Is it too late to get into Fractals?

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Posted by: Tozen.9814

Tozen.9814

I took a huge break from the game and just came back. With the way Fractcal levels scale, is there any chance that I’ll get to play the content seeing as I’m starting at zero? Will I need to grind my way up ranks before PUGs accept me or is there something you would suggest?

Not a “QQ” post… I’m just curious! Thanks for your help.

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

maxinion.8396

Find a dungeon guild, and they’ll help you level. Or, just look for pugs at low levels. Start at 9, do that till you hit 10, then do 19, etc. I started doing them about a month ago, with no real problems.

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Posted by: Matisse.9356

Matisse.9356

Just to some more runs than necessary in tier 0 and avoid speedrun groups and you’ll be fine. You’ll probably get some heat if you are a beginner, but that is actually mostly from other beginners poorly trying to cover their inexperience. Good players explain, bad players kitten.

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Posted by: jessiejay.3625

jessiejay.3625

Pro-tip, gear up you char, gain necessary Agony Resist and piggyback off people who do the daily lower tiers.

I.E. 5-10AR, run level 10’s till your Personal Reward is 10. (Some say they manage with no AR by dodging)

Gain more Ascended pieces and buy more +5AR from fractals golem NPC for 75 relics.

Once i think 20AR (dont quote me on that i cant verify on phone), piggyback of people doing level 20 until personal reward 21.

You get the point. People more often run the 10, 20, 30, 40, 49 on a daily basis. If you understand the tactics, are a team player, know fractals well, you can follow the method above and max level in maybe 2 months if doing a couple runs a day.

Catch is how you obtain ascended pieces will gate your progress. Teams might boot you if you degen from agony too fast.

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Posted by: jessiejay.3625

jessiejay.3625

Forgot to add, it will never be late to start fractals. No extravagant rewards are present and it wont be any time soon they will correct said rewards that they promised.

Be aware drop rates of ascended boxes and fractal skins are less. Still waiting for the fractal weapon skin box that lets us choose. Ill give them credit for atleast making it not require a transmutation

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

Pro-tip, gear up you char, gain necessary Agony Resist and piggyback off people who do the daily lower tiers.

I.E. 5-10AR, run level 10’s till your Personal Reward is 10. (Some say they manage with no AR by dodging)

Gain more Ascended pieces and buy more +5AR from fractals golem NPC for 75 relics.

Once i think 20AR (dont quote me on that i cant verify on phone), piggyback of people doing level 20 until personal reward 21.

You get the point. People more often run the 10, 20, 30, 40, 49 on a daily basis. If you understand the tactics, are a team player, know fractals well, you can follow the method above and max level in maybe 2 months if doing a couple runs a day.

Catch is how you obtain ascended pieces will gate your progress. Teams might boot you if you degen from agony too fast.

You dont need 20 AR for lvl 20 i was doing it with 10 on my necromancer. Point dear is that if you dont have enought AR you need a mechanic to compensate for it here are 3 exemple

1. be a super healing machine that can self heal a full life bar when hit by agony (unrecommanded)
2. play a necro and use life force to temper and reduce the agony damage (yea lifeforce can do that for you)
3. dodge like a god and pray you dont get hit by agony or run a meditation guardian and overheal it, while having 10 agony resist at lvl 20 will prevent agony from behing lethal it still will hit you for the good half of your health bar. Most team wont care about how much agony damage you take long as you actualy dont fall constantly from it.

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

You dont need 20 AR for lvl 20 i was doing it with 10 on my necromancer. Point dear is that if you dont have enought AR you need a mechanic to compensate for it here are 3 exemple

1. be a super healing machine that can self heal a full life bar when hit by agony (unrecommanded)
2. play a necro and use life force to temper and reduce the agony damage (yea lifeforce can do that for you)
3. dodge like a god and pray you dont get hit by agony or run a meditation guardian and overheal it, while having 10 agony resist at lvl 20 will prevent agony from behing lethal it still will hit you for the good half of your health bar. Most team wont care about how much agony damage you take long as you actualy dont fall constantly from it.

This is some clearly bad advice. One should always try to meet the requirements. Imagine if he doesn’t dodge the other agony attacks : he’ll always be at low health and will ultimately die from agony.

OP, I’d advise you to do what has been said : meet the requirements by grinding and doing fractals in your tier only. I did it with pugs and it worked quite well : I’m now at 35 AR and on pr 30.

As for the needed AR, you can check this : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Agony_Resistance

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

of course if you have to much difficulty dodging you better have good AR. Ive been running lvl 25s with 15 agony resist however as necromancer and it worked quite fine. Once you actualy can dodge right only mossman and maw can actualy kill you from agony and thats realy if you unlucky (mossman dagger toss isnt enought of a tell and you just cant dodge maw agony to begin with but your realy likely to survive it anyway)

Lesson is dont do something if you dont think your ready for it and if you are then maybe you can actualy dare.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Rule 1 of forums. Don’t listen to kyubi.

He’s just a troll that has no clue how to be useful to the party and promotes using bad builds.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

The majority of players are unable to dodge to avoid agony attacks. You can kitten your way through 20+ fractals until you get the dredge boss or any of the boss fractals. The dredge boss requires two dodges at the proper time to avoid agony and can easily down someone without AR. I’ve been in groups with people who do not have AR and it’s such a hassle to keeping reviving them.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

Do you play for fun or do you play for profits taku? I feel like having fun every now and then because 1 its a game 2 money is just accessory when you already got everything you want +low level fractals just arent worth running meta in as you wont get a party decent enought to actualy match the needs of the build, most meta build are made to be runned under optimal conditions with premade party and you wont find that in fractals until about lvl 30. If you run fractals especialy at low lvl dont bother using a meta if you cant play it right it will only make your life harder then it should be run something your sure you can nail down perfectly. Ive seen thousand of poor sods running meta when they shouldnt and making runs impossible because they constantly die at the beginning of fight because they either suck at dodging or just do it wrong. Start by running what you can actualy run effectively in lower dungeons then work on running the meta once you got everything well nailed down.

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

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Do you play for fun or do you play for profits taku? I feel like having fun every now and then because 1 its a game 2 money is just accessory when you already got everything you want +low level fractals just arent worth running meta in as you wont get a party decent enought to actualy match the needs of the build, most meta build are made to be runned under optimal conditions with premade party and you wont find that in fractals until about lvl 30. If you run fractals especialy at low lvl dont bother using a meta if you cant play it right it will only make your life harder then it should be run something your sure you can nail down perfectly. Ive seen thousand of poor sods running meta when they shouldnt and making runs impossible because they constantly die at the beginning of fight because they either suck at dodging or just do it wrong. Start by running what you can actualy run effectively in lower dungeons then work on running the meta once you got everything well nailed down.

They’re not talking about the meta even, come on. They’re just saying the very reasonable thing: “make sure you have enough AR, otherwise you will have a hard time.” Yes, if you’re l33t you can get through it (I know folks who did 35 with 0 AR), but you’ll still down from the unavoidable agony at the boss stages. For a newbie, like OP, it is solid advice to just make sure you get enough AR.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

As said start by running what you can actualy run. If you cant dodge just get the required AR (by the time i reached lvl 20 i had more then overdone the place out from behing forced to constantly redo old level because at that time you sometime ned to redo old lvl to get new ones done so i was able to prety much dodge all boss moves). If its like your 8th character running it and you dodge agony like a pro then you can relax a little more on gear otherwise do get all the resistance you can get.

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Posted by: NeoVaris.4806

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Low level fractals just arent worth running meta in as you wont get a party decent enought to actualy match the needs of the build, most meta build are made to be runned under optimal conditions with premade party and you wont find that in fractals until about lvl 30. If you run fractals especialy at low lvl dont bother using a meta if you cant play it right it will only make your life harder then it should be run something your sure you can nail down perfectly.

Uhm it’s actually better to run meta on low levels since you have more room for error (as they do not hit as hard). you make a greater contribution to the team with offensive buffs to speed it up. Sure you can any build you like, but you wouldn’t really want to spend the same time in a Fractals level 10 as you would for a Fractals level 49 by running a sub-optimal build. Even if you start playing the meta build, low level Fractals is a great place to start.

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

There’s many people in the same boat as you and we all gotta start somewhere. I was pretty into FotM when I started doing it (over summer break last year, was doing multiple levels a day to increase personal reward level) since it is pretty challenging in terms of PvE content and more refreshing with the random elements.

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Posted by: Sarahfull.4930

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I took a huge break from the game and just came back. With the way Fractcal levels scale, is there any chance that I’ll get to play the content seeing as I’m starting at zero? Will I need to grind my way up ranks before PUGs accept me or is there something you would suggest?

Not a “QQ” post… I’m just curious! Thanks for your help.

Im working hard in guildwars trying to become a fractal teacher. It is never too later to start fractals and I would be more than happy to show yoi the ropes. The biggest barrier that we could have is that Im on a north america server so I cant help our lovely EU players :’(

Feel free to contact me in game and Ill get a group together

Sarah

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Posted by: Sarahfull.4930

Sarahfull.4930

I took a huge break from the game and just came back. With the way Fractcal levels scale, is there any chance that I’ll get to play the content seeing as I’m starting at zero? Will I need to grind my way up ranks before PUGs accept me or is there something you would suggest?

Not a “QQ” post… I’m just curious! Thanks for your help.

Im working hard in guildwars trying to become a fractal teacher. It is never too later to start fractals and I would be more than happy to show you the ropes. The biggest barrier that we could have is that Im on a north america server so I cant help our lovely EU players :’(

Feel free to contact me and Ill get a group together

Sarah

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Posted by: ODB.6891

ODB.6891

As everyone else has said so far, its never too late to start fractals. My main contribution is to advise you to be a positive asset to your group. Don’t run a selfish build or an ineffective build. Selfish builds are ones where you build only to make sure you don’t die…and just toss effective/efficient group contribution to the way side. Selfish builds make fractals take forever and make the run a real chore for everyone involved.

Make sure you have enough AR for the fractal level you are in.

Gear/trait to actually be able to make a decent contribution to killing stuff…which is what actually completes fractals.

Adjust your utilities/weapon as fits the current encounter as needed.

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Posted by: crosknight.3041

crosknight.3041

honestly with pugs i’d stick with lvl 1-9, to many pricks at any level higher (unless you get lucky)