Guild Wars 2

Defending magg is rediculous, too many mobs that hit WAYY too hard, and he goes WAYYYYY too slow. gg

Just go in one by one till about 88% or so then all go in this’ll just add 5 more mins to the farming cycle. I

My team couldn’t even get Magg to cross the lava properly! All he does is die as soon as we start to cross.. How are you supposed to bring Magg all the way across all those fire and mobs??

That happened with our group too, some fool lead him up a hill then got em bugged just send more players across till he moves

Got him across the lava but it was buggy beyond belief. It now looks like they have slowed down Magg’s defend timer in the Ritual Chamber making the existing kiting strategy nigh on impossible.

We almost got to 90 percent once doing it one by one. That section is almost impossible now and requires sheer luck. Knee jerk reaction to slow down Exotic acquisition. Yeah sure make it harder but this is just a kick in the face.

Also to get Magg across you all just grab a kit and rush across putting out fires.

My group was on mubble n we had a pretty good mix of classes so yeah probly more to do with luck then anything else

I’ts really unbelievable, they aoe us for 12k, aoe ranged atttack for 12k!

Once players properly adabt going in single file it’ll probly get “quick fixed” again

Has anyone considered actually getting a group to fight the mobs while defending mobs? Just like all the other explorables, you will need to think about group composition and synergizing well with other plays rather than bringing 4 random people by yelling LF4M COF EXPLORE" in front of the entrance. And yes i had done it after patch as a support guardian and had illusion mesmer with group as well. Focus fire the harder hitting mobs and the others will go down with gradual aoe if the numbers become too overwhelming.

Are you talking Story or Explorable? And if explorable which path are you talking about?

was in CoF just then, Magg died in one of the flames and we wiped, he was stuck dead in the middle of the flames and we could not access the water gun thingo’s or res him …f’ing bs

Only conceivable way of protecting Magg now is AoE spamming the waves.

Too bad they spawn faster than you’d be able to kill without Legendaries.

So how do you gear up when you can’t run on the gear treadmill? Massive mistake. CoF explorable was easy but it had enough challenge to necessitate skill. Now it’s just AC v2 and very unfun for most groups not already geared.

to be honest COF is way more fun now. It’s a challenge now but still doable.

lol man, cof.. i was talking to my party. yes it can be done. maybe 10% of even less of the population. well balanced party and good gear then yes. but for the rest of the population… nope, doubt it. making dungeons fun and challenging.. they got the challenging right.. its nearly almost impossible… i dont see any fun in corpse rezing trying to win. i really dont see how a pickup party do this.. let me correct myself, a typical pickup party. Maybe they made the other options easier??

It’s bad ‘cause it’s making you think again to solve the best way to get through it. And if you are complaining about magg, just wait till you get to the Ritual.

@darksolid, I don’t see how you will find this fun after about 10 run’s…….

ArenaNET is starting to turn into Blizzard with these stupid and obnoxious nerf’s. What goes through their mind’s when they nerf something like this so hard? It’s truly not even fun, not it’s not even worth it to grind for CoF armor..

They nerf their only power leveling ability (CM) so now if you want to have every profession you got to grind and clear the same exact map zones to level up (which isn’t fun at about the 2-3 char) and they nerfed probably the only fun end game content for PvE.

Oh god, boss got buffed? Well I mean, I thought Gaheron was actually supposed to hurt though – that’s deserved,

but something tells me I’d be severely disappointed.

Ugh. Difficulty spike/reward shaft. Well, guess I’m never doing dungeons again then.

I’m sorry did they change anything about the lava pool yesterday night??? I did CoF yesterday on explorable mode (for the first time) and we didn’t have a wipe choosing the 2nd path…

The water gun thing was easy, easy,easy… we just kept in a block 2 with water guns keep putting out fires and advancing and thats it.

Everything in there is easy actually. Now CoE is another story. :W

After the 20th attempt we finally protected him. Just went in 1 at a time getting 2 shot until he was done….rediculous… IMO it should be a dps race to kill the adds, and if your too slow, it spawns even more, and so on and so forth.

I agree that Gaheron needed to be buffed. As in he needs to do damage during the fight because that was broken. that i understand. Unless they made him 1shotting the “tank” agroer. but that is IF you can get to him.. ya that kaboomium is not for the rock. its a phrase for you repair bill and armor.

Yeah, this just reeks of bad design change here. I’m in vote of a rollback.

Maybe its more fun for the people who want a really challenging dungeon but those types of players are less than 1% of the entire player base. Those who just started to gear up or collect the charr carvings in the dungeon with out the top end gear yet via crafting are most probably stuck. Sure they could have nerfed the 26s down to 15s per run and EXP but making the dungeon this hard is a huge blow to the players. I understand that this will force some players to buy gems as an alternative method to gain gold but this is just a new from Anet!

The lava pool bit is just super buggy now.

26s down to 15s per completion..and add up all the repair costs for dying about 5 times at the ritual thing alone…hmm, I’m seeing MAYBE a 5-6s profit now..Lmfao. D3 nerfs all over again, ruin the fun.

Pandemonium.6453:

Maybe its more fun for the people who want a really challenging dungeon but those types of players are less than 1% of the entire player base. Those who just started to gear up or collect the charr carvings in the dungeon with out the top end gear yet via crafting are most probably stuck. Sure they could have nerfed the 26s down to 15s per run and EXP but making the dungeon this hard is a huge blow to the players. I understand that this will force some players to buy gems as an alternative method to gain gold but this is just a new from Anet!

I just wish we had numbers on what percentage of the fanbase was running explorables. And I would also bet everything on my account that this change will alienate more individuals from the ‘joy’ of dungeoning.

As soon as I am done with my 500 AC tokens for Sunrise, I personally wont be running any more of these pathetic time/money sinks.

A friend of mine who just tried CM for the first time after hitting 45 with his character told me that I ‘fooled’ him about CM being quite easy and rewarding. So yeah its gonna alienate the casual gamers from the really really hardcore.

Personally I welcome the increased difficulty, I dare say bring it! but nerfing the rewards is just plainkitten If they are nerfing the rewards then they should also reduce the tokens required to purchase those instanced based gear. Its pretty unfair for those who just started collecting the tokens and they hit this brick wall

What a shame. Magg CoF was the most fun instance out there. I feel like a lot of these dungeons would be pretty entertaining and easy to get groups for if they were around the same difficulty as Magg’s path pre-buff. Something to break up the usual same-y events out in the world where you can grab pretty much any 4 people you want as long as they aren’t complete idiots.

Now it’s back to never finding groups for anything, because you can’t do it with pugs and you’ll almost never get enough people you know together that actually want to slog through a bunch of deaths and frustration for a miniscule bit of progress towards some dungeon gear. I’m in a guild that’s capped out in members and still it’s impossible to find people who want to do this stuff. I bet there are some really neat things that a lot of work was put into in a lot of these dungeon paths. Stuff that’s a lot cooler than “defend this circle against 800 centaurs”. Shame almost nobody will ever see it, and will instead be stuck breaking the morale of more centaurs and risen.

Magg CoF was what the other dungeons -should’ve- been like. If they were anywhere near as fun, profitable, and what’s more around that difficulty, you’d see people going elsewhere.

It was -fun-. There -was- challenge for most groups. Dozens of wipes, in fact.

But now it’s just pointless -and- unfun.

Its really sad that they would push a rushed hotfix in like this to the only thing holding this game together. They have bugs EVERYWHERE in zones and they choose to target the explorable dungeons? If you didn’t want groups skipping the events then lessen the amount of mobs that spawn and don’t allow them to de-spawn when the event is over…..the monstrosity that you just pushed live is one step closer to a Korean grind-fest which I did not pay $60 to have.

Bugs everywhere in dungeons too and they just made cof more buggy.

Germs.4125:

the monstrosity that you just pushed live is one step closer to a Korean grind-fest which I did not pay $60 to have.

To be honest, speedruns and farming specific dungeons and branches seems more of a grind-fest. Yes, I also feel that a viable way to gain gold has been cut off. But trying to think on a larger scale, there’s a huge world and there’s a lot to do. Spending an evening redoing the same thing is the grindfest.

This needs to be rolled back immediately. IF you want to make it so people can not just run through the lava room, or kite the mobs on the bomb event. Fine. But tune it accordingly. Make the bomb arm progress not advance until you kill a wave of mobs. When you clear a wave, Spawn more and let the bar progress. The current implementation is not how you should handle your game. There are ways to pose a challenge without completely breaking a dungeon. The fire room. Is bugged immensely. He dies in fire, and you can not res him because the fire continues to do damage while dead. And you can’t put it out because he is dead and can not give you a gun. These patches need to be tested before they are released. You have plenty of other world bugs to fix. The nerf to XP and silver, is completely unjustified. How do you expect the casual players, or the players that are not Trading post savvy to get gold for their legendaries, or other things? Please roll this back. and think about your decisions before doing this in the future.

Aireroth.7596:

Germs.4125:

the monstrosity that you just pushed live is one step closer to a Korean grind-fest which I did not pay $60 to have.

To be honest, speedruns and farming specific dungeons and branches seems more of a grind-fest. Yes, I also feel that a viable way to gain gold has been cut off. But trying to think on a larger scale, there’s a huge world and there’s a lot to do. Spending an evening redoing the same thing is the grindfest.

So you are telling me if I want this fire gear set…its more of a grind fest to get it over with in 15 min runs with little to no deaths and a bonus amount of income for the time spent in the instance, than a much longer run with no reward at the end and many deaths? No it isn’t. I’m not asking to make it easier to get the gear, it already take a long time and many hours of running the same repetitive stuff, but at least I was rewarded for my time spent in the way of gold and items. Now you just throw bodies at it and cross your fingers. This isn’t a game where players are ranked against each other…or even guilds for that matter so ArenaNet trying to curb the player base’s playstyle to how they feel we should be playing is step one to a population decline. Now add that to the fact that most endgame world events require a lot of bodies to be present and you have the makings of this games downfall.

Current difficulty is hard but not impossible.

Difficulty to reward ratio is TOTALLY KITTEN WRONG.

Why do you keep screwing things up so badly? Seriously the current reward is far too low regardless of dungeon difficulty. I can farm DE’s in Queensdale for more than I get doing an Explorable run.

Sure speed farming the dungeon was probably bad so you up the difficulty OR reduce the rewards not BOTH.

I hate to say it but you’re killing your own game and it makes me sick, I planned to be playing this game for the next 8+ years like GW1 but now I’d rather watch “The Notebook” (Soppy chick flick that bores me to tears and I can’t stand).

I will be putting in for a refund as you’ve gone against everything you’ve previously stated. No grind, rewarding content etc etc.

hello all, i have a question Guild Wars 2 is a WoW to have a good equipment we need to farm dungeons and raids? Unfortunately, the answer is yes. Why? Because we need to make dungeon 80 times to make full armor. Other cases the difficulty for example COF, this dungeon is now hard but we need the same number of tokens to do armor. I would like to dungeon was hard but armor can’t cost 1380 tokens. Fix it fast or i need to abandon this game just by grind dungeons. (sorry for my simple english)
edit. I think each part of armor should need to do 2-3 runs

artur.9562:

hello all, i have a question Guild Wars 2 is a WoW to have a good equipment we need to farm dungeons and raids? Unfortunately, the answer is yes. Why? Because we need to make dungeon 80 times to make full armor. Other cases the difficulty for example COF, this dungeon is now hard but we need the same number of tokens to do armor. I would like to dungeon was hard but armor can’t cost 1380 tokens. Fix it fast or i need to abandon this game just by grind dungeons. (sorry for my simple english)

No you dont have to farm dungeons, you can have the exotic max stats with Crafting, buying in AH, Karma, Mystic Forge, the Dungeons are mean to get rare skins, i alredy have 2 set by crafting.

I love how people who tell that CoF was the unique fun dungeon, no it isnt you think that is fun because is the only dungeon that you can farm fast, isnt fun, simple is easy and the people want easy things, if now CoF last 1 hour and Ascalonan Tombs last 15 minutes, AT woul be the favourite dungeon of people -_-.

Is true that they need improve the dungeon reward, but is funny how people want easy 20 minute dungeon run when is supossed to be the most diffcult thing to parties.

GonzoNeo.4965:

artur.9562:

hello all, i have a question Guild Wars 2 is a WoW to have a good equipment we need to farm dungeons and raids? Unfortunately, the answer is yes. Why? Because we need to make dungeon 80 times to make full armor. Other cases the difficulty for example COF, this dungeon is now hard but we need the same number of tokens to do armor. I would like to dungeon was hard but armor can’t cost 1380 tokens. Fix it fast or i need to abandon this game just by grind dungeons. (sorry for my simple english)

No you dont have to farm dungeons, you can have the exotic max stats with Crafting, buying in AH, Karma, Mystic Forge, the Dungeons are mean to get rare skins.

I love how people who tell that CoF was the unique fun dungeon, no it isnt you think that is fun because is the only dungeon that you can farm fast, isnt fun, simple is easy and the people want easy things, if now CoF last 1 hour and Ascalonan Tombs last 15 minutes, AT woul be the favourite dungeon of people -_-.

Is true that they need improve the dungeon reward, but is funny how people want easy 20 minute dungeon run when is supossed to be the most diffcult thing to parties.

This dungeon was buffed beyond belief. I do not mind at all, if the dungeon is made so it can not be rushed. But the mechanics need to be tuned so they are not overpowered. Or straight bugged. Please do not use your closed mind, and assume that everyone wants free gear. I don’t mind working for my gear. But overly tuned dungeons is not how you do it. That alienates most of their player base.

I only found out last night that you could get nice gear from doing dungeons, so i did some runs last night died a few times and thaught it was cool im going to grind and soon ill get the gear i want, now with the update ppl just give up and leave, realy bumbs me out now that i cant get the gear i want cos ppl leave due the difficulty and now it would take even longer to get the items i want “IF” we manage to complete the dungeon

GonzoNeo.4965:

No you dont have to farm dungeons, you can have the exotic max stats with Crafting, buying in AH, Karma, Mystic Forge, the Dungeons are mean to get rare skins, i alredy have 2 set by crafting.

I love how people who tell that CoF was the unique fun dungeon, no it isnt you think that is fun because is the only dungeon that you can farm fast, isnt fun, simple is easy and the people want easy things, if now CoF last 1 hour and Ascalonan Tombs last 15 minutes, AT woul be the favourite dungeon of people -_-.

Is true that they need improve the dungeon reward, but is funny how people want easy 20 minute dungeon run when is supossed to be the most diffcult thing to parties.

At 20 min clears of CoF it would take roughly 24 hours of running it to get the set that as you yourself just stated is the exact same stat-wise as the crafted gear. If this is the only reward from the dungeon then it should be a quick and painless run especially since it is already going to take so many hours for just a look. Making it a nightmare for the TOTAL player base to get something as simple as a skin is a horrendous design choice and is EXACTLY what they said they didn’t want.

They should at least lower the token requirements if they plan to keep this dungeon buff and reward nerf.

Charge back guide anyone ?

Pandemonium.6453:

They should at least lower the token requirements if they plan to keep this dungeon buff and reward nerf.

Charge back guide anyone ?

Putting in a refund ticket within 2 weeks if the game is still in its current state. Will be playing Borderlands 2 while I wait.

Germs.4125:

GonzoNeo.4965:

No you dont have to farm dungeons, you can have the exotic max stats with Crafting, buying in AH, Karma, Mystic Forge, the Dungeons are mean to get rare skins, i alredy have 2 set by crafting.

I love how people who tell that CoF was the unique fun dungeon, no it isnt you think that is fun because is the only dungeon that you can farm fast, isnt fun, simple is easy and the people want easy things, if now CoF last 1 hour and Ascalonan Tombs last 15 minutes, AT woul be the favourite dungeon of people -_-.

Is true that they need improve the dungeon reward, but is funny how people want easy 20 minute dungeon run when is supossed to be the most diffcult thing to parties.

At 20 min clears of CoF it would take roughly 24 hours of running it to get the set that as you yourself just stated is the exact same stat-wise as the crafted gear. If this is the only reward from the dungeon then it should be a quick and painless run especially since it is already going to take so many hours for just a look. Making it a nightmare for the TOTAL player base to get something as simple as a skin is a horrendous design choice and is EXACTLY what they said they didn’t want.

24 hours ideally. But in reality it’s actually quite a bit more time than that. Because you have to spend quite a bit oftime with the event to actually unlock the place.

30-40 hours in reality, assuming the dungeon doesn’t bug out in various ways and your party gets put into the same instance every time which further extends the amount of time per run.

Pandemonium.6453:

Charge back guide anyone ?

I would love to know how to do this. I figured I would stick it out though the terrible security and the fact that a large industry like this didn’t have a call center or the ability to roll back a character. I figured I would stick though all the world bugs preventing me from completing the map which haven’t been fixed weeks after first being posted. I just cannot stick though this anymore after their very clear message in dungeon tuning. PVP is the only thing left of value to me in this game but that alone can’t hold my interest long enough to say it was worth the money. Sure it fun when getting the kills needed for the monthly, but I purchased this game to explore the world and dungeon it up with my friends, both of which are becoming increasingly harder to do with every server hotfix patch.

Just completed COF Exp – I don’t know if this has been tested before being pushed live because quite honestly it is the most buggy horrible experience that I have come across in this game – and that’s saying something.

So yeah, 1380 for a full set in a high difficulty which you will have to farm hours and hours is better than having a method to acquire the set you like. One thing is difficulty, the other one is transforming GW2 in a WoW dungeon farming fest.

overdramatization everywhere.

They nerfed your easy farm now your mad and you cry… there are other easy farm.

and yes it take hours of investment to get a full set from a dungeon its a prestige item.

If you wanna look mediocre forever with your little crafted exotique go ahead.

I will have style in my arah armor.

Atm its quite buggy well the magma part the rest work fine and isnt too hard you just cant do it with blue lvl 70 item anymore… wich make sense.

I hope, they only forgot change type of mobs spawned at Magg when he planted bomb. It’s logic, 20+ Silver mobs at 90% ? Yes, it’s a bit stupid :P We make it only with “ress train chain” tactic but it’s very lucky to succes.

Pls look at this and fix it

This is what Anet rushes to fix? A fun, quick dungeon that actually felt rewarding. I’m just baffled by Anet’s approach to dungeons, and their approach to the entire endgame in general. They are starting to feel less like a game developer and more like the fun police.

Lol at all the bad players that could only farm the one easy dungeon path everyone else farmed and now have to actually play good to get through, but cannot do so because they’re bad players not used to any challenging gameplay.