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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

LVL 30 Fractal done with 15-25 agony resistance in group

Anyways rewards are complete kitten – our group got only 2 non-infused rings, no infused rings, no weapon skins. We were expecting to get infused rings or weapon skins with higher chance or maybe smth even better.

Can anyone from Arenanet side make any comments on that?

Thank you

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Posted by: chesney.4398

chesney.4398

well my brother got an infused ring at lvl 24 so maybe you guys are just unlucky

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Posted by: soulive.2083

soulive.2083

Nice incentive to progress… lvl 10 lewt at lvl 30+ daily. A guide on how to not make pve content -_-

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Posted by: Ethos.4987

Ethos.4987

Friend of me is on lvl 11, hasn’t got a signle vial of essence (so he can’t make backpiece) and hasn’t got the ascended ring there.

I understand complains about this but at least you are already on lvl 30 and have between 15 and 25 on every person already. If you gonna proceed to 40 there will be new complains if you don’t have stuff there? And if they put stuff at 50 but it’s actually really impossible to get there… there would also be complains.

I think you can safely say you have completed fractals… for now. And should grind out maybe easier levels untill you get the RNG luck to complete your stuff up to the current max of +30 agony resist. Not saying this is optimal or how I want to see it. Just stating how I believe it works now and how much content there really is for now in Fractals.

Yes there is endless more lvl’s, but I don’t think the rewards really increase above lvl 20. For now…

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Posted by: Iehova.9518

Iehova.9518

So how hard does agony hit with your resist levels?

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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

Agony at lvl30 is devastating even with 25 AR. Basically if you got hit by anything boss does you are done.

IMHO, some trash fights might be even harder than boss fights – dredge fractal lvl27-29 gave us a blast

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Posted by: drkn.3429

drkn.3429

Doing it is not about progress or rewards. If there was no difficulty progress or new items as rewards, people would still do fractals. BUT. Since people would still do it, and do it continuously even for the 20slot bags, ANet added some additional incentive for those who find it enough.

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Posted by: Iehova.9518

Iehova.9518

Agony at lvl30 is devastating even with 25 AR. Basically if you got hit by anything boss does you are done.

IMHO, some trash fights might be even harder than boss fights – dredge fractal lvl27-29 gave us a blast

So basically you hit the brick wall. My incentive to progress beyond 11 is dropping fast.

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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

Currently there is no incentive to progress past lvl20 – you can get all the best loot from lvl 20 daily chest. Fractal difficulty increases exponentially past 20, some fights are pretty tough and fractals take much more time to complete – that definitely does not compensate +1token reward.

Lvl 30 daily chest either is bugged or… whatever

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Posted by: Iehova.9518

Iehova.9518

you can get all the best loot from lvl 20 daily chest.

Which is? Infused pink rings?

Also, how much does AR reduce agony damage?

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Posted by: flagg.6073

flagg.6073

The problem we have here is that the proverbial carrot simply doesn’t exist. Anet went to all this trouble to make this amazing new dungeon and in their haste to get it released forgot a key component: Rewards.

A month or so ago, an anet representative posted that their dungeon loot was “dismal.” I’m sorry, but fractals drop the most generic rares/exotics really doesn’t change the fact that the loot is still kitten. Halloween, a once a year event, came loaded with all kinds of shiny little knick-knacks so it’s clear you have the capability.

We put in a lot of time and effort to defeat difficulty scale 30 and, as much fun as the journey was, it was depressing to find we had nothing tangible to mark our milestone. Not too mention, our incentive to delve deeper has been hindered because what’s the point? Give me a unique piece of armor, a title, a kittening achievement. Something. Anything.

Flagg – [CRNG]
Asura Warrior
Stormbluff Isle

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Posted by: drkn.3429

drkn.3429

forgot a key component: Rewards.

Having fun with guildies is the key component, rewards come second.

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Posted by: Tres.5427

Tres.5427

If you’re just there for reward stop at 10/20. If you are interested in testing yourself and your group further go further? Why’s everything have to have a carrot? Personally our group is going to push till we can’t pass trash and then be content with ourselves and fractals.

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Posted by: Patrikan Habaton.2548

Patrikan Habaton.2548

just be happy you got two rings, we did lvl 30 and got nothing no one of us had a ring or somthing so you had better loot table:)

first scale 81 fractals

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Posted by: Shadowlancer.7102

Shadowlancer.7102

@ Skady.5916

Ascendant gear, go back to level 20 – level 25. Just repeat them over and over till you get infused.

In respect of my group leader’s wishes, I am editing this post to be more vague than what I was posting.

It is possible to get to level 57 in FotM.

The group make up is: Engineer, Mesmer, Guardian, Warrior, and Thief.

This includes alot of items, food, and gem shop items. Multiple gear sets.

I am not allowed to discuss any of the Traits, Specs, or Abilities or tactics used to get this far.

I am allowed to give hints on this matter: Team Work, Down State, and Buffs.

I wish you luck on this quest and dedication on getting this far.

(edited by Shadowlancer.7102)

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Posted by: Pinch.4273

Pinch.4273

This includes alot of items, food, and gem shop items. Multiple gear sets.

If you say you res orb on Jade Maw, I will not be impressed

(edited by Pinch.4273)

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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

The thread is about bugged daily reward chest, not about how far you can get into the fractals. Currently lvl 30 and lvl40 daily chests do not reward infused rings \ weapons skins – only non-infused rings, which can as well be obtained from lvl10 chest. This is obviously a bug and needs to be addressed. Ive submitted a ticket and received only automatic mindless response, thats why we came to the forums and trying to bring this to arenanet attention.

offtopic. get a ranger in your group and you dont have to waste your gems on revive orbs lvl100 fractals is possible, the problem is that rewards are worse than on lvl20

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

@ Skady.5916

Ascendant gear, go back to level 20 – level 25. Just repeat them over and over till you get infused.

In respect of my group leader’s wishes, I am editing this post to be more vague than what I was posting.

It is possible to get to level 57 in FotM.

The group make up is: Engineer, Mesmer, Guardian, Warrior, and Thief.

This includes alot of items, food, and gem shop items. Multiple gear sets.

I am not allowed to discuss any of the Traits, Specs, or Abilities or tactics used to get this far.

I am allowed to give hints on this matter: Team Work, Down State, and Buffs.

I wish you luck on this quest and dedication on getting this far.

Are you a slave or something? “I am not allowed to discuss any of the Traits, Specs, or Abilities or tactics used to get this far.” Wake up its a video game not CAI documents… pathetic.

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Congrat’s on hitting 30. Good to see someone’s getting ahead in the dungeon. I was thinking Anet should have added an additional level per day.This way it would taken a month to do 30 levels. Keeping the game from “fracturing” the players as much as it has. As someone who’s hit 30, would you have been ok with doing a level per day? Just curious…

[AwM] of Jade Quarry.

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Posted by: Darthdevil.9015

Darthdevil.9015

@ Skady.5916

Ascendant gear, go back to level 20 – level 25. Just repeat them over and over till you get infused.

In respect of my group leader’s wishes, I am editing this post to be more vague than what I was posting.

It is possible to get to level 57 in FotM.

The group make up is: Engineer, Mesmer, Guardian, Warrior, and Thief.

This includes alot of items, food, and gem shop items. Multiple gear sets.

I am not allowed to discuss any of the Traits, Specs, or Abilities or tactics used to get this far.

I am allowed to give hints on this matter: Team Work, Down State, and Buffs.

I wish you luck on this quest and dedication on getting this far.

Well , whats the sense of lvl 57 ? Precursors everywhere ?

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Posted by: Cinaed.2649

Cinaed.2649

I’m not allowed to discuss = “I’m b s ing you guys.”

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Posted by: Pinch.4273

Pinch.4273

Currently lvl 30 and lvl40 daily chests do not reward infused rings \ weapons skins – only non-infused rings, which can as well be obtained from lvl10 chest.

I’ve received two infused rings from 30 dailies.

offtopic. get a ranger in your group

Regarding Fractals, I hope you know how silly of a request that is for groups of players who play amongst themselves.

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Posted by: Dead.7385

Dead.7385

I am allowed to give hints on this matter: Team Work, Down State, and Buffs.

So the next hint is going to be use those 10 buttons on your hotbar right?

Seriously, you might as well just said that.

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Posted by: Tulisin.6945

Tulisin.6945

I’m not allowed to discuss = “I’m b s ing you guys.”

GW2-flavored copypasta commencing:

What the kitten did you just kittening say about me, you little kitten? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Fractal Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the Swamp Fractal, and I have over 300 confirmed fractals. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top fractal runner in the entire fractal running guild. You are nothing to me but just another fractal. I will wipe you the kitten out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my kittening words. You think you can get away with saying that kitten to me over the Internet? Think again, kitten. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of thieves across Tyria and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, grub. The storm that wipes out the pathetikittentle thing you call your fractal. You’re kittening downed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can down you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Black Lion Trading Company and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable kitten off the face of Tyria, you little kitten. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your kittening tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you godkitten kitten. I will kitten fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re kittening downed, kiddo.

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Posted by: Kellie.3687

Kellie.3687

To be fair to the guy, there use to be a lot of guilds that ran with NDA on strats, don’t see many of them around any more, as every thing is all on google. However it is a little odd that he did post at all.

Anyhow on topic, it is rather odd how the rewards are working at the moment, but then again it has always been the intention of AN that you are challenging your self more so than anything else, I imagine in the future they will add score boards so you can see who is the top fractal team at some point, much like Guildwars 1.

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Posted by: havoc.8569

havoc.8569

So find someone who’s an aggro magnet and then have them down-state tank.

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Posted by: Veltoss.9135

Veltoss.9135

I imagine when they say they’re adding more ascended items that they will also be adding more to the Fractals themselves, you can’t expect them to have new rewards for every few levels of fractals pop up, and you also can’t expect the reward at level 30 to be too crazy awesome because someday the majority of players will be level 30+. It’s safe to assume that more ascended gear will become available at higher levels and that will be included in an upcoming patch.

Blackgate

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Posted by: Shadowlancer.7102

Shadowlancer.7102

@ Kellie.3687

Thank you. I was posting the strat earlier on but was told to change it, so even though I vaguely put it in an updated post, I still left alot of “Hints” within the post and that “Hint” area. I do wish everyone the best of luck they try to get that far.

Also I am sorry, I did post earlier on the same post, of confirming the chest past level 30 being bugged giving less rewards. I was just rushing to edit and forgot, sorry about that folks.

Edit: To confirm there are no more Ascendant rewards other than the “Rings” and “Back Piece”. The Devs already said in the future that they will include more Ascendant items, in future patches. This should clear up any confusion.

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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

lvl50+ Jade Maw cannot be done legitimately with current agony resistance. After Jade does his aoe agony thingy all party members are dead-dead with no exceptions – its a gear check mechanics . If you claiming you beat Jade 50+ you either used revive orbs or ranger pet rez, both methods are obviously bugs and should be addressed within the future patches

The purpose of this thread, anyways, is to bring to Arenanet attention the fact that currently lvl30 and lvl40 daily rewards are worse than lvl20 rewards. Progressing past lvl20 makes little to no sense – leveling an alt to fractal lvl20 sounds like a better idea

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Posted by: Calae.1738

Calae.1738

How do you propose a system that rewards you more exponentially? Do the chests drop 50 exotic items at difficulty scale 100?

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Posted by: offence.4726

offence.4726

Anet will have to tone down the whole difficulty thing , everybody is running pugs therefore no pug can achieve a +25 +30 diff just my 2c i don’t see it. With the obvious leavers , disconnects , crashes , lag even if everything is fixed. They should just add the tier to the vendor to be bought for tokens in the long run. It’s still a casual game who is gonna grind difficulty 50 ?

play hard , go pro.

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Posted by: Zid.4196

Zid.4196

Revive orbs are not bugs. They are part of the PvE game at the moment. I am glad they don’t work in WvW.

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Posted by: Hobocop.1508

Hobocop.1508

I’m confused. Is there even any real tangible need to beat levels 50+ if you don’t gain anything from doing so? It’s an endless dungeon, there’s only so much they can do to reward players who get so far before it starts getting truly ridiculous. I’d think that going up to level 50 just to say that you can would be it’s own reward.

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Posted by: Ghostly.4162

Ghostly.4162

I wanna see this screenshot of you at lvl 57+ I’m not doubting that it’s not possible to be 57+ given time frames and such, I’m saying that it’s highly improbable for someone to be 57+ atm.

And as for “is it possible”… of course it’s possible… the only true agony resist check is on maw and that can be exploited in numerous ways. Every other boss is easy to avoid agony or would simply be skipped (shaman at 40+)

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Posted by: Iri.7095

Iri.7095

My group got 3 infused rings on 10 .. you just have bad luck

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Posted by: Cinaed.2649

Cinaed.2649

Got a ring at lv12. There’s no big secret. The agony attacks are almost all dodgeable. If that’s Shadowlancer’s hush hush then it’s a lol one.