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spoj.9672

Meanwhile in Archeage….

All because i ninja’d his fortuna mine. And i thought the GW2 community was full of children.

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

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Meanwhile in Archeage….

All because i ninja’d his fortuna mine. And i thought the GW2 community was full of children.

I hope he is just roleplaying. Oo

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Your kidding spoj, your crazy taking on the alliance just so you can get you’re fortuna mine.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

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2:07 Lupicus duo with 2x staff eles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHvaATC62U

It was our first kill so there is for sure going to be a lot faster of a kill soon to come.

A few questions my friend asked that I answered already:
-we used X in air for the lightning storms, and also because there wasn’t much else relevant
-I don’t remember if Goku has ascended on his ele atm, but Lupicus just generally dislikes me so that might be why he was targeting me.
-Goku did not need renewing stamina because as already stated, Lupicus kitten hates me so he didn’t need to dodge nearly as much in phase 3. He still should have used 66020 instead, but it was like 1:30 AM for him so yea we just wanted to give it a few tries.

Lupi always does life drink to a target who has lower HP.
Goku didn’t use Renewing Stamina either, based on the lack of his Vigor buff. My bet is he was using 66200.
You stay way too close to Lupi during p1 – within his kick range.

That is actually not always true, he sometimes targets me on my warrior when I’m full hp and there are others like rangers/thieves etc. Most of the time he does exactly what you say as my ele is very often targeted, but not always.

I also put in the description that Goku was using 662 :P

Reason I was really close to Lupi in phase 1 is because I was blasting my lava fonts. I did not have blasting staff, so it was not possible for me to do so out of the kick range and simultaneously hit him. That’s why

I rarely see Lupi does life drink to a warrior preferentially to a ranger or much less a thief, unless you happen to aggro him first right after he’s landing. Between two possible targets, he 90% of the time life drinks the downs, and then the one with less HP, which also explains to me why mesmer’s clones are always the targets.

66200 has better DPS than 66020 and is generally easier to maintain.

Regarding Blasting Staff, I wonder if there is a DPS loss if you don’t have to place Lava Font too close to the wall, but preferably between the wall and your standing spot (a 600 distance). Also placing Arcane Wave mid way between the wall and your position should cover both the blast and the damage, at least.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Meanwhile in Archeage….

All because i ninja’d his fortuna mine. And i thought the GW2 community was full of children.

[rT] – wrecking (bad) everywhere they set foot to.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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I rarely see Lupi does life drink to a warrior preferentially to a ranger or much less a thief, unless you happen to aggro him first right after he’s landing. Between two possible targets, he 90% of the time life drinks the downs, and then the one with less HP, which also explains to me why mesmer’s clones are always the targets.

66200 has better DPS than 66020 and is generally easier to maintain.

Regarding Blasting Staff, I wonder if there is a DPS loss if you don’t have to place Lava Font too close to the wall, but preferably between the wall and your standing spot (a 600 distance). Also placing Arcane Wave mid way between the wall and your position should cover both the blast and the damage, at least.

I rarely see it too, I was just pointing it out that it’s not always the case that he’s after lowest HP pools is all really. Normally whenever I go on my ele he focuses on me but sometimes it’s not the case, and I very very often get surprises on my warrior… especially with him hauling kitten from me and then spontaneously bubbling.

But, erm… why would 66200 be better DPS than 66020 against vulnerable targets? o.O

And you are right about arcane wave, but arcane brilliance is really weird and you can’t use it as a blast finisher the same way as arcane wave. Oh btw, he was focusing on Goku for most of phase 1 and 2, so I was able to stand near him without issues for the most part.

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spoj.9672

His aggro probably resets on phase switch. And whoever hits him first after that will likely have an effect. Some people definately get focused more than others regardless of class but that might be because they are quicker to hit him after invuln wears off.

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Purple Miku.7032

Idk, Lupi is a weirdo lol.

I still don’t understand why he sometimes runs miles away after a big aoe leech and then bubble… doesn’t make sense to me.

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maha.7902

finally got a bad pug group

spend year waiting @ belka, solo from 40% onwards, don’t bother waiting @ abom and duo with some thief, lupi gets four grubs and i start soloing late phase 2 onwards, two dudes use res orbs then get gibbed and i keep going

run to alphard, start fight, they are running in circles and i’m not trying hard enough to dodge the bouncing orbs so i get dumped, we get it second try

run to brie, war cant run and switches to thief, he downs like 3 times on brie, we finish her duo

and then this gem:

http://i.imgur.com/avYtCtI.jpg

gudkitten ELITISTS ruining my PUG EXPERIENCE

also, the necro was completely new and then started discussing the lore of the path, lol

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deSade.9437

mahariel pls. go home u drunk u can’t hit nuthin with that longbow of yours.
dis kitten shamlen…

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maha.7902

wtf i killed some shems outside a ruin mang

and then later on i would dual-wield the high constable mace with starfang and rek the blight

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deSade.9437

ikr mang i told tamriel to kill dis shamlen cus he was stinkin’ like a kitten dark spawn, then BOOM all of a sudden imma babysit this nubcake templar that keeps whining over the loss of his f—friend or sumthin. “He laughed until… until….”
and then iunno, imma kill dis high dragon and smoke some elven root…

11pm and no patch, huh? Ok.
/goes back replaying elven origins

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Miku Lawrence.6329

They forgot LA was destroyed so they have to redecorate everything and can’t just release last year’s update.

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RemiRome.8495

Fixed a bug that caused the drop rate of fractal weapon skins to decrease above fractal level 40.

giggle

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Miku Lawrence.6329

These kittening kittens fixed aurastacking. Are u kittening serious?

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Iris Ng.9845

Fixed an exploit that allowed players to join a guild rush without being transformed into the rush creature.

Bwahahahahahaha… A certain guild comes to mind.

Phase Retreat: Fixed an issue that caused this ability to be reflected or blocked by enemies.

Aww shush, did they fix the troll-porting

The Halloween weapons Chiroptophobia, Araneae, Dead Stop, Bloody Prince’s Staff, and Silly Scimitar have been reduced to the price of 2 tickets for a limited time at a Black Lion Weapons Specialist.

YES!

There are only four weeks left to use tickets for Lovestruck, Dragon’s Jade, Aetherblade, Fused, and Dreamthistle weapon sets. After November 18, these sets will no longer be available for purchase with Black Lion Claim Tickets this year.

NO!!!

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- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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dlonie.6547

and then this gem:

http://i.imgur.com/avYtCtI.jpg

gudkitten ELITISTS ruining my PUG EXPERIENCE

You dirty, cheating elitist kibbeh. Not cheesing Lupi is an exploit.

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DonQuack.9025

I hate anyone who has more ap than me and a legendary but dont know what might stacking is.

Concerns about HoT pre-order? Check here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss

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deSade.9437

omg the new outfit omggggggggg
AND ZUZU! God god I want zuzu so badly oh god…
/faints

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Posted by: maha.7902

maha.7902

sold mats and food and other junk, bought it just now

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deSade.9437

Yeah I spent all my money for the outfit, now I’m nearly halfway through Zuzu…
But I lost a kitten cob and I can’t find it, satan knows I probably deleted it or sold it to a merchant without looking
/sob

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Iris Ng.9845

Zuzu = <3, mate!

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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Rasimir.6239

Adventures in pug-land, day 2:

Got home late, tried to duo CM p3 with a guildie, but eventually lost the instance to lag-related disconnects, so we gave up in that one. Instead I dragged him to pug CoF with me on his new-to-80 guardian

Advertise the group on lfg as “p1+2”. Group fills quickly, warrior starts to ping his banner despite the fact that he’s the only warrior in the group . We get to the accolyte part and people start going down again one after the other. I didn’t really pay attention to what happened, as I was busy enough keeping my mesmer alive who has like 3/4 of the flame legion on her tail. People start bickering about “how can class xyz even down in this encounter”, but eventually get a grip on themselves and we go on to finish the run. Below-average but ok run I guess.

Despite advertising as “p1+2”, people drop out wordlessly after the end of the path. Advertise for “p2” and get grouped with 3 warriors and 1 ele (I think … guildie had to leave after p1, so I was on my own again). One of the warriors doesn’t show up in the instance, so we kick him after a few minutes (already a good way into the instance). Another warrior actually volunteers to solo the lava field, and the instance goes on pretty uneventful. Stacks don’t always work since people don’t stack tight enough to los the bosses, but nothing really bad happens. Needs two rounds to get the flame down, nothing out of the ordinary.

Switch accounts, mesmer again (exotic zerker this time), and guildie is back, so we try for another “p2”. Group seems mostly experienced, flame goes down without going invulnerable again, all in all one of the nicer groups I’ve had.

Since it was already late and the guildie I was with had done p1, we decided to leave CoF then and round up the evening with a CoE p1 instead. Another guildie joins (on ele), and we get two warriors from lfg. One is clearly experienced with high damage and good survivability, the other one … not so. He almost messed up the console defence part by activating it without care for who else was activating/not activating. In the end we did 1/1/3, because he wouldn’t break the channel off when we had to interrupt the “4 at once” try, but I guess that’s something you have to expect when pugging.

All in all, I find I’ve started comparing pugs to much higher standards than I did when I last pugged regularly a few months ago. Friends and guildies seem to have spoiled me with smooth runs lately .

Moderately unrelated ramblings:

Would anyone care to explain to me what you have to look out for when soloing the lava field in CoF p2? Is it just “get to the other side quickly so Magg teleports after you before fighting mobs”, or do you actually have to baby-sit Magg to the other side?

Oh, and I went through my “old” forum posts (I think the oldest one is from april 2014 ) yesterday looking for a specific one, and realized what a totally clueless casual I was even just four or five months ago. I’ve been turned from a nice and innocent casual into a filthy elitist, and I blame it solely on the crowd here on the dungeon forums. Keep up the good work . One of my casual guildies was bragging on TS last night how he’d gained more than 30 gold in-game in just the last month … hard to believe I was in the same place just a few months ago.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Get there before Magg finds the 1st magmacite.

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Rasimir.6239

Get there before Magg finds the 1st magmacite.

Thanks for the quick answer, Miku! So you basically have to hurry across the magma field (without an extinguisher) while Magg is still debating the hour-long extraction in that basement-like corner between the fire orbs? Is it feasible to do so on Mesmer? I’d like to be prepared in case I get into another group where nobody dares to solo.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Yeah it’s doable on any class if you know the route and know when to dodge. On a mesmer just take mass invis, decoy and veil then just pop swiftness from focus and keep yourself stealthed for as long as possible while avoiding the fire AoEs on the rocks.

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snip

You were lucky We wiped 2 times in CoF 1 yesterday. Once to the slave driver. Didn’t even know this was possible.

At least no one did complain xD Guess everyone was busy chatting in other channels about the update that just hit :P

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Rasimir.6239

You were lucky We wiped 2 times in CoF 1 yesterday. Once to the slave driver. Didn’t even know this was possible.

You’ve obviously never been in a dungeon with my casual guild . Try to get on earlier tonight so we can run CoF together (and CM, and HotW, and …)! I’m not sure I’m in the mood for pugs today .

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Laulajatar.4253

No no no. No no no. No no no.
NOT HotW.

I doubt I’ll be home early enough today, too.

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

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You need 2 competent people to solo the lava part in CoF p2 when pugging.

- one person runs across
- one person stays by first rock
- make sure everyone WPs, there will be at least 1 person who runs back to the other side of the tunnel then WP (which is bad)
- once everyone is WP, the person at the first rock WP to teleport magg to the second rock.

Many players run out the tunnel to lose aggro to WP, but when everyone does this, Magg will follow you to the WP and it is a pain. This is why you have 1 person wait at the first rock, and WP from that rock (pointless to run magg to the start of the lava).

You can escort magg across, but he may get in combat and die next to 2nd rock which is also a pain.

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RemiRome.8495

when everyone does this, Magg will follow you to the WP

even though he’s busy chopping bits of oracyte?

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Basically npcs teleport to the closest player when you separate from them. So you need to make sure that when people waypoint, the closest player to Magg is the person at the other side of the lava. Magg wont interrupt his sequenced mining to teleport and will teleport/run to the nearest person right afterwards. So you can get people in position without worry while he is doing that.

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deSade.9437

Hai nubcake.

I finally got Bizet a.k.a. Zuzu, and he’s super cute. Now I finally have all the 3 kittens from the aristocats. My dream is almost fulfilled… just the tonic to complete it.

Is there any stealthed forum mesmer? I got my ascended assassin trinkets and I dunno if I should use them on my mes.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

http://i.imgur.com/al5OXzM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dPhdcti.jpg

Exploiting Fractals, the sexy pic edition.

Edit: Gg Iris on that recipe.

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RemiRome.8495

http://gfycat.com/ExaltedFoolhardyImperialeagle

Clock Tower, the potentially saving frames edition.

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deSade.9437

So I had some fun soloing the halloween bosses – to be exact, soloing the lich and the candy, then getting my butt handed to me by the labyrinthine horror. Urgh, I’m bad. He keeps kicking my kitten over and over with that greatsaw…
VROOM VROOM MOTHERKITTEN
Owell. So, I just get a quick mad king tower before leaving the labyrinth and that happens [screen]…
Like, 2 tries or something and you give up.
That’s my kazul! Behehe.
Dunno, I just found it rather funny. People literally freak out over the bosses and the jp.

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How did you solo the Lich? How many skeletons did he spawn on you? That one has a nasty life steal….

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Jerus.4350

How did you solo the Lich? How many skeletons did he spawn on you? That one has a nasty life steal….

Isn’t the skeletons a response to being hit with his AE thing?

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Taku.6352

How did you solo the Lich? How many skeletons did he spawn on you? That one has a nasty life steal….

Isn’t the skeletons a response to being hit with his AE thing?

Yes, if you dodge his main AoE attacks you can just tank and spank his auto attacks with some lifesteal foods and occasional healing skill usage.

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Rasimir.6239

Adventures in pug-land, interlude:

No new updates yet. RL has unfortunately kept me busy to the point where I couldn’t bring up the energy to pug anything at night. I totally avoided CoF on Wednesday, and only did one full run with guildies last night (which went pretty flawless ). I still need two runs on one account, and five or six on the other though to complete the armor sets, so there will surely be an update soon .

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TKiller.6829

So I had some fun soloing the halloween bosses – to be exact, soloing the lich and the candy, then getting my butt handed to me by the labyrinthine horror. Urgh, I’m bad. He keeps kicking my kitten over and over with that greatsaw…
VROOM VROOM MOTHERKITTEN
Owell. So, I just get a quick mad king tower before leaving the labyrinth and that happens [screen]…
Like, 2 tries or something and you give up.
That’s my kazul! Behehe.
Dunno, I just found it rather funny. People literally freak out over the bosses and the jp.

I had a go at horror but it was mostly a Throw axe fest. Maybe it will be better when I’ll be more sober but his multi-hitting autoattacks don’t help at all.

Defeated by packet loss.

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heads up gang..

Raid CDI starts Monday.

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I solo’d the horror on my necro when i logged on the other day. Or near enough. Had a few people come and help dps and die. But i had aggro the whole time. Double energy sigils and some soft CC is enough to keep you relatively safe. Plus consume conditions is op.

Gonna play some more this weekend. I want zuzu and enough gold to get the count outfit. :P

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hybrid.5027

heads up gang..

Raid CDI starts Monday.

Part of me wants to write an epic rundown of my opinions on what gw2 raids should be, challenge, progressions, rewards, design etc. Only I know what will happen is…

1. chris won’t acknowledge it.
2. The other Nike will post something like “raid instances should have crafting stations so we can use Artificer 500 to craft a special weapon to kill the boss lolz”.
3. Chris will respond with, “thats a clever idea!”
4. I’ll say that the idea is so dumb only a moron would think of something like that.
5. Another account will get banned from posting.

I know who I am, do you know who you are?

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deSade.9437

How did you solo the Lich? How many skeletons did he spawn on you? That one has a nasty life steal….

Isn’t the skeletons a response to being hit with his AE thing?

Yes, if you dodge his main AoE attacks you can just tank and spank his auto attacks with some lifesteal foods and occasional healing skill usage.

Yep… you have to dodge the attack that summons skeletons (the animation is the same of the human male casting meteor shower, the exact same but faster). That, and the fear thingy (magecrusher exploding marks). There’s also the attack that supposedly knocks you down, but I didn’t dodge it and sometimes it does nothing. Satan knows why :/
It’s the easiest among the 3, I think.

The problem with the kitten candy guy is that, if the labyrithine horror is roaming the area, you have to pull it in a corner where the horror won’t aggro. If you do this, in that corner there are a mummy, a lunatic and a griffon spawning. It’s very annoying to fight all of them at the same time, but the candy guy helps you killing them quickly.

I killed the horror in the end, but it wasn’t a solo. There was a random ranger guy with traps, ranging all the time, but he helped a little since he immobilised the skeleton a few times before dying. He also /cough ressed me.
Still, what’s the point of soloing something if all you do is kite around and throw axes? <.< It wasn’t fun at all. It was just me running around. Also, I hate undodgeable attacks.

Please, an instance where you can kill bosses safely, without having to wait for other stupid people like with the gauntlet and without having to solo a kitten long-kitten , boring dungeons with endless skips or having to jump around and exploit over the map like an idiot. Get in, get out.
Please? I hate having to repeat the same dungeon over and over just to get to an interesting boss.
I don’t know how people manage to redo the skip from wp to lupi more than a few times a day without feeling like they’re going insane. Done it two or three times for a couple of characters, never again.

Oh but wait, I forgot they’re not updating dungeons or doing instances that aren’t LS related.
Riiight. Forgive me.

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Ryn.6459

Pugland:

TAfwd: Leaurent’s Elite Guard. I was crossing barriers with Shield/defiant stance, and a guy was trying to cross after me, being downed every time (even after I explained the mechanics of the barriers). I guess my English is more awful than I thought.

By the way, the two guards I got (7K and 9 K AP) on this PuG, didn’t pop up Aegis. They didn’t know that was good for this.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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You have to dodge the attack that summons skeletons (the animation is the same of the human male casting meteor shower, the exact same but faster). That, and the fear thingy (magecrusher exploding marks). There’s also the attack that supposedly knocks you down, but I didn’t dodge it and sometimes it does nothing. Satan knows why :/

Hi!

You get knocked when nearby skeletons get consumed.

Best regards, Satan

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deSade.9437

/giggles

heads up gang..

Raid CDI starts Monday.

/laughs even harder
Yeah, right. Raid. AHAHAHAHA…. Raid! Ahahahaha

“Gather 150 people, pop 4 commander tags, wait a couple of hours in this megaserver and then take down this boss [which is obviously another undead dragon cus we no have enough] by spamming 1!!!! Collect your 3 blues, 1 rare and 10 empyreal fragments as a reward.”

Aha. Raid in gw2. I’m dyin’.

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deSade.9437

You have to dodge the attack that summons skeletons (the animation is the same of the human male casting meteor shower, the exact same but faster). That, and the fear thingy (magecrusher exploding marks). There’s also the attack that supposedly knocks you down, but I didn’t dodge it and sometimes it does nothing. Satan knows why :/

You get knocked when skeletons get consumed.

Loves. <3

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TKiller.6829

Still, what’s the point of soloing something if all you do is kite around and throw axes? <.< It wasn’t fun at all. It was just me running around. Also, I hate undodgeable attacks.

I don’t think labyrinth bosses have undodgeable attacks. The low casting time on horror’s aoe torment makes it really hard to react to unless your ping is ideal but other than that everything is dodgeable.

Defeated by packet loss.