Guild Wars 2

How can new players join the raid grind if they can’t even enter one for training? I have like 4months since i am playing this game and i did almost everything except Raids. With 7328 achievement points, diamond in season3, over 100rank in wvw and grinding every day the same fractals, dungeons and meta events now i want to try doing raids. But as i mentioned first newcomers are blocked out from raids becuase of the people in lfg that asks you to have 50+legendary insights, tonic, minis, Boss killproof, MULTI-CLASS, full ascended, restricted builds. LFG is full of commanaders like this, except times when i see the ones that are selling raids for 300gold or so and some times TRAINING. Today i joined an escort squad for wing 3 and comm didn’t care about asking LI or nothing else, we failed 2 times becuase the 2group incare for the cave failed but at 3th attempt we killed the boss and i got my first legendary insight, the problem is i need to make 49+ to play with the ‘’EXPERT squad’’. Best raiding experience i have ever done in a game so far. Oh the irony!

Or you could create your own LFG to include all players.

Create a squad.

LFM VG training run. Bam, genius.

And it seems you beat escort without a LI requirement. So instead you could do:

LFM VG.

Or, just join a guild.

The best investment i made in this game is to buy myself a comm tag. I just create my own groups and dont give a kitten about anything. U should do the same and save yourself the trouble of finding a group.

That’s a the best way until u start racking up LI’s and u can join groups with ease.

Seriously, this again? Make your own group. Also, I’ve never seen more than a few groups requiring those high qualifications. Instead of trying to join the ones that request experience try joining actual learning runs.

Seriously, he will never pass even 1st boss in any wing with training group. Just waste of time.

I hope OP doesn’t take the venom in the replies personally.
I understand the frustrations, this is a very common complaint.

@OP, All I can suggest is have a few classes geared out, get to know what is roughly considered meta for runes/sigils. & read up on the encounters a bit, then try to figure out your role within a raid.
It is hard finding a group willing to take a noob through, especially on their first (sometimes only) run of a wing of the week. Keep in mind raids require you to pay attention much more than fotm or dungeons, and this ( along with knowing the mechanics) is where most people trip over at first.

unfortunately a lot of pugs try far to hard to run speed-clear style groups, rather than optimise for an easy kill.

I don’t know what time you’d be looking to raid so there isn’t much point me offering to help you with a group slot when we’re looking to fill out.

Feel free to drop me a pm here or in game if you’d like any help with getting ready for raiding.

edit/ps: Don’t think of raids as a grind. They aren’t really for gear progression like some other games. If you raid, do it because you enjoy the involved nature of the content.

@Verthurnax There’s tons and tons of training + raid hub guilds out there for people like yourself. Go look for them instead of complaining because you haven’t even tried to make a group yet.

Artemis Thuras.8795:

I hope OP doesn’t take the venom in the replies personally.
I understand the frustrations, this is a very common complaint.

@OP, All I can suggest is have a few classes geared out, get to know what is roughly considered meta for runes/sigils. & read up on the encounters a bit, then try to figure out your role within a raid.
It is hard finding a group willing to take a noob through, especially on their first (sometimes only) run of a wing of the week. Keep in mind raids require you to pay attention much more than fotm or dungeons, and this ( along with knowing the mechanics) is where most people trip over at first.

unfortunately a lot of pugs try far to hard to run speed-clear style groups, rather than optimise for an easy kill.

I don’t know what time you’d be looking to raid so there isn’t much point me offering to help you with a group slot when we’re looking to fill out.

Feel free to drop me a pm here or in game if you’d like any help with getting ready for raiding.

edit/ps: Don’t think of raids as a grind. They aren’t really for gear progression like some other games. If you raid, do it because you enjoy the involved nature of the content.

Well thanks for the comment and i would really appreaciate some help to get into raids . I have a pve guild that does raids every saturday night, but they never killed the first boss vg or sloth, i tried the training group from lfg but they can’t even get to kill the first mini bosses in spirit vale, more of a time i was the one getting the lead since nowen had any info about it . Now i made a tempest full ascended with schollar runes, but what use it has if i cant find a group at all or at least to kill a single boss. I really don’t care about grinding raids, but important stuff is gated out from me and it doesn’t feel fair.

Verthurnax.2784:

Artemis Thuras.8795:

I hope OP doesn’t take the venom in the replies personally.
I understand the frustrations, this is a very common complaint.

@OP, All I can suggest is have a few classes geared out, get to know what is roughly considered meta for runes/sigils. & read up on the encounters a bit, then try to figure out your role within a raid.
It is hard finding a group willing to take a noob through, especially on their first (sometimes only) run of a wing of the week. Keep in mind raids require you to pay attention much more than fotm or dungeons, and this ( along with knowing the mechanics) is where most people trip over at first.

unfortunately a lot of pugs try far to hard to run speed-clear style groups, rather than optimise for an easy kill.

I don’t know what time you’d be looking to raid so there isn’t much point me offering to help you with a group slot when we’re looking to fill out.

Feel free to drop me a pm here or in game if you’d like any help with getting ready for raiding.

edit/ps: Don’t think of raids as a grind. They aren’t really for gear progression like some other games. If you raid, do it because you enjoy the involved nature of the content.

Well thanks for the comment and i would really appreaciate some help to get into raids . I have a pve guild that does raids every saturday night, but they never killed the first boss vg or sloth, i tried the training group from lfg but they can’t even get to kill the first mini bosses in spirit vale, more of a time i was the one getting the lead since nowen had any info about it . Now i made a tempest full ascended with schollar runes, but what use it has if i cant find a group at all or at least to kill a single boss. I really don’t care about grinding raids, but important stuff is gated out from me and it doesn’t feel fair.

You’re not the first, and won’t be the last person I’ve heard the exact same complaint from.

In previous instances, there has been issues with players being too stubborn to change builds, gear or playstyle. People who also suffer from the thing i mentioned previously: not expecting to have to pay attention like other aspects of the game.

There is also issues with people often gear up to optimise open world ( on the cheap usually..) and the choices often don’t work in instances at all.
It’s easy to get information overload when someone tries to explain a raid too. Best thing is to learn 1 role at a time, and then the picture builds up like a jigsaw puzzle. You’re in a group that is having to learn every role, and its not easy.

The great thing about LFGs is that you can create your own with your own requirements.

Chaos.5072:

The great thing about LFGs is that you can create your own with your own requirements.

Perhaps you would consider adding to this thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Advice-for-those-Trying-to-form-raid-groups/first#post6250278