Guild Wars 2

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Okay, so we have that sorted out.

Now, do you believe that dropping the “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” will help OP “bring to sight things people often overlook”?

I don’t expect the OP to change his perspectives at all based on some of his responses, and yours too (I assume you run things with him as well). I can only hope he’ll see the flaws in his ways after he spent sometime reading some of these posts.

Your answer has no relevance because you didn’t have his “responses” to base your first post on. And no, I have never seen him in-game ever.

As you can’t even correctly respond to a yes / no question (no being the right answer). I’m just gonna assume you lurk forums to troll and irritate people. Well, you had me mildly irritated I guess, well played.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Your answer has no relevance because you didn’t have his “responses” to base your first post on. And no, I have never seen him in-game ever.

As you can’t even correctly respond to a yes / no question (no being the right answer). I’m just gonna assume you lurk forums to troll and irritate people. Well, you had me mildly irritated I guess, well played.

Trolling would be correct if I don’t have evidence to back up my claims. I’m going to reuse the line I said in another thread towards this very same topic. You are going to ignore evidence and reasoning just because you took offense to 1 line?

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Your answer has no relevance because you didn’t have his “responses” to base your first post on. And no, I have never seen him in-game ever.

As you can’t even correctly respond to a yes / no question (no being the right answer). I’m just gonna assume you lurk forums to troll and irritate people. Well, you had me mildly irritated I guess, well played.

Trolling would be correct if I don’t have evidence to back up my claims. I’m going to reuse the line I said in another thread towards this very same topic. You are going to ignore evidence and reasoning just because you took offense to 1 line?

You are going to ignore the whole point of OP’s video because you took offense to 1 build?

You seem to have over-inflated your own ego here, Gab. Going to my video and trying to tear it apart in comparison is pretty funny, especially because you try to compare one class to another. Starting it off, my thief isn’t class cannon spec’d, but I don’t expect you to know that, how would you know? If it comes to as a surprise that a glass cannon warrior can out DPS a thief with defensive traits, you may want to do some revision of the classes. The warrior went down in the 4/1 split room because I accidentally DB’d out of my shrine/thing and it kicked him off of the totem and into the silver. Again, details you probably wouldn’t have noticed because you’re too busy stroking your ego.

I’m in the same boat as you, I could really care less about my team compositions, I advertise in GC or on TS and we get what we get. If you’re actually that ignorant as to assume you’re doing equal damage whilst you’re downed versus whilst you’re alive, you’re rather delusional. If you want to continue with comparing, both guardians had 0 DPS stats other than power, so even if you think that rangers are sub-par in terms of DPS, they contributed more than the guardians did.

My videos are made for educational purposes, so that I may attempt to help others in the community, not to show off my ‘ability’ or to be able to reference it. It’s a pretty heavy confirmation bias to claim that multiple signets provide the same survivability as other more utility based skills (see: banners, shouts), because it’s pretty obvious what the reality is.

I don’t really like to get into arguments like this, but it annoys me that you think you can just make personal attacks at people, referencing videos etc of their runs. Accept that some people know things that you may not, or that you may not have considered something, don’t just attack them for raising valid points. That is not how you learn more, nor how you develop new ideas. I’m sure you’ll neglect everything constructive I said and just retaliate with more personal attacks, but maybe one or two points from either Kevin or I will make it through your impenetrable ego.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

You seem to have over-inflated your own ego here, Gab. Again, details you probably wouldn’t have noticed because you’re too busy stroking your ego.

…you’re rather delusional.

…not to show off my ‘ability’ or to be able to reference it.

…will make it through your impenetrable ego.

I’m genuinely confused here. You don’t think it’s suitable for me to pick apart your video, and make comparisons to mine, and yet that is exactly what you did in your previous post.

Please also reflect upon the quoted sentences before you start talking about personal insults, or you will just look like a hypocrite.

By the way, if your guardians were support built it just further proves my point, which is that I apparently managed to survive better with my terrible glass cannon 17k HP build than the warrior in your team with two guardians supporting him. I realize that you might want to build your thief defensively, but it also seems like you die just as much, if not more than my warrior. Being defensively built this feels kinda weird.

Of course, judging a player from a single run (or a single YouTube video completely unrelated to anything that has to do with combat), is not very fair. But since you do it I have no real other option to refute your claims.

The only claim I made was about the spy kits, whichh wasn’t based on skill but on player build(s), as most of your party seemed to be pretty glass, you interpreted it that way. You further try to use confirmation bias’ to prove your inaccurate points. You do realise that your glass warrior also happens to have the highest base health and base armour in the game? Compared to the thieves low base ealth and medium armour class, it shouldn’t be a mystery. I went down once to AoE, you did as well. This confirmation bias didn’t even make sense, as we went down an equal amount of times.

You keep coming up with these points based on false or made up claims, why? Do you really believe that filling three utility slots with signets is superior? You keep referring to the warrior in my party. That warrior is a terrible player, is that what you’re looking for? If you want to play the ‘compare videos’ game, warriors went down in your party more than they did in mine. Due to lack of support orientated classes? Nope, with two warriors and a guardian you had access to as much support as the two guardians in my party provided, or attempted to; you potentially could have had even more than my party did via the two rangers as well (see: spirits, healing spring).

I’ve had plenty of experience with your guild, since before GW2 as well, and I consider myself friends with the guild in general. I’m aware of their ability and have always appreciated their presence in runs that myself or friends of mine form. The point I’m trying to make is that you’re blindly defending this ‘6 signet bar’ with no actual argument other than using confirmation bias’ from other videos (mine, kevin’s) to try and show that your 6 signet warrior(s) achieved a faster run. This argument is related to the bar, not individual playing ability. Granted, you did a good job of keeping yourself alive in a dungeon with very limited combat. Do you think you can compete equally in survivability to a more defensive based build with more useful utilities other than signets? We both know what the answer is, it just depends whether you want to accept it or not. Do you think the DPS increase warrants the increase in percent time spent downed? Think of it logically. If YOU (Gab) ran each bar, do you think that you would spend about the same amount of time downed? You would probably expect that with more defensive abilities you’d spend more time alive on average than with less defensive skills.

Food for thought, sorry if I offended you, may have been too aggressive at points. My argument is presented, try look at it from a logical or statistical standpoint, without the input of player ability or skill. That’s what matters, the potential of a bar by itself. You can pull off incredible damage and decent survivability with glass cannon specs, but if you rebalance your utility skills you can sacrifice a little bit of DPS for a considerable increase in defence, and perhaps even retain a little bit of DPS via shouts or certain banners.

I assume this’ll get locked any time soon, probably. So I’m done posting here, was interesting at times, and got kind of off-track (in terms of the argument – the thread topic is long gone), but perhaps those included came out of it with something. I for example, learned that warriors while downed still do absurd amounts of damage and shouldn’t have been shrugged off so lightly.

Severan Rye.6215:

@ Kevin.2176

1. This post is about gambling Arah great swords in the mystic forge – funny video included

2. You are here talking about someone’s ideal / idea of playing a game. video games are played for fun, you don’t “dictate” someone about their game-play (were you abused when you were a kid? Just curious.)

3. You are now considered a troll, because you are the kind of gutless slime that engages in everything but a repartee. You pride on your diction and I believe that is your unique (only) skill, a common trait un-used by many on the internet

4. Your signature makes me lol /Hoist the bandwagon flag.

5. A video is made up of 93847570987 (face rolled on keyboard for random number) or more screenshots – depends on the duration of the video and FPS

p.s. reported you for trolling, have a nice and jolly good day.

~Z

I am sorry that you felt the need to defend one of your dungeon buddy while skipping majority of the posts.

Would you find more value in the standard “Haha, that sucks you lost 1600 tokens” response instead? The point of my posts are to suggest what I believe in a be superior alternative, I provided reasoning and sources to back up my claims. I understand some people might not like being told such, but I’d rather getting this idea across than not saying anything at all.

My signature is based on a hilarious response made by another poster on these forums. I find it funny and I wish to share it with other people.

Further, I am a troll because I engage in everything except witty remarks? because that is my only trait which coincidentally is both “common” and “un-used by many”? I would becareful about throwing such slanderous remarks around simply because you disagree with my ideas.

P.S That particular video is rendered with 30 frames per second, its only 3240 frames.

-Zorro

@ Cookie

“Do you really believe that filling three utility slots with signets is superior? "

No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.

I too am sorry if I offended you, but it seems you misunderstood my point (the above). I never claimed that signets were superior, I claimed that depending on your team composition they MAY be superior (to banners(my fifth post)). I never claimed that my video was an accurate representation of how I always play warrior, or how it “should be played”(my seventh post). Due to the circumstances of the run however, I chose to run what I did. As I said, I often switch skills which is evident by the other video on the channel from my POV.

Gab Superstar.4059:

@ Cookie

No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.

That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.

Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

@ Cookie

No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.

That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.

Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.

How does “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” signalize anything else than your contempt for signets past level 79?

Gab Superstar.4059:

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

@ Cookie

No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.

That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.

Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.

How does “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” signalize anything else than your contempt for signets past level 79?

Post*S*.

The whole disregarding everything based on 1 line thing never really sunk in?

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Kevin.2176:

Gab Superstar.4059:

@ Cookie

No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.

That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.

Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.

How does “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” signalize anything else than your contempt for signets past level 79?

Post*S*.

The whole disregarding everything based on 1 line thing never really sunk in?

I don’t know what part of your reasoning I am disregarding actually. The fact that banners could potentially be better than signets? Here, I’m just gonna throw in some quotes from my posts throughout this topic;

“…Signet warriors work fine in general PvE…

…And it’s a good thing that you realize that utility skills are “highly encounter/situation dependent”, maybe then you will also realize that you don’t HAVE to run signets throughout an entire dungeon…

…He can obviously complete his Arah runs just fine, so why do you have a problem with it?…

…The discussion was not about my team composition in runs, it was about what you assumed the OP’s team composition was, leading you to make statements that may not be relevant because of it…

…I don’t personally run signets all the time (check for example latest video I uploaded to my channel), but at least I can realize the value most of them have, something you seem to be unable of doing…

…I’m not ignoring the fact that banners could have been used during that run, but then again, I never claimed it was the “perfect” run. I just pointed out in a funny way that warriors using signet builds are not totally useless, and can actually perform quite well…

…Of course, judging a player from a single run (or a single YouTube video completely unrelated to anything that has to do with combat), is not very fair…"

I actually have no clue how your mind twisted this into me claiming signet builds were superior Kevin. As a matter of fact, I acknowledged the need for versatility and supportive builds multiple times.

The fact is that you just seem to be desperately trying to find something / someone to bash on.

Then why is there even an argument? Not a single point did I say Signets are useless, I merely suggested there are better alternatives depending on situation. (Btw anything can be argued as effective given the situation)

You agree that Banner is superior in multiple situations, you even posted a video of a perfect example of such (CoF Path 1).

This is DIRECTLY against OP’s sweeping generalization that Banners are not worth his and his team’s time. So you are supporting the OP by disagreeing with him??

Then why is there even an argument?

Why did you, with literally no provocation at all, attack his use of signets? From the very first post, no less.

I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.

is not what someone that is curious about reasons or interested in different perspectives says. It’s what someone interested in starting kittenays. You saw a signet warrior and you couldn’t contain yourself, and attacked, simple as that.

Kierlak.5209:

is not what someone that is curious about reasons or interested in different perspectives says. It’s what someone interested in starting kittenays. You saw a signet warrior and you couldn’t contain yourself, and attacked, simple as that.

That is your interpretation. Would you take same offense to the person that mentioned this guy died 2200 times? Would it help if I add some emoticon to that statement? The line is drawn by you on what is offensive, do not project that as my intention.

Edit: Opps, misclick.

Kierlak.5209:

Then why is there even an argument?

Why did you, with literally no provocation at all, attack his use of signets? From the very first post, no less.

Yeah I eventually stopped bothering to respond when I discovered the history of troll posts and arguements in other threads. Seen plenty of people in games who feel the want to be praised because of their so called superior knowledge and skill and anything that doesn’t abide by it must be bad or inferior, and I see it here. Don’t care for spending my effort on the type of person, one who is unable to understand others builds may be as good or better (and yes potential to be worse) than their own for what they are trying to accomplish, who they play with, their playstyle, and their level of skill. I don’t believe my build is inferior to any others for the way I want to play, you are welcome to disagree, but at least have the courtesy to do it constructively. However I never let my desired style of play known in my original post so I don’t know on what grounds I gave anyone anything to even disagree on. Instead from the very first response, onwards seems I’ve read nothing but snide condescending posts, which I dont enjoy being involved in.

Those who know me, know I like a dangerous, challenging, all-or-nothing playstyle. Not going into further detail about myself or my friends unless its with people I find it constructive or enjoyable doing so.

I made this thread with the intention to provide some fun, comedy and amusement at my own expense. Needless to say I was extremely saddened when I happened to log back in and see the first response I had.

Let me try again, maybe I’ll keep it civil this time and not kinder the “law”.
(how do you quote someone on this forum… nvm)

Kevin:
I am sorry that you felt the need to defend one of your dungeon buddy while skipping majority of the posts.
yes, I read your first post and skipped to the reply button that is on the top of the page.

Kevin:
Would you find more value in the standard “Haha, that sucks you lost 1600 tokens” response instead? The point of my posts are to suggest what I believe in a be superior alternative, I provided reasoning and sources to back up my claims. I understand some people might not like being told such, but I’d rather getting this idea across than not saying anything at all.
You are dictating. You say it best when you say nothing at all

Kevin:
My signature is based on a hilarious response made by another poster on these forums. I find it funny and I wish to share it with other people.
It made my day, thank you for sharing.

Kevin:
Further, I am a troll because I engage in everything except witty remarks? because that is my only trait which coincidentally is both “common” and “un-used by many”? I would becareful about throwing such slanderous remarks around simply because you disagree with my ideas.
You disagreed with the OP’s build, which he wasn’t trying to showcase here. You started posting about something that is not relevant to this topic. If you want to be superior – PM him your good will; or are you just another guy for spectator sports?

You are mocking someone’s creative way of playing the game. If you truly believe the signet build is bad – then preach the developers, educate them and have the inferior skills removed…

tl;dr
You posted ~!#$% about some irrelevant ~!#$% and ruined the post for the OP and for every other individual who read it. good job ~!@#$% ^&*().

Kevin:
Zorro.
Z

I’m not sure, the forums seem to bug. The “Quote” button should be at the bottom of the post of the person you want to reply quote, along with 2 other buttons “Report” and “Permalink”. But half the time it doesn’t show, after a few refreshes it seems to pop up again but >.>