How to prevent long stun from Subject Alpha?

How to prevent long stun from Subject Alpha?

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Posted by: Miaire.5468

Miaire.5468

How do you prevent getting all your skills on cooldown when fighting Subject Alpha? I read somewhere before that it has something to do with the timing of breaking the crystals but I can’t remember.

Besides killing fast, is there anything (as a skill from any class, or actions) I can do to prevent it from happening to myself/my group? Or if not prevention, are there actions I can do to recover or help others recover from it if they don’t know how to themselves.

Thanks!

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

Tom Yzf.5872

The stun bug happens when you kill the crystal too fast. You can prevent this by applying party-wide stability before he gets in LOS. A popular choice is guardian’s “Hallowed Ground.”
If you’re quick enough you can also evade it. The animation is quick though.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

Make sure stability is applied before the crystal is placed. Hallowed ground and Syg will work. Pug guardians don’t usually do this so you may need to bring your own personal stability.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

If you’re quick enough you can also evade it. The animation is quick though.

You can’t evade it. Only skills that “evade” it are ones that make you invulnerable, dodging however does not.

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

Tom Yzf.5872

If you’re quick enough you can also evade it. The animation is quick though.

You can’t evade it. Only skills that “evade” it are ones that make you invulnerable, dodging however does not.

You are the CoE hermit, so I concede to your judgement, but I know for a fact that I’ve caught evasion frames while he did the crystal tells. This was w/o stability or invuln. I have however been caught mid dodge, but I’ve attributed that to me dodging too late.

I don’t suppose you have any vids of failed crystal dodges?

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frifox.5283

No videos, just experience. Getting bugged through Blurred Frenzy (evade) is the most common. I’ll see if I can catch it on video next time I run coe and get unlucky to get caught.

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Posted by: Miaire.5468

Miaire.5468

Thanks for the responses.

I often PUG CoE as Guardian but I enjoy leaping the gate while waiting for the NPC. I find it easier to do on Warrior because I can’t seem to aim Guardian leap right.

When I fight Subject Alpha, I usually just bring the fire field consecrations for (potential) might stacking. Next time, I’ll be sure to maintain stability during the fight by saving Hallowed Ground for the actual fight and having Stand Your Ground to continue stability for longer fights.

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

FenrirSlakt.3692

You can blink/shadowstep out of it. Yes?

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

You can blink/shadowstep out of it. Yes?

It’s vague, but I would say yes, back when mesmer Sword was good, I could escape the crystal by swaping out of it.

Snow Crows [SC]

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Yes you can teleport out, as long as your teleport end point is not inside the crystal. Aka, don’t steal to alpha unless he’s actually nowhere near your crystal. Tendrils make nice steal targets.

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Posted by: Sorin.4310

Sorin.4310

If you’re quick enough you can also evade it. The animation is quick though.

You can’t evade it. Only skills that “evade” it are ones that make you invulnerable, dodging however does not.

this is my experience as well, because I routinely get the bug while FGS skill #3. It’s frustrating as hell on something like an ele where a single missed dodge while bugged is rip.

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frifox.5283

Crystal vs. dodge:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-ONffN6N8

tl;dv: nope, can’t dodge it.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

It’s vague, but I would say yes, back when mesmer Sword was good, I could escape the crystal by swaping out of it.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait.

I haven’t played my mes in a while, but what happened to mes sword? Is sw/sw + sw/f not meta anymore? What could they have possibly done to make BF not worth it? O.o

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Sword 3 leap.

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

I think crystal dodge only works if you do it before the tell, once he jumps you’re already frozen. One of those dumb animation mismatches.

Also trying to teleport out of the crystal usually bugs it for me.

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Posted by: Tom Yzf.5872

Tom Yzf.5872

Crystal vs. dodge:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-ONffN6N8

tl;dv: nope, can’t dodge it.

ty frifox, nice vid

I think crystal dodge only works if you do it before the tell, once he jumps you’re already frozen. One of those dumb animation mismatches.

Also trying to teleport out of the crystal usually bugs it for me.

I’m thinking this might be the case as well. I’ll have to pay closer attention if I manage to evade it again.