Jade Maw 40+

Jade Maw 40+

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Posted by: Trollhammer.7439

Trollhammer.7439

So… how exactly is this supposed to work? Did ANet actually intend people to wipe 3 times over and get ranger to pet rez them? I have a bit of a trouble accepting that.
My guess this is sort of reserved area until more infusable gear comes out, but that also seems pretty lame…

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Posted by: Errant Venture.9371

Errant Venture.9371

So… how exactly is this supposed to work? Did ANet actually intend people to wipe 3 times over and get ranger to pet rez them? I have a bit of a trouble accepting that.
My guess this is sort of reserved area until more infusable gear comes out, but that also seems pretty lame…

Basically that. For now it’s doable with rez orbs. You just have to think of it as people doing content ahead of schedule.

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

Considering that more Ascended gear (hence more Infusion slots) will be introduced in future, I consider it a case of just going too far ahead for the time being.

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Posted by: Stridix.4260

Stridix.4260

Well sylvari might have an easier time cuz if they are downed and agony still hits they can mist and avoid the agony.
But the if they get the skull…well…

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

if something new dropped in 40+ then it would be worth reaching but as of now, why??? You want challenge? pug lev30 24/7.

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.

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Posted by: Errant Venture.9371

Errant Venture.9371

Right but you have to use 2x rez orbs during the jade maw which makes the runs very expensive.

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Posted by: Xenth.2408

Xenth.2408

How much % health total do you drop from the agony? 160%, 240%? I assume you’re labelling it as impossible because of full agony wipes?

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Posted by: Trollhammer.7439

Trollhammer.7439

How much % health total do you drop from the agony? 160%, 240%? I assume you’re labelling it as impossible because of full agony wipes?

I am curious as to where did you actually see the word “impossible”. Or you just talking to yourself? Well, since you clearly have not a slightness clue what I am talking about, I shall elaborate.

On Jade Maw lvl40+ the agony phase is a guaranteed wipe. You can’t outheal it. Doesn’t matter how low your HP pool is and how strong your heals are. It just drops people with 30AR in 3 ticks.
Other things you should know about agony phase.

  1. Unlike regular agony applied by other bosses it ignores all invulnerability skills.
  2. It doesn’t end with wipe. Agony is reapplied back on you after you reenter the island with Jade Maw on it.

So there is literally NO way to avoid complete wipe at least once on each agony phase.

There are two ways (that I know of) to complete this:

  1. Ranger can rez people with Search And Rescue from a safe distance (agony is not applied to pet)
  2. Someone has to use rez orb

Neither of those are particularly inspiring options. First one is relying on a bug, and second one is clearly broken boss encounter mechanic.

Given that, it seems the only conclusion is that level 40 and beyond dailies are not meant to be completed with current possible max AR. That also seemed pretty lame to me, so I created this topic hoping that perhaps there is some other strategy people have found to complete this legitimately.

(edited by Trollhammer.7439)

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Posted by: Lorana.2468

Lorana.2468

this is one of those things where Anet didnt expect people to level up so quickly.

you can either just leave fractals at level 40 or revive orb your way through jade maw and take advantage of a somewhat early lead over other people when more AR is added to the game and specific rewards for higher levels are added.

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Posted by: Nebula.9017

Nebula.9017

How much % health total do you drop from the agony? 160%, 240%? I assume you’re labelling it as impossible because of full agony wipes?

I am curious as to where did you actually see the word “impossible”. Or you just talking to yourself? Well, since you clearly have not a slightness clue what I am talking about, I shall elaborate.

On Jade Maw lvl40+ the agony phase is a guaranteed wipe. You can’t outheal it. Doesn’t matter how low your HP pool is and how strong your heals are. It just drops people with 30AR in 3 ticks.
Other things you should know about agony phase.

  1. Unlike regular agony applied by other bosses it ignores all invulnerability skills.
  2. It doesn’t end with wipe. Agony is reapplied back on you after you reenter the island with Jade Maw on it.

So there is literally NO way to avoid complete wipe at least once on each agony phase.

There are two ways (that I know of) to complete this:

  1. Ranger can rez people with Search And Rescue from a safe distance (agony is not applied to pet)
  2. Someone has to use rez orb

Neither of those are particularly inspiring options. First one is relying on a bug, and second one is clearly broken boss encounter mechanic.

Given that, it seems the only conclusion is that level 40 and beyond dailies are not meant to be completed with current possible max AR. That also seemed pretty lame to me, so I created this topic hoping that perhaps there is some other strategy people have found to complete this legitimately.

You very much can survive Tier 5 agony in Maw (40-49). Either with good timing and 2 guardians with their elite skill, or with warrior rez banners. After everyone dies, you run to the edge. Have 1 person with a high-healing spell jump down (maybe have someone like a thief drop down an AoE heal as well) , heal themselves, and as soon as they go down, a warrior should drop down the banner (needs to be well-timed, start casting prior to them downing). After this everyone jumps down and starts healing the downed person. At the end, everyone should be dead, and the first downed person should now be downed, but still alive. It needs to be well-timed, but very much doable. This cannot be done 50+though, as you go down in 2 ticks (1 for down state, and another to finish you off completely).

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Posted by: Xenth.2408

Xenth.2408

I had multiple threads up at the same time, and misread the title. Sorry about the “impossible” question. I’m still curious what percentage of health each tick of agony hits for. I guess I’ll just get there and find out.