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Posted by: deSade.9437

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I’m so sad. I wanted difficult elite missions so badly… call them raids, I don’t care… something like gw1.
Then I read the CDI and I realise we’re gonna get some recycled and revomited content from the LS or, at best, some super easy instance that lasts 30-35 minutes and can be beaten first try.
Someone hold me.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

I’m so sad. I wanted difficult elite missions so badly… call them raids, I don’t care… something like gw1.
Then I read the CDI and I realise we’re gonna get some recycled and revomited content from the LS or, at best, some super easy instance that lasts 30-35 minutes and can be beaten first try.
Someone hold me.

I didn’t post on the CDI, but I read enough of it to realize that we are never gonna get that kind of content. Its actually pretty depressing.

“We have now left Reason and Sanity Junction. Next stop, Looneyville.”

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Sad, isn’kitten
Most of the suggestions that make sense aren’t even considered because they come from “elitists”. See notrigger/spoj u.s.w.
The ideas I keep seeing over and over regard gear types and being able to replay LS.
….
I thought people had enough of that, but NO. More LS!
Ergh.
More LS, more world zergs, more crafting and more PvD, yayyyyy.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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I’ve never done “raids” before but in my mind a Raid = 5hr extra difficult dungeon run in a 10 people party with an epic, exclusive reward at the end. I honestly wouldn’t mind something like that. In fact, I would love if ANet added something like that. I’d even buy GEMS to access something like that.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I’ve never done “raids” before but in my mind a Raid = 5hr extra difficult dungeon run in a 10 people party with an epic, exclusive reward at the end. I honestly wouldn’t mind something like that. In fact, I would love if ANet added something like that. I’d even buy GEMS to access something like that.

Just think of the 12man instances in gw1. I want something like that. Urgoz, the deep… can watch videos if you like.
Dem feels…
Oh, sorry, I forgot that adding something specifically guild wars-flavoured to GW2 is a crime.
My baaaaad.
Bring it on, ls.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

I’ve never done “raids” before but in my mind a Raid = 5hr extra difficult dungeon run in a 10 people party with an epic, exclusive reward at the end. I honestly wouldn’t mind something like that. In fact, I would love if ANet added something like that. I’d even buy GEMS to access something like that.

Just think of the 12man instances in gw1. I want something like that. Urgoz, the deep… can watch videos if you like.
Dem feels…
Oh, sorry, I forgot that adding something specifically guild wars-flavoured to GW2 is a crime.
My baaaaad.
Bring it on, ls.

My time in the elite dungeons of Guild Wars 1 is what I remember best. Course I was running that Assassin’s Promise Elementalist Nuker at time time. Good times Good times.

Those were well designed fun areas, and they weren’t face roll easy. I can only hope to see something like that in Guild Wars 2 some day. But I think this game is going a long way in the wrong direction.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

I’ve never done “raids” before but in my mind a Raid = 5hr extra difficult dungeon run in a 10 people party with an epic, exclusive reward at the end. I honestly wouldn’t mind something like that. In fact, I would love if ANet added something like that. I’d even buy GEMS to access something like that.

It doesn’t need to be 5 hours. I mean in original EQ we had raids that would last 10, but that wasn’t what made them raids. It was the larger force and the epic feel, mainly that epic feel.

Take Arah, cut out the paths, add HP and multiple phases to each of the bosses so they are all as well made as Lupi, and there you have a raid.

I’ve had raids in EQ as short as 10 mins. In DCUO we beat one in ~6 mins (while it was current and still the hardest one available) but initially that same raid we’d spent 4+ hours in there just learning it and trying to figure it out to beat it and our average runs before we really perfected it were still 30mins-1hour.

Frankly I don’t have the desire or the time for 5 hour raids anymore. And, I haven’t done a single raid that took that long in years other than while we were just doing learning runs constantly failing. Back around 2003 from what I saw games kind of steered away from that either making shorter sections or allowing saved progress in raids so you could spread out the content over a whole week instead of individual long stretches of time. Instead of a 5 hour clear up to a final boss that took another hour it’d be taking out half of it one day, half another, then final boss the third or something like that.

I want challenge more than length, and with that challenge should come a difficulty that has us scratching our heads and spending hours on it for long enough to keep us entertained for a while until we perfect it and get it down to 30 mins clears or whatever. To clarify, by challenge and difficulty I mean complexity enough to force us to spend the time to learn it, while also involving enough execution difficulty to keep it entertaining (like Lupi IMO).

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Marionette was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard man, that’s the perfect raid.
It could keep me entertained for about a couple of da- no, what am I talking about. More like a couple of runs…

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

There have been some good ideas hidden among the noise. It was inspiring to see a red post with the idea of introducing a Dry Top sized map that was a 15 man instanced, multiboss open raid area.

It gives me a bit of hope that the ERP/crafting-type “raiding” suggestions are getting (rightfully) dismissed from consideration while they’re reading.

That said…I’ll have to see or hear what they’re getting from the discussion to really know if there’s any actual hope.

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spoj.9672

Well we will get some evidence of whether they can filter CDI’s effectively when they get round to acting on the fractal CDI. I wonder if that will happen during the end of season 2.

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Posted by: Sarahfull.4930

Sarahfull.4930

Well we will get some evidence of whether they can filter CDI’s effectively when they get round to acting on the fractal CDI. I wonder if that will happen during the end of season 2.

Tbh it was more a " want better fractal rewards thread " than a proper fractal CDI

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Boss and puzzle mechanics was discussed intensively aswell. But the biggest problem with fractals is the rng instance selection and poor rewards. Many of the bosses and mechanics are pretty decent already. So i kind of expected it to focus on rewards.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

Boss and puzzle mechanics was discussed intensively aswell. But the biggest problem with fractals is the rng instance selection and poor rewards. Many of the bosses and mechanics are pretty decent already. So i kind of expected it to focus on rewards.

One thing I would like to see is maybe a little bigger animation for Archidiviner ohko attacks, other than that, most boss mechanic are actually pretty nice, some are a bit easy but Ice element and dredge powersuit are example of very nice fight, same goes for molten duo, mossman is nice too.

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Posted by: Sarahfull.4930

Sarahfull.4930

I agree they were discussed but not intensively. It felt very much one sided for me, with a big heavy spotlight on rewards.

I only wish anet would use fractals as a testing ground for tougher AI. You guys ( people on this sub forum ) give great results and test things really well. We can trust you to say: " AI too OP " or " the AI is lacking here "
But this is just wishfull thinking, along with AI that uses active defence and strats back at us

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

I’m pretending raids aren’t happening, that way when they do happen I have nothing to be disappointed about if they’re bad, and a pleasant surprise if they’re good.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I’m pretending raids aren’t happening, that way when they do happen I have nothing to be disappointed about if they’re bad, and a pleasant surprise if they’re good.

Please, inundate me with the power of your mind brain and kittening teach me how to forget about that CDI happening. Every day I check, every day I feel dirty…

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

I’m pretending raids aren’t happening, that way when they do happen I have nothing to be disappointed about if they’re bad, and a pleasant surprise if they’re good.

Please, inundate me with the power of your mind brain and kittening teach me how to forget about that CDI happening. Every day I check, every day I feel dirty…

Aye it’s simple. Just busy yourself with being excited for the next set of ‘new’ endgame content that they release in the cash shop.

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Minigrump.4961

quick question. anyone know how long it takes to have the restriction on sending gold and items on a new account? been rat farming it up for the past 2 days or so and i have made a lot of gold and want to send some of it to my main account.

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

quick question. anyone know how long it takes to have the restriction on sending gold and items on a new account? been rat farming it up for the past 2 days or so and i have made a lot of gold and want to send some of it to my main account.

A month as far a I remember.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

I’m pretending raids aren’t happening, that way when they do happen I have nothing to be disappointed about if they’re bad, and a pleasant surprise if they’re good.

Please, inundate me with the power of your mind brain and kittening teach me how to forget about that CDI happening. Every day I check, every day I feel dirty…

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

I suddenly feel a mysterious force pulling me back to this game…

A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Just log into character selection and press “Y”. The force will dissipate rapidly.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

So last night, I go on a Pugadventure with 2 friends, we get 2 people who have never done Arah. After about 45 mins we get to Lupi. Spend like an hour on Lupi doing it hardmode because they insist on ranging while me and the 2 friends melee. Eventually one of the pugs goes to bed and we bring in another experienced friend, still though ranger ranging. Lots of bubbles lots of teleporting, eek. Well, we finally finish him off… and my internet goes out for the night and I can’t finish the run Such a terrible situation I had to share it. That said, lots of engi lupi practice for me last night

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I’m pretending raids aren’t happening, that way when they do happen I have nothing to be disappointed about if they’re bad, and a pleasant surprise if they’re good.

Please, inundate me with the power of your mind brain and kittening teach me how to forget about that CDI happening. Every day I check, every day I feel dirty…

Aye it’s simple. Just busy yourself with being excited for the next set of ‘new’ endgame content that they release in the cash shop.

:((((

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Just log into character selection and press “Y”. The force will dissipate rapidly.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

Just a heads up, based on tournament feedback from anet and the feedback thread I have posted some tentative rules changes for future events. Everything is still under discussion and if you have any input on these changes I’d like to hear.

http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/16766542-tentative-rule-changes/post/last#last

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Implying the boss bugs in p4 will be fixed. Lol.

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hybrid.5027

Grouch did send that specific issue to the QA team along with Detha bugging out in AC p2, so it isn’t crazy that it would be fixed.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Grouch did send that specific issue to the QA team along with Detha bugging out in AC p2, so it isn’t crazy that it would be fixed.

Now, I haven’t been playing as long as you all, just 260 days here, but I’ve seen Detha “Fixed” like half a dozen times…

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Hehe, I thought the same thing, Detha isn’t a great example of a dungeon fix ;-)

Maybe they will fix them. I hope they do.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

Guild wars 2 is a constant war between dev trying to fix Detha and Detha finding new way to bug AC path 2.

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No Pulse.2967

Guild wars 2 is a constant war between dev trying to fix Detha and Detha finding new way to bug AC path 2.

You are confusing Detha with iWarden.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

Guild wars 2 is a constant war between dev trying to fix Detha and Detha finding new way to bug AC path 2.

You are confusing Detha with iWarden.

Pretty sure those 2 are related.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

Guild wars 2 is a constant war between dev trying to fix Detha and Detha finding new way to bug AC path 2.

You are confusing Detha with iWarden.

Pretty sure those 2 are related.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

So, out of curiosity, I often solo arah path 2 on my warrior, I’m not hardcore like some players since Warrior is my 4th character, I play Guardian the most, Thief, and Ele, so I don’t expect to play like Miku :P.

So here’s my question, I did a couple Alphard using Pure axes recently instead of the usual GS build, my time improved just a little, I save maybe 10-20 seconds on my solo.

I often have to interrupt my hundred blades which is a huge DPS loss and I was wondering what you guys though about a Pure axe build for Alphard :P

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Posted by: GrimmR.3541

GrimmR.3541

I tried both and found myself staying with GS. Never had any bigger issues with 100b, maybe your timing isn’t perfect yet ? Gonna have a deeper look as soon as I get home which will be late tonight!

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Thought I’d share this gem.

It’s only 7AM, and the third post has already won my internets for the day.

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

In a spontaneous crafting session a few days ago, I made a complete set of Zojja’s ascended heavy armour and gave it to my guardian, who I haven’t really played in dungeons yet. I guess its high time to change that …

The problem is that I can’t bring myself to craft her a matching ascended set of weapons (sword, focus, greatsword is what she mainly uses right now), since I already have a Zojja’s version of those three (my only three ascended weapons) and would much rather use the resources to craft something with different skins to fill up my wardrobe (well knowing that I’ll most likely nevery use those skins on any of my characters anyway ).

Question: is it worth it to craft a set of Soros’ weapons (assassin stats), give those to my mesmer, and transfer the Zojja’s to the guardian? Or would you advise me to keep the exotics I currently use on the guardian and use the crafting resources to craft ascended weapons for my ranger (longbow, axe, possibly dagger) and ele (dagger, staff, scepter to share with the mesmer) instead?

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

I would craft assassins and give to mesmer and transfer the berserker stuff to the Guardian.

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Purple Miku.7032

Who is this creepy “kareem koko” guy on youtube? He left a comment on one of my videos…

“Purple Miku is scammer , he stealing the people by using illegal programms and his friends help him be carful all i will tag his account names
Enaretos.8079
J Eberle.9312
Tom Yzf.5872
Minigrump.4961?”

It must be somebody that uses the forums but it’s just overly-bizarre for a typical troll. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogKan2rTg8

^ Comment is on that video

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Sounds like this guy. (See the links to google cache). Similar misspellings and paranoid nonsense. Makes sense considering the other people he names.

Not sure how you got pulled into it though :-/

Are you absolutely certain that you’ve never stolen the people from him?

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hybrid.5027

I knew minigrump.4961 was a purple miku alt account for scamming.

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

Who is this creepy “kareem koko” guy on youtube? He left a comment on one of my videos…

“Purple Miku is scammer , he stealing the people by using illegal programms and his friends help him be carful all i will tag his account names
Enaretos.8079
J Eberle.9312
Tom Yzf.5872
Minigrump.4961?”

It must be somebody that uses the forums but it’s just overly-bizarre for a typical troll. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogKan2rTg8

^ Comment is on that video

He’s indeed the guy that got banned after he stole my AC P2. He raged all over my YouTube account and is now going everywhere trying to shame us/insult us on other websites, because GW2 wasn’t enough for him.

Maybe I should pm Chris Cleary to confirm if it was a perma-ban as I really want this creepy guy to stay away from me :/

Btw Miku, you got pulled into it because you commented my vedio of him griefing me…

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Kasia Sawicz is a kitten-poor english teacher from the sounds of it, too.

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Dub.1273

9.5/10, would read again.

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

The cached pages are pure gold.

Especially Doctor Swiftpaw. Priceless.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

Why did he not mention me? I feel offended.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

Wtf… so I guess that’s what it’s like to have a subhuman IQ level.

Also:

9.5/10, would read again.

PLS MASTER DOBE COME BACKKK :<

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

LS hype

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