely a true cleave like other classes.

I admire your optimism.

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

I like how they heavily nerf the only decent weapon combinations while giving minor buffs to completely useless sets that will never be used, even if they buffed their damage by a 50%. They pretend they’re moving a little of this stagnant and murky game by adding some cds here, some damage there.
I’m… bleh. Disgusted.
It’s so cheap, so lame that I don’t even know what to say. Sadly, they’re not the only ones that do it. “Look, we nerfed all your damage skills by a straight 60%, but now this useless skill lasts 5% more! [neverwinter]”
I fear for my favourite classes. See, this is the nice thing about liking a measly class like the ranger. It can’t possibly be nerfed more than this.

inb4 “reduced sword aa damage by 10%”

Pardon the outrage, but I’m really sick of this stagnation. I can’t even take a break, because it wouldn’t change anything. If I came back, the game would be exactly the same… and I should pay gems to unlock stuff. L.O.L.

E: lol at you Joe for thinking a new weapon is gonna come out.

Truth be told the announced Ranger changes were what made me hopeful for the class tweaks. The signet change alone made the changes worhtwile and the rest are nice as well. Nothing too over the top, but useful.
And then came along the warrior and thief changes. I might see this overly bleak since I mostly play warrior, guard and thief, but I’m still put off by this.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I like how they heavily nerf the only decent weapon combinations while giving minor buffs to completely useless sets that will never be used, even if they buffed their damage by a 50%. They pretend they’re moving a little of this stagnant and murky game by adding some cds here, some damage there.
I’m… bleh. Disgusted.
It’s so cheap, so lame that I don’t even know what to say. Sadly, they’re not the only ones that do it. “Look, we nerfed all your damage skills by a straight 60%, but now this useless skill lasts 5% more! [neverwinter]”
I fear for my favourite classes. See, this is the nice thing about liking a measly class like the ranger. It can’t possibly be nerfed more than this.

inb4 “reduced sword aa damage by 10%”

Pardon the outrage, but I’m really sick of this stagnation. I can’t even take a break, because it wouldn’t change anything. If I came back, the game would be exactly the same… and I should pay gems to unlock stuff. L.O.L.

E: lol at you Joe for thinking a new weapon is gonna come out.

Truth be told the announced Ranger changes were what made me hopeful for the class tweaks. The signet change alone made the changes worhtwile and the rest are nice as well. Nothing too over the top, but useful.
And then came along the warrior and thief changes. I might see this overly bleak since I mostly play warrior, guard and thief, but I’m still put off by this.

But those number tweaks aren’t going to change anything. The ranger is a perfectly fine class in dungeon and I know it full well, but it’s nothing special and a very small dps buff isn’t going to make it much better. What I want is CHANGES. Changes to the core mechanics (sword aa top) that make the class clunky. It’s not unplayable or bad, but I’m frustrated at the stagnation of all the classes because they won’t bother spicing things up. No new weapons, barely a couple of skills, a handful of traits. It’s not enough, FREAKING TWO YEARS INTO THE GAME.

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

[…]

But those number tweaks aren’t going to change anything. The ranger is a perfectly fine class in dungeon and I know it full well, but it’s nothing special and a very small dps buff isn’t going to make it much better. What I want is CHANGES. Changes to the core mechanics (sword aa top) that make the class clunky. It’s not unplayable or bad, but I’m frustrated at the stagnation of all the classes because they won’t bother spicing things up. No new weapons, barely a couple of skills, a handful of traits. It’s not enough, FREAKING TWO YEARS INTO THE GAME.

I cannot argue that last point. Not even from an advocatus diaboli standpoint.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Eh, I know. I can’t defend devs when my friends on ts that quit the game bash on it for this very reason. It’s inexcusable.

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

Find new friends

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Find new friends

Were irreplacable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

<3 Yayyy. I was so sad without you.

And yeah, they’re totally irreplaceable. I feel bad for whoever doesn’t know how it feels like to have friends like this.

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

That’s what a guy that I used to work wit say before they replaced him.

I am hoping that the necro preview is good though, I want them to be seen in teams more and be wanted

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

Find new friends

Were irreplacable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

<3 Yayyy. I was so sad without you.

And yeah, they’re totally irreplaceable. I feel bad for whoever doesn’t know how it feels like to have friends like this.

Do you miss me? :’ ( Cuz i miss ya, scrub.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

That’s what a guy that I used to work wit say before they replaced him.

I am hoping that the necro preview is good though, I want them to be seen in teams more and be wanted

All that optimism.
We’re probably going to get longer cast times, a few useless changes here and there and maybe damage buffs on a few skills.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Find new friends

Were irreplacable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

<3 Yayyy. I was so sad without you.

And yeah, they’re totally irreplaceable. I feel bad for whoever doesn’t know how it feels like to have friends like this.

Do you miss me? :’ ( Cuz i miss ya, scrub.

I do miss you, yeah.

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

That’s what a guy that I used to work wit say before they replaced him.

I am hoping that the necro preview is good though, I want them to be seen in teams more and be wanted

I’m very sad for you. No wait, whatever.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Play nice. Haha.

I slept for 13 hours. I feel accomplished.

[ARES]
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

Play nice. Haha.

I slept for 13 hours. I feel accomplished.

That’s like three of my nights… Lucky ya !

Snow Crows member since January 2014
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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

a big fluffy singing k I t t e n

I’m totally yours now.

Find new friends

Were irreplacable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

<3 Yayyy. I was so sad without you.

And yeah, they’re totally irreplaceable. I feel bad for whoever doesn’t know how it feels like to have friends like this.

Do you miss me? :’ ( Cuz i miss ya, scrub.

I do miss you, yeah.

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

That’s what a guy that I used to work wit say before they replaced him.

I am hoping that the necro preview is good though, I want them to be seen in teams more and be wanted

I’m very sad for you. No wait, whatever.

You’re nice to me in one post and mean in the next one. Makes me sad

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

a big fluffy singing k I t t e n

I’m totally yours now.

Find new friends

Were irreplacable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

<3 Yayyy. I was so sad without you.

And yeah, they’re totally irreplaceable. I feel bad for whoever doesn’t know how it feels like to have friends like this.

Do you miss me? :’ ( Cuz i miss ya, scrub.

I do miss you, yeah.

Find new friends

Were irreplaceable.

Btw gabe, i will prob start playing again soon. Might have to wait till the necro preview though.

That’s what a guy that I used to work wit say before they replaced him.

I am hoping that the necro preview is good though, I want them to be seen in teams more and be wanted

I’m very sad for you. No wait, whatever.

You’re nice to me in one post and mean in the next one. Makes me sad

Soz, bipolar.
I don’t hate you at all.

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

yayz

/15chars

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Posted by: winterchillz.2564

winterchillz.2564

So, I got lucky and I actually managed to get Lupi down solo. Thankfully, he only dropped dome once and I was lucky enough to survive the rest of phase 3, although I panicked a bit and he ran off the wall. To be fair, I even think fighting him off the wall in phase 3 is actually a bit easier for me.

With many thanks to deSade, Blessing Nosferatu, Spoj, Enaretos and all my guildies for their support, constant teaching and the ability to bare with my newbish skills!

PS: Yes, my PC is crap so someone else had to record it for me :<

Cloud of Sparrows
Fluffiest Blood Legion Charr
“At least I die knowing my sisters are free”

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

So, I got lucky and I actually managed to get Lupi down solo. Thankfully, he only dropped dome once and I was lucky enough to survive the rest of phase 3, although I panicked a bit and he ran off the wall. To be fair, I even think fighting him off the wall in phase 3 is actually a bit easier for me.

With many thanks to deSade, Blessing Nosferatu, Spoj, Enaretos and all my guildies for their support, constant teaching and the ability to bare with my newbish skills!

PS: Yes, my PC is crap so someone else had to record it for me :<

Congrats on your first Lupi solo!

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Congratz :>

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

So, I got lucky and I actually managed to get Lupi down solo. Thankfully, he only dropped dome once and I was lucky enough to survive the rest of phase 3, although I panicked a bit and he ran off the wall. To be fair, I even think fighting him off the wall in phase 3 is actually a bit easier for me.

With many thanks to deSade, Blessing Nosferatu, Spoj, Enaretos and all my guildies for their support, constant teaching and the ability to bare with my newbish skills!

PS: Yes, my PC is crap so someone else had to record it for me :<

Congratz, that’s always a good acomplishment. It’ll come easier and easier after that.

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

I already love playing ele with pugs. Area retaliation, area darkness…

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

Tom Yzf.5872

^ It is a game within the game. Accurately determine when the current light field will end and try to place the firefield before the next light field appears. Alternatively, you can place the fire field over the light, and as soon as the light ends while your fire persists go blast crazy. ’tis the true test of skill

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

^ It is a game within the game. Accurately determine when the current light field will end and try to place the firefield before the next light field appears. Alternatively, you can place the fire field over the light, and as soon as the light ends while your fire persists go blast crazy. ’tis the true test of skill

Guess I have to do that. Though I have to learn managing all those skills with my messed up motor skills first, which will already take a bit. After that I’ll master the art of sneaking my fire fields between other combo fields.

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

Tom Yzf.5872

haha I hear ya, I’ve been pugging a lot with my engi lately and the delayed blasts and delayed firefields make the experience extra special

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

haha I hear ya, I’ve been pugging a lot with my engi lately and the delayed blasts and delayed firefields make the experience extra special

But then again, pugs make every experience special, if you want it or not. ;P

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

Guys guys … In the past days i have serious problem. Both the forums and wiki don’t really want to load in for me. What can cause it? My ISP is fine. Ideas? :/

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

But your speed test isn’t an indication of your routes taken to GW2 servers >_<

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

But your speed test isn’t an indication of your routes taken to GW2 servers >_<

GMB knows this!

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

That’s what I thought, hm. It’s the best one.
Ahhh, getting so old… I don’t even remember who said that first… was it aatse?

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Posted by: Jiyn.3158

Jiyn.3158

Gather ALL DA kittens!

Grandmaster Mind Brain

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

12 hours without post? pah.

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Jiyn.3158

The thread is dead

Never trust a Stormcrow.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

We gotta revive it!

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

Update on my stream performances :
- usually 20-30 viewers
- facecam brings 40+
- drunk brings 70+
- how to make gold stream gets me to 150+

Guys, I’ll move to BLTC forums, cya

Snow Crows member since January 2014
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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Update on my stream performances :
- usually 20-30 viewers
- facecam brings 40+
- drunk brings 70+
- how to make gold stream gets me to 150+

Guys, I’ll move to BLTC forums, cya

You! You took down your SE-lfg the second I wanted to join!

Well, now imagine using the facecam while drunk and then showing them how to make gold.